Ageism.

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It's awful, on Mumsnet. Do these posters think they will never be 60?

I have to admit that I'm not too pleased about it. But turning 60 does not change my views on anything at all. I think the same things as I did when I was 30 Why do the younger generation hate us so much?

I'm on their side.

I find the ageism is worse the other way round - older generations to younger ones - and that it’s much more “forgiven” when that way round too.

@VestibuleVirgin its because your post was ageist. God forbid someone wrote one in the same vain about your generation.

Vein, it's 'the same vein...'
My post was not ageist. You cannot understand the fact that we oldies can laugh at ourselves and take the piss out of life.
You need to get a grip

Not to mention that these old gits have a penchant for schooling everyone

I agree. I see just as much ageism from oder generations towards younger ones but that seems to be considered justified and more acceptable somehow.

Maybe some younger people forget they will become older one day but some older people also forget they were young.

After all, how often is a derisory, "How old are you? 15?" Or "How old are you? You sound very young," used as a response to a concern on here because a poster thinks their concern is trite? There are plenty of patronising comments directed towards people who are perceived to be in their teens/early 20s on here.

We all have to navigate growing up just as we all have to navigate getting old.

Yep, favourite pastime because there are plenty of opportunities.
But if you'd rather come across as uneducated, fill your boots

Oh no sooooo sorry for spelling a word ever so slightly wrong at 6am!

You weren’t laughing at yourself though, were you? It was at the expense of a different generation. Such crap and typical mumsnet ageism.

I think ageism is rife every where, not just on MN.
I find locally even the youngest of the children have absolutely no respect for any one older. They are verbally rude and antagonistic towards certainly older women. They are derisory of them. They are contemptuous.
They are learning this attitude from somewhere.
I think it's very much linked towards societies obsession with looking young, and praising and promoting youth culture and devaluing the experiences of older people. It really is seen as a crime to be old .It is our fault we are old, we have allowed it to happen to us. It will never happen to them.
Of course the natural reaction to this contempt is for older people to dislike the younger generation. I have to work very hard not to stereotype the younger generations. I have to remind myself people are individuals.
It's sad that there isn't more tolerance and respect between the generations.

Interestingly, i’ve had had a word with my mum to suggest she spends less time wasting her retirement sitting at home all day doomscrolling 😂

Your post had been up for less than 30 mins. Not an issue of ‘teenagers not wanting to address it’.

My mum always goes on about having no toilet when she was young. It’s not a big newsflash. She had no toilet when she was young, but lived a lot more comfortably later on. You can have both.

Genuinely curious, what ‘respect’ are you looking for?

You are so determined to be offended and incorrectly accuse me of nasty intent
Such a shame you have taken the name of a fabulous singer/entertainer and made it so nasty

I’m 61 and haven’t noticed any ageism personally. From threads I’ve seen recently there are plenty of over 50’s on here, and a fair few over 60’s.
I suppose the average age on here is 30’s so I appreciate I am a completely different generation, and probably seem ancient to a 30 year old, but I’m still a Mum and have all the usual problems life throws at us.
Most of the time I have no idea how old someone is on here.

’perfectly Normal’, all my family on Mum and Dad side are from working class backgrounds, I don’t know anybody who experienced that.

I should add if we are discussing Britain here.

Well I'm probably feeling a bit raw after my experience yesterday but I expect not to to be sworn at when I ask the children to leave my hedge alone. I expect not to be given cheek and jeered at when I ask them to clear up the mess they have left in the street right outside my house.
That type of respect.

I think this is where you live as I don’t notice it. My DC are teenagers and they don’t notice anyone over 19 probably let alone be rude to them!

Well tbh I think not noticing any one over the age of 19 is very sad. In other words no one older than them is worthy of notice. It is a form of contempt.

A lot of bizarre beliefs about older women on Mumsnet.

I am 53 and I have never voted Tories and never will, nor was I a supporter of Brexit. I have always voted Labour and been a campaigner for animal rights, social justice and women's rights.

The pensioners in my street have Labour signs and posters in their gardens/windows.

I am working and will continue to do so until retirement age. I did not get on the housing ladder until I was almost 40 and I am the only bread winner and I certainly don't have a wealthy lifestyle.

I think it is so daft to turn on older women. I do believe that ageism at work is even more of an issue for women, so instead we should show solidarity to each other. Because all these young women will have a rude awakening when they get to 50 and employers start to ignore them or pass them over for promotion/try to get rid of them for a cheaper employee.

Just like it is silly to blame the disabled and immigrants for everything, it I equally repulsive to think it is OK to pretend all older people act and vote the same way and stereotype people based on their age.

Just ignorance really and also something that some part of the media has fuelled: the Guardian is one good example of a newspaper that has happily published ageist content.

That’s not a generational thing though is it. There will be dickhead deliquent kids every year. They’d tell someone in their 30s to fuck off as well.

My mum has complained several times about ‘respect’ when kids don’t get up for her on the bus.

I am mid 40s and I have a similar problem as the kids are playing tennis outside my house and keeping bashing the balls into my car but they don’t swear at me when I tell them to be careful, it is annoying but that is because my two are teenagers and find it annoying too, despite having done the same 3-5 years ago.

Aah, yours too 😂

Are you being serious? Your intent was obvious - just because you’re being called out for it you’re now trying to change it.

Whoosh

At 65 I find having had DD at 41 makes me feel less old in outlook than my contemporaries who are grandparents.

I am still working, am a confident driver, am IT literate, am not a technophobe, didn't vote for Brexit, don't vote Tory, won't have a fat public service pension to look forward to and am a parent to a child who has inherited an excellent work ethic as have her friends.