To think droves of teachers will make the decision by husband made today- to leave

[Peakyshelby]

Well after 6 years of teaching my husband has broken down, gone to the doctors, been signed off and says he is done.

he has done 3 years in 2 schools and then done supply for 3 years. There is too much to list but the highlights have been

been told to go and fuck himself and other insults thrown at him by kids with hardly any consequences from parents and schools

having stuff chucked at him

having to appear as a witness in court when a parent beat up his own child at home time in the playground

having parents create a smear group on WhatsApp against him and 2 other newly qualified teachers because the parents said there little darlings behaviour must be down to inexperienced teachers not being able to handle them.

having parents laugh and him and tell him he is picking on their little darlings by trying to sanction them.

have children laughing at him and saying my mum and dad don’t care what I do

hardly any support from above.

There is too much more to write but today he had a 10 year old child walk up to him and pour a water bottle over his head.

he is done. He qualified with a group of 10 others and 8 of them have since quit. 2 did not get through there NQT year.

He says the system is broken

I hope your DH has time to heal and recover, and that he can then find something that he enjoys.

I was on the verge of leaving teaching when I found my current school. I've been there for 10 years. The school really can make a big difference.

That being said, it's a lot of work for not great money. I think about quitting at least once a year.

It's the right decision 💐

He'll get another job no problem, when he's ready.

Or there are just far too many poorly parented nightmare children

What the hell is going on with these parents though? They were the golden generation under a Blair government weren't they, 30 odd years ago?? What went wrong with their upbringing to make them such bad parents?

I think the answer is "excess". Children of the Blair era are the analogue childhood, digital adolescence/adulthood. They grew up playing outside, on bikes, kicking a ball around, playing with manual toys, 4 channels on the TV and shell suits. The 80s and early 90s were still pretty basic times. As they matured technology took over, the internet exploded, and free credit was everywhere. They had a battered old Fiesta as their first car, then within a few years on a basic wage you could be in a new Audi. They had kids, who are now secondary age. A lot has happened since late 00's. Smartphones being the biggest change, and all the apps they offer made them into Zombies. Social Media took off, creating the look at me generation - Insta, Snapchat, good old facebook. Connectivity multiplied - whatsapp groups of parents pouring over how their kid was victimised at school, asking AIBU on here, leading to teachers being questioned and how dare they do that to my little darling. Naturally all this "excess" filtered down to the brats they raised, full of entitlement and confidence, dripping in designer gear, talking like roadmen.

And the comments about the behaviour being his fault. Weak headteachers and senior staff who don't support teachers end up with this sort of behaviour in their schools.

I'd say that some parenting is broken and some schools are unable to cope. But it's not like that everywhere.

My daughter has been teaching for almost two years and loves it. There have been a few issues but on the whole pupil behaviour is generally good.

The school seems to be very well managed, and the senior leadership team is supportive and appreciative of its staff.

This is not a selective girls grammar. It's a comprehensive.

This.

I left 18 months ago to move to Probation. It still public sector so we’re still over worked and underpaid but it’s so much better and he would have a lot of transferable skills. Plus if the people on probation are rude, aggressive or non compliant you can send them back to court or prison!

I'm so sorry for your husband, makes me so sad and angry to read this. I left teaching 10 years ago and have never looked back. It was so awful and I know it's even worse now. Really hope your husband recovers and can find something else.

What the hell is going on with these parents though? They were the golden generation under a Blair government weren't they, 30 odd years ago?? What went wrong with their upbringing to make them such bad parents?

^

Why are you blaming their upbringing??!

Blame them instead!

I managed to last 10 years. The bullying came from SLT.

Yes. I did the same. Noone understands the reality unless youve been there

Its so sad

It is absolutely disgusting how some parents think it is not their responsibility to discipline their children anymore, some parents could do with some discipline themselves.
On my travels I see many questionable youths.... I would be ashamed of my child if they spoke to anyone in this manner, it must be so disheartening for your husband.
The world is an unruly place unfortunately and it's only going to get worse

Is he ok you sharing all that detail oh the Internet?

N9one gowa into teaching thinking its not going to be hard... nobody. Plus you so your training in a school.

The reality is horrendous 💔

On another thread today, I read that teachers are the most whinging profession. Are teachers whinging or is it now almost untenable?
Is it that some people aren’t suited to teaching in some state schools?

YANBU, but Labour and their VAT on private school fees will sort it all out. Or so they claim.

My DD school building is literally shut down due to safety concerns. Local council are arguing with the school as to who should foot the bill. Teachers have been working tirelessly to make temporary classrooms in a ten day turn around and have found classrooms offsite in other schools for other year groups (working over weekends to move equipment from sites to not affect pupil to teacher ratios). After seeing how the local authority and the DofE have treated them (and how some students & their parents are treating them) I dunno how they are working as they are. Ofsted have just deemed them inadequate and have declared they must become an academy. No trust wants to buy a broken building. It leaves everyone in limbo. Behaviour and attendance is shocking, parents are fuming but the teachers continue to try to educate our kids. The local council continue to do sweet FA.

No advice, but I’m really sorry. Teachers should be respected and admired, I certainly wouldn’t want to do it.
Teachers at the local school are certainly not treated this way.

I come from the generation where most of us would have been smacked bloody hard if we’d sworn at a teacher.

Please ignore this ignorant comment.

your husband survived 6 years, that is well above average. Th fault is not his it is the management that doesn't support him, and impose a proper behaviour policy in their schools

Give him my sympathy and best wishes - he will find something far easier, more interesting and better paid

This is a random question maybe but when I was at secondary school (1990-1995), the school wasn't responsible for my attendance I don't think. (Although the mystery of truant officers lurking in the local towns was there).

If I bunked off, I took a note in the next day. If I misbehaved (just the once!), my dad got a phone call at work, via his secretary, and I was collected from school. The shame! There was no way the school would babysit me until the end of the day.

Now, it seems, parents can bark 'they're your problem, you sort them out' and the school has to manage the child until hometime.

Maybe I'm misremembering but I'm sure there was a change somewhere. Now, I'm all for all children having an education, but the kids who didn't want to be there were their parents' problem, not the school's. I've looked at it and maybe the 1996 Education Act? Or was it around safeguarding?

Imagine them working minimum wage in a care home looking after peoples vulnerable elderly parents.

Doesn't bear thinking about.

Between AI and automation, there's going to be no jobs for such people and they'll just keep on having children who'll be likewise disastrously raised, that's if they even survive the standard of parenting these people will practice. At least in times gone by badly behaved people could be put to work on farms and in factories which tired them out. At this rate it's not just going to be the ageing population which will put a strain on the welfare state.

My DS is in reception year in a mixed area and I am shocked by the sheer number of parents who are openly criminals. Who have absolutely pots of money while having typical low wage jobs. It’s part of the degradation of wider society. They are brazen and in 10 years it’ll be their kids spitting at their teachers in the local secondary and they won’t give a shit. I’m working towards a move to private.