To think droves of teachers will make the decision by husband made today- to leave

[Peakyshelby]

Well after 6 years of teaching my husband has broken down, gone to the doctors, been signed off and says he is done.

he has done 3 years in 2 schools and then done supply for 3 years. There is too much to list but the highlights have been

been told to go and fuck himself and other insults thrown at him by kids with hardly any consequences from parents and schools

having stuff chucked at him

having to appear as a witness in court when a parent beat up his own child at home time in the playground

having parents create a smear group on WhatsApp against him and 2 other newly qualified teachers because the parents said there little darlings behaviour must be down to inexperienced teachers not being able to handle them.

having parents laugh and him and tell him he is picking on their little darlings by trying to sanction them.

have children laughing at him and saying my mum and dad don’t care what I do

hardly any support from above.

There is too much more to write but today he had a 10 year old child walk up to him and pour a water bottle over his head.

he is done. He qualified with a group of 10 others and 8 of them have since quit. 2 did not get through there NQT year.

He says the system is broken

You can't do that nowadays. You have to run it past 'management', and send a letter home for parental consent. Do you risk sending the letter home with child or post it? The parent needs to be available to collect the child at the end of detention - they may refuse! The school would be in trouble if child normally uses school transport and sets off home alone. And it all takes too long to put in place. Meanwhile the child may offend again. I used to regularly give up half my lunch hour for pupils as a punishment or to catch up on missing work as I had no other means of discipline. I don't think that sanction is available in a lot of schools as head teachers have shortened the lunch hour to prevent pupils causing trouble in town centres and shops.

@Grammarnut i have a stupid question.

If a teacher has a salary of 35k a year, if you are only paid for contact hours - pro rata wouldn’t this mean the salary is actually a lot higher? More that the government could say your salary is 60k but it’s a lot lower? Like how they advertise teaching assistant jobs? If teachers aren’t paid for their holidays?

Ive always wondered if pointing this out could screw teachers over in the future if the government work this out as a way of making teaching look better?

Teachers are contracted to work 195 days per, its not pro rata because its not a full year contract.

If only we could down tools once we hit 1265 hrs! My summer break could start around the Easter holidays

Teaching is a joke. You can literally be bullied by pupils with false complaints. Bullies by leadership by false statements. Be assaulted. Mentally broken. And still called lazy!

Nurses and teachers are leaving in droves. It's an appalling state of affairs that things have gotten so bad.

The only way they could really do this is by advertising the hourly rate as £27.67, which they couldn't actually do because then they'd have to pay by the hour, which they don't. £27.67ph is not very high in comparison to other qualified professionals.

I’ve been teaching 12 years and I recognise everything your husband has experienced. Senior leadership not supporting us on behaviour and with parents who dont believe their children could possibly be in the wrong are my main stressors. Unfortunately this has at times made me very nearly quit. I feel as a grown adult you are not believed or seen as important enough to be taken care of and this grinds you down over the years.

If the advertised rate per hour was £27.26p, it would still be £10 per hour more than a junior doctor. And a teacher getting a decision wrong is unlikely to kill anyone. (And yes, of course I know the paid hours are not the hours actually worked, in either profession).

Regardless, it is not great rewards for years of study and training. However, we employ engineers, fitters and technicians at about £17 -£20 per hour to look after equipment and systems that keep submariners safe from air poisoning at sea 600 ft underwater.

Let's talk about how we value skills in the modern world.

And how do those engineers, fitters and technicians get those skills?

But you aren’t paid over the holidays but your salary is divided by 12 into equal amounts isn’t that pro rata?

nope.

Some people won’t be happy unless teachers are on minimum wage with 4 weeks off a year.

And in both cases due to behaviour by "customers" (kids/parents and patients/family) and their bosses.

People need to learn that their actions have consequences. If you or your child attack a teacher, have fun educating your child yourself, or in the private sector. If you attack NHS staff, the same thing, have fun paying private medical fees, and getting medical insurance when the insurers know you have no recourse to use the NHS.

So true! I'd say 90% of the people I work with are liars. Management stick together to the point you think you're going crazy. It's absolutely toxic. I seriously want out.