Ageism.

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It's awful, on Mumsnet. Do these posters think they will never be 60?

I have to admit that I'm not too pleased about it. But turning 60 does not change my views on anything at all. I think the same things as I did when I was 30 Why do the younger generation hate us so much?

I'm on their side.

We've already a thread on this!
Whilst I agree ageism is rife on here, starting another thread on it will only add fuel to the fire; the ageists on here will think you are losing it and use it as another stick to beat us with!
But those in London will soon shut the fuck up when they get their over 60s oystercard and realise the freedom it gives!

^We've already a thread on this!
Whilst I agree ageism is rife on here, starting another thread on it will only add fuel to the fire; the ageists on here will think you are losing it and use it as another stick to beat us with!
But those in London will soon shut the fuck up when they get their over 60s oystercard and realise the freedom it gives!^

Sorry wasn't quite sure of how to respond

I hate that people in their 30s think I know NOTHING.

I suppose it is just bad stereotyping. My mum is in her 60s and I really have to guide her on a lot of things, but I know not all 60 year olds are like that.

Ps. They hate us because apparently;

• We all live in 7-bedroomed houses and won't give them up, therefore contibuting to the housing crisis
• We all read the Faily Dail. And believe everything we read
• We all voted for Brexit
• We don't go to the supermarket in our nightwear
• We didn't validate tantrum-throwing toddler's feelings while in the middle of the supermarket, we told them to just shut up. Which is very traumatising. Apparently
• We take too long at a checkout/bank teller window. God forbid we exchange pleasantries with the person we interact with rather than just continuing the conversation we are having on our mobile telephones and ignoring them
• We don't wallk down the road reading our phones or sharing our conversations with the entire street. Ditto for public transport. I mean, what is wrong with us??
• We don't abuse emergency services or hospital staff. We are grateful
• We can add and subtract in our heads and do long division on paper

Read through any thread and you'll find any number of other reasons they hate us!
But theyare daft enough to think that they won't be like every other old person when they are old!

In times of economic uncertainty there are scapegoats.
Apart from immigrants and Jews, older people ate scapegoated due to ;
Brexit
Triple lock pensions
Having a better lifestyle
Hoarding wealth apparently
No longer working.
Boomers are resented for voting for Tory and Brexit whilst never experiencing true hardship in many eyes whilst both votes have plunged workers into economic hardship.

Fwiw I kbiw under 60s who voted for Tory and Brexit.

Are*

@VestibuleVirgin 😂😂😂😂 You've cheered me up after a very long shift.

This in spades. Plus we all have gold plated pensions, retire early (I wish!) and have huge carbon footprints, going on world cruises.

Social media seems to thrive on pitting groups of people against each other. I really hope that people will come to their senses and realise that this just worsens divides. But, yes, ageism is rife and horrible on MN at the moment, and totally unchecked.

VestibuleVirgin

OMG yes. You've laid that out very nicely. And accurately.
It should be printed out and passed around and all should take note.

In an ideal world. . .

Glad to be of help, especially for a 'shiftie'!
I went on a weekend 'taster' cruise. I couldn't get off the ugly monstrosity quick enough!
Go spend your gold-plated, triple-locked, obscenely fat pension as soon as you wake up!
Sleep well

Isn’t this just a long ageist rant?

Ageism has been rife on here for years.

As you say, there do seem to be idiots (an increasing number of them it seems) who think they will never grow older and never age, unlike us fruit loops who have done just that.

I'm almost 58, so slotting into the age demographic you mention. I know I do seem ancient to my daughters but they don't put me down because of it.

Older doesn't mean stupid or thick.

Boomers are resented for voting for Tory and Brexit whilst never experiencing true hardship in many eyes whilst both votes have plunged workers into economic hardship

You must be bloody joking. I lived the first 15 years of my life in a house with no bathroom or toilet. If I wanted a poo or a pee I would have to walk up the street to the 'midden' or the toilet block that served the whole street, and wake my dad up to come with me. If it was just a pee I could do it in a bucket that we kept behind the front door for just pees. Which my dad would have to go empty early morning. But a poo as a young child I'd have to have a parent or an older sibling with me up the street to the midden. I mean, do you get it? In the middle of winter if you want a poo you have to get all dressed up warm and wake somebody up to come with you. Get dressed up against the weather, and walk up to the toilets. Have your poo. And then get back into bed.

You have absolutely no idea, do you?

Nice try, but no.
It's a tongue-in-cheek response to OP, based on the rants of previous ageist posters and life.
Another to add to the lisy - we don't explain every nuance of written conversation, therefore must be ranting
JfC

I'd be very worried if I thought my kids were going to put me down for being old!!
For the benefit of those 'young' folk (and I choose not to assume every young person) who may not understand, or wilfully choses not to, that was a joke

We don't wallk down the road reading our phones or sharing our conversations with the entire street. Ditto for public transport. I mean, what is wrong with us??

We don't abuse emergency services or hospital staff. We are grateful

What ageist rants are these based on? I don’t think I’ve seen younger generations complain that older people don’t use their phones when walking, or don’t abuse hospital staff enough or are too grateful?

You must be bloody joking. I lived the first 15 years of my life in a house with no bathroom or toilet. If I wanted a poo or a pee I would have to walk up the street to the 'midden' or the toilet block that served the whole street, and wake my dad up to come with me. If it was just a pee I could do it in a bucket that we kept behind the front door for just pees. Which my dad would have to go empty early morning. But a poo as a young child I'd have to have a parent or an older sibling with me up the street to the midden. I mean, do you get it? In the middle of winter if you want a poo you have to get all dressed up warm and wake somebody up to come with you. Get dressed up against the weather, and walk up to the toilets. Have your poo. And then get back into bed

I see no current teenager has addressed that. I would be unthinkable nowadays.
Perfectly normal in the 50s/60s/70s

You are desperate to get a bite aren't you?
What part of tongue-in-cheek don't you understand?
Why can you not see that there may have been some exaggeration for comedic effect?
Clearly many posters saw it that way, but sadly you have chosen not to and are getting yourself into a bit of a tizzy.
Would you like me to validate those feelings for you?

Takes just a few posts for it to descend into nastiness. Kinda sums it up really.

Strange, I don’t feel in a tizzy, I just see your posts as very much a part of the problem.

Tell your fingers that
Goodnight

Well that's stereotyping isn't it?

I didn't vote for Brexit and only know of a few people my age that did. I've never voted Tory even though it might benefit me personally from a financial perspective.

I don't have a pension yet, I'm still working as are many 60 year olds.

Having a better lifestyle is probably true of many older people but certainly not all and I sympathise with that, but also from the sound of it there is ageism even among those who seem to have a nice lifestyle from their posts, so I don't think it's just that. I think it's one of the few groups that it's okay to scapegoat. No-one abuses you for being horrible about old people like they would against gay people or trans people or people of another ethnic group or other groups that have been scapegoated in the past.

I'm still working. I've also struggled through the early 80s poor job prospects, got in negative equity when interest rates soared and ended up paying for a mortgage on a flat that was worth much less than I paid for it for years, and will be working until late 60s so not that different from younger people. I'm not playing the sympathy card and I do have a lot of sympathy for those young people who are starting out now but I do think that are lot of the ageism comes from people in their 30s and 40s so most @haven't experienced the worst of the financial problems.

Yes, ageism is bad on here. But I see it towards the younger generation.

They’re seen as lazy, entitled, stupid for having views differing to the norm. Living off handouts from parents because they should just ‘work harder’ rather than realising that financially it’s impossible to buy a secure home.