To think droves of teachers will make the decision by husband made today- to leave

[Peakyshelby]

Well after 6 years of teaching my husband has broken down, gone to the doctors, been signed off and says he is done.

he has done 3 years in 2 schools and then done supply for 3 years. There is too much to list but the highlights have been

been told to go and fuck himself and other insults thrown at him by kids with hardly any consequences from parents and schools

having stuff chucked at him

having to appear as a witness in court when a parent beat up his own child at home time in the playground

having parents create a smear group on WhatsApp against him and 2 other newly qualified teachers because the parents said there little darlings behaviour must be down to inexperienced teachers not being able to handle them.

having parents laugh and him and tell him he is picking on their little darlings by trying to sanction them.

have children laughing at him and saying my mum and dad don’t care what I do

hardly any support from above.

There is too much more to write but today he had a 10 year old child walk up to him and pour a water bottle over his head.

he is done. He qualified with a group of 10 others and 8 of them have since quit. 2 did not get through there NQT year.

He says the system is broken

Vote Labour. Schools have been decimated over the past 14 years.

Yes, I'm 70s born and my children are secondary and uni age.

@Peakyshelby I don't blame your husband one bit.
It sounds horrendous to be a teacher- at least in State schools.
Private might be different[?] -

Schools where they can heavily select the students so they are bright, not aggressive, want to learn, and are capable of a bit of self discipline with invested parents.

Oh my god that is horrific. Your poor dh. He was so right to say no more. Should you be interested in a move, we are crying out for teachers in Ireland and after 20 years, I have never seen or heard anything like that (dh also a teacher so quite a few schools and many years experience between us). What you describe would be incredibly rare and simple wouldn't be accepted. Something is really wrong in UK schools going by threads on here..it's very sad and really wrong.

This is the consequence of a breakdown in values and a breakdown in masculinity in boys and young men.

WTF? You think this is the behaviour of boys who aren't masculine enough?

No.

This is young men who think they are gangsters. And it is girls, they are no better.

This is how some children behave in the area when they are at school too.
FYI spelling of the town name is incorrect. Middlesbrough.

That's horrible. I'm sorry it happened to you. It's terrifying think that men like that father are out there - and he's bringing up his son to be just like him. Kid should have been excluded for what he did, and the father prosecuted for being abusive towards you.

I'm ancient, so teachers were allowed (and encouraged) to beat us for real and imagined infractions. Alcoholic head of lower school, paedophile employed for over 25 years, several wife-beaters and much else.
Parents were very grateful for kids to get a place, I imagine few if any ever complained.
The teachers and the school fell off its pedestal when league tables came out and the effect of decades of complacency became apparent.
IMHO, OFSTED and DfE should have the opportunity to redesign the curriculum and syllabuses (Latin master will be spinning for not using syllabi) BUT the new structure should then be set in stone for no less than 25 years.
Too many parents had sub-standard educations themselves and seem to feel that they're getting revenge on their teachers by supporting bad behaviour.

THIS ⬆️🎯🎯🎯

Poor quality parenting.

Because the parents are feral shits themselves

These anecdotes are horrific. A growing underclass of feral cretins causing so much misery.

Tuition may be an option for your DH to pursue OP. The ex-deputy head of the local primary school tutors one of my DCs a couple of times a week. It’s £60 an hour. My little one is 6 and they do reading, phonics and writing together. She resigned from her old job (due to stress) and is busy with KS1 and KS2 tuition (the downside is working after school and weekends, but she also does more intense tuition during the holidays).

@Garibaldhead This is young men who think they are gangsters.

Yes, "gangster" behaviour is due to the absence of maculinity in young men. Being a tough guy gangster is not a masculine trait.

And it is girls, they are no better.

Let's not kid ourselves. It's mostly boys.

Is this for real??? over 300 posts saying how awful it is and it's all coming from poor parenting, Labour's only truly confirmed policy is to destroy the part of educational sector which is working, and solution is to vote Labour? who will magic up 6500 teachers to replace all those on this thread who exit?

I stand by what I have said. The secondary school system has been decimated over the past 14 years

let me politely disagree - girls loot CooP next to me on a regular basis, in their uniforms

Sorry to hear that. I hope your DH is alright.
The problem is lots of parents are far too permissive and refuse to discipline their DC.

and how exactly Labour will fix this parental gap? and make teaching safe and enjoyable profession?

They can't control their kids. How many posts on here about children assaulting there parents? Quite a few I have read.. back in the days when kids could look forward a thick ear, standards of behaviour were far better.
The softly softly approach to parenting hasn't worked so wherr do we go from here? Things will only get worse. We already have young kids carrying knives and their have been several murders perpetrated by teenagers over the last couple of years.
Suggestions on a postcard please

I had a comment removed a few years ago saying parents wanted private schools as they were filters - to keep out the troublemakers and the chair hurlers- but it's true! My nephews go to a private school in London and they love it.

Petty theft is one thing, but when it comes to violence, such as flipping tables, attacking teachers, and generally behaving like a monkey, that's mostly boys.

He says the system is broken

It’s not the school system, it’s society.

Is this for real??? over 300 posts saying how awful it is and it's all coming from poor parenting, Labour's only truly confirmed policy is to destroy the part of educational sector which is working, and solution is to vote Labour? who will magic up 6500 teachers to replace all those on this thread who exit?

Poor parenting doesn’t haopen in a bubble anymore than poor schools do. Crime has risen under the last 14 years of Tory government. Inequality and child poverty have risen under the Tories - as they always do. The Tories simply couldn’t give a shit about vast areas of the country. So yes, the solution is to vote Labour for a few decades to invest in those areas of the country which are on their knees and to bring about a change in those areas which eventually filter down to the young people.

No, it's really not.

I have seen children beating up parents.
Girl of nine snarling sulkily at her parents- the dad picked her up and she was boxing his ears....the parents looked afraid!

Parents are too soft with children- and the kids don't respect the parents.
Imagine being in fear of a sullen nine year old.. That beat her own dad while the mother wept.

Parents have unwittingly created monstrous behaviour by 'gentle' parenting.

I work visiting schools day in and day out in a large city in the North of the UK. I visit primary schools, secondary schools, sixth form colleges. I am not an inspector and schools don't "prepare" for my visits.

The majority of lessons I observe are reasonable. I don't see high level disruption in every lesson. Kids performing being disengaged by doodling, whispering, swinging on chairs, yes. The odd bit of backchat. Behaviour has probably marginally improved recently after a rocky patch post COVID. Secondary obv worse than primary or sixth form.

I don't recognise these feral children being described, not in my area.

I have been a children’s social worker for ten years and I wouldn’t be a teacher for any money.