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The difference between cancer life as a royal and as a "lesser mortal"

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sixtyandsomething · 16/06/2024 12:40

not to derail other threads..

I have nothing against the Princess of Wales, I am sure she is a lovely person and I wish her well. however, let's not pretend she is facing the same struggles as the rest of us.

I bet you £10 she hasn't had to deal with any of these! (feel free to add your own)

-40+ calls to DWP, often being left on hold for 2 hours or more
-many months delay in benefits being processed, leaving you without any income at all
-DWP advising you to "find a food bank"
-struggle up the hill on crutches to get a bus to chemo
-appointments delayed and cancelled, blood tests lost and repeated, regular system "crashes" leaving medical staff with no access to your notes.
-never seeing the same medical professionals twice.
-consultant appointments cancelled when you have already travelled several hours to the hospital
-telephone appointments you have to sit and wait by the phone for, for the whole day
-worry on crammed full bus when you are CEV
-getting off bus because it is too full
-getting of bus because you are vomiting
-sitting on the pavement for 3-4 hours after chemo in the dark and rain, because you are CEV and don't want to get back on a crammed bus in the rush hour
-commuters swearing at you because you move too slowly
-commuter kicking you out of the way because you move to slowly, and doing it with an air of indignation, like they feel seriously injured by having to touch something so disgusting with their foot
-minimum 18 hour wait in A and E before being admitted with infection - once it was 28 hours
-further many hour wait in ER before being admitted to wards.
-spending night on chair in corridor, after being admitted to a ward
-being asked to vacate chair in corridor so doctor can perform ECG on patient who is currently standing up with nowhere to sit
-being warned by hospital staff to sleep in your glasses so they are not stolen
-having to buy a constant stream of new clothes, and having to go to charity shops - on steroids? go up two sizes, no chemo? go down 3- surgery? get front opening everything, in a range of sizes.
-not being able have a clean the house, wash up, open the window even, without calling a friend to come and help.
-council refusing to empty your bins because you are not capable of moving them to the right place at the right time
-giving away your pets because you can't take care of them, or afford them
-being told the waiting list to see a physiotherapist is around a year

I could go on

I am so grateful for the treatment I have had, and I hope the Princess of Wales does well and recovers, but the two situations are not the same, even slightly, even if the disease is.

OP posts:
crumblingschools · 17/06/2024 18:25

@fiddlesticksohyeah money didn’t help Steve Jobs either.

Lisawho · 17/06/2024 18:26

diddl · 17/06/2024 17:59

She is in a better position than most people who don't have cancer, let alone those who do.

Not right now she isn't!

Of course she is. I'd swap her places and I'm in perfect health. I'd take a life of privilege, luxury, adoration and unparalleled opportunity for my kids over my own health without hesitation.

crumblingschools · 17/06/2024 18:33

@Lisawho you would willingly have cancer?

Apolloneuro · 17/06/2024 18:35

Lisawho · 17/06/2024 18:26

Of course she is. I'd swap her places and I'm in perfect health. I'd take a life of privilege, luxury, adoration and unparalleled opportunity for my kids over my own health without hesitation.

What a ludicrous statement. You seriously saying you’d swap money for cancer?! Do you think your child would be better off having a mother or a private education?

Have you had cancer? I think most people wouldn’t wish it on their worst enemy.

Lisawho · 17/06/2024 18:35

Why are you asking a question I have just answered?

GoodAfternoonGoodEveningAndGoodnight · 17/06/2024 18:35

Lisawho · 17/06/2024 18:26

Of course she is. I'd swap her places and I'm in perfect health. I'd take a life of privilege, luxury, adoration and unparalleled opportunity for my kids over my own health without hesitation.

You'd take on cancer over perfect health just for luxury and money?
Wow.

GoodAfternoonGoodEveningAndGoodnight · 17/06/2024 18:36

crumblingschools · 17/06/2024 18:33

@Lisawho you would willingly have cancer?

Unbelievable isn't it

Lisawho · 17/06/2024 18:36

Apolloneuro · 17/06/2024 18:35

What a ludicrous statement. You seriously saying you’d swap money for cancer?! Do you think your child would be better off having a mother or a private education?

Have you had cancer? I think most people wouldn’t wish it on their worst enemy.

Who are you to call me ludicrous? There are much worse things in life than having cancer, believe me.

Apolloneuro · 17/06/2024 18:36

Lisawho · 17/06/2024 18:35

Why are you asking a question I have just answered?

Your flippancy about this devastating illness is an insult to anyone who has had it.

GoodAfternoonGoodEveningAndGoodnight · 17/06/2024 18:37

Lisawho · 17/06/2024 18:36

Who are you to call me ludicrous? There are much worse things in life than having cancer, believe me.

Have you had it?

Lisawho · 17/06/2024 18:37

GoodAfternoonGoodEveningAndGoodnight · 17/06/2024 18:35

You'd take on cancer over perfect health just for luxury and money?
Wow.

People exclaiming 'wow' are just so tiresome.

Apolloneuro · 17/06/2024 18:38

Lisawho · 17/06/2024 18:36

Who are you to call me ludicrous? There are much worse things in life than having cancer, believe me.

You’re too disgusting to engage with further.

Be careful what you wish for.

crumblingschools · 17/06/2024 18:39

@Lisawho you would be happy to leave children without a mum, so they could have money?

Noangelbuthavingfun · 17/06/2024 18:39

sixtyandsomething · 16/06/2024 12:40

not to derail other threads..

I have nothing against the Princess of Wales, I am sure she is a lovely person and I wish her well. however, let's not pretend she is facing the same struggles as the rest of us.

I bet you £10 she hasn't had to deal with any of these! (feel free to add your own)

-40+ calls to DWP, often being left on hold for 2 hours or more
-many months delay in benefits being processed, leaving you without any income at all
-DWP advising you to "find a food bank"
-struggle up the hill on crutches to get a bus to chemo
-appointments delayed and cancelled, blood tests lost and repeated, regular system "crashes" leaving medical staff with no access to your notes.
-never seeing the same medical professionals twice.
-consultant appointments cancelled when you have already travelled several hours to the hospital
-telephone appointments you have to sit and wait by the phone for, for the whole day
-worry on crammed full bus when you are CEV
-getting off bus because it is too full
-getting of bus because you are vomiting
-sitting on the pavement for 3-4 hours after chemo in the dark and rain, because you are CEV and don't want to get back on a crammed bus in the rush hour
-commuters swearing at you because you move too slowly
-commuter kicking you out of the way because you move to slowly, and doing it with an air of indignation, like they feel seriously injured by having to touch something so disgusting with their foot
-minimum 18 hour wait in A and E before being admitted with infection - once it was 28 hours
-further many hour wait in ER before being admitted to wards.
-spending night on chair in corridor, after being admitted to a ward
-being asked to vacate chair in corridor so doctor can perform ECG on patient who is currently standing up with nowhere to sit
-being warned by hospital staff to sleep in your glasses so they are not stolen
-having to buy a constant stream of new clothes, and having to go to charity shops - on steroids? go up two sizes, no chemo? go down 3- surgery? get front opening everything, in a range of sizes.
-not being able have a clean the house, wash up, open the window even, without calling a friend to come and help.
-council refusing to empty your bins because you are not capable of moving them to the right place at the right time
-giving away your pets because you can't take care of them, or afford them
-being told the waiting list to see a physiotherapist is around a year

I could go on

I am so grateful for the treatment I have had, and I hope the Princess of Wales does well and recovers, but the two situations are not the same, even slightly, even if the disease is.

Sorry you are having a tough time op. Can you link the article please ? I need to read this ....

Lisawho · 17/06/2024 18:40

Apolloneuro · 17/06/2024 18:36

Your flippancy about this devastating illness is an insult to anyone who has had it.

Your histrionics are an affront to common decency. It's not as flippant or insulting as your attitude.

crumblingschools · 17/06/2024 18:40

@Lisawho think you are worse than the journalist that set this debate off in the first place

Lisawho · 17/06/2024 18:42

Apolloneuro · 17/06/2024 18:38

You’re too disgusting to engage with further.

Be careful what you wish for.

You've just lost any moral high ground. Think about that.

GoodAfternoonGoodEveningAndGoodnight · 17/06/2024 18:44

Lisawho · 17/06/2024 18:37

People exclaiming 'wow' are just so tiresome.

Rather tiresome than disgusting.

Lisawho · 17/06/2024 18:45

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newfriend05 · 17/06/2024 18:48

I hear you OP , I have my lovely father going through this at the moment and the fight we had to have because he was in his 70s .. I bet Charles didn't have to prove his life was worth saving .. the delays we had , mistakes , uncaring staff .. I could go on if we were not so clued up .. I know he wouldn't have had some treatment

GoodAfternoonGoodEveningAndGoodnight · 17/06/2024 18:49

Think someone needs help.
Seek it.
Sorry for you.

foxyariel · 17/06/2024 18:50

OP, fgs, just add a link to the offending article!
The OP isn't Kate bashing; she's just saying it's offensive to be referred to as a 'lesser mortal'. And I agree with her, fwiw.

OutsideLookingOut · 17/06/2024 18:56

Lisawho · 17/06/2024 18:26

Of course she is. I'd swap her places and I'm in perfect health. I'd take a life of privilege, luxury, adoration and unparalleled opportunity for my kids over my own health without hesitation.

People won't like this but are entitled to our opinions. I get you though I still wouldn't. Cyclic poverty, being on the bottom rung of society sucks, swapping positions in exchange for maybe my life would ensure your offspring have a far better life.

Buffs · 17/06/2024 19:16

Completely agree. I have incurable cancer and school aged children. I could add to your list. Cancer when you’re privileged compared to cancer when you’re not is a different planet.