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DH and the broken engagement ring

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AppelationStation · 15/06/2024 21:55

Short version: One of the diamonds has fallen out of my engagement ring. DH says we can't afford to fix it as we're trying to save (which we are). AIBU?

Long version: When we got engaged DH gave me a beautiful, old engagement right that belonged to his grandmother and her mother before that. It''s the nost special object I've ever had.

A couple of years after we got married, one of the diamonds fell out. We searched and searched but couldn't find the stone. That was 5 years ago. Since then, it has been sat in a box in my dresser.

We have been very hard up for most of our marriage, so I could understand not getting it fixed. Diamonds are hardly a priority when you're struggling to pay the bills. In the last 12 months things have been much better, largely down to me going back to uni through the pandemic, acing it whilst also homeschooling our young son when schools were shut, working my arse off since I qualified and almost doubling my salary in the last 2 years (it was low to begin with so not that much by mumsnet standards but still a big achievement).

DH earns barely above minimum wage in a skilled job that he adores and is brilliant at, but is in a v low paid industry. Whenever we've had conversations about money, his job has never been a thing he is willing to consider changing. He will always be a low earner, and any change to our circumstances will have to fall to me, hence my recent career decisions. I, on the other hand, am often criticised for 'spending' - even kids shoes that fit properly or kids clothes (or my own) that are not second hand are seen as self indulgent and wasteful. I've felt some resentment towards him because of this over the years, though now I just accept it, and can see a benefit to one of us not being massively stressed by huge responsibilities all the time. He's a very playful, present father to our DS. He's also very careful with money, organised and disciplined, which I'm grateful for. He is definitely a 'save until you can afford it' person. He consideres any (0% interest) credit card debt, or overdraft debt, however small, as a sign of trouble and would rather eat beans and not go on holiday and pay it off straight away, than accept a small amount and paying it down slowly and affordably. We have a 2.5k loan we used towards the cost of a vehicle last year, and about £500 in cc debt. We have no other debts, mortgage, car loans etc whatsoever.

I recently had a pay rise that equated to about a 20% increase. We agreed we would live as we currently do for the next 6 months, pay everything off and save more towards the deposit for a house (currently renting). I suggested we could look into the cost of getting my ring fixed and maybe do that too, as a kind of treat and gift to myself having worked to hard to get here. Today we found out that it would cost about £230. DH refuses to do it. We need to save the money / pay off things first, it's not a priority, no one needs a ring. Generally when it comes to money, what he says goes.

Now, I don't want a ring fixed with reluctance and resentment on my wedding finger, so I've had to drop it. But I feel a bit hurt tbh. More than I'd like the ring to be able to wear again, I'd like DH to feel proud of me, and grateful for how hard I've worked, and sad that I've not worn the ring he gave me when he proposed for the last 5 years, and for him to want to get it fixed too. He just doesn't really care that much.

I said "what if I could find the money somehow, maybe sell a few things?" (clothes, old kids stuff etc) and he replied "then that money should so into the pot, not get spent on stuff we don't need". So even as the higher earner, by some margin, I lack the agency to make this decision.

He says we'll fix it one day. When is it ever going to be a priority? I look at my wedding finger and feel a bit sad. The ring sits in a box. How old will I be before I can wear it again? What's the point of it if I can't?

I don't know. Sorry for the long post over a totally 1st world problem. It's not the ring, it's his attitude. Is he being tight fisted and mean, or AIBU?

OP posts:
Conniebygaslight · 16/06/2024 10:42

You do have agency in your own finances. You’re choosing not to. This is unbelievably controlling by your DH disguised as being careful.
It’s not OK….

Grawlix · 16/06/2024 10:43

I’m really sorry, OP. I posted on your ‘dishwasher' thread last year. Your H is still a controlling piss-taker, and I take no pleasure in saying that. I genuinely hope that you can read these responses, find them useful and motivating and have a productive think about where to go from here, because it’s not about the ring (or the dishwasher, or the campervan). It’s about him selfishly attending to his own interests and comfort and not including you.

Kanelsnegl · 16/06/2024 10:44

I think the bigger problem is he thinks he gets final say. I don't think he gets to refuse to help improve the family finances but then make every financial decision.

JurassicFantastic · 16/06/2024 10:46

So let me get this right....

He has prioritised his own happiness (in his job) over having additional money to spend as he pleases. HIS choice. Benefits ONLY HIM.

You earn extra money but are not allowed to spend it on what makes you or your DC happy (or frankly on essentials) - only on what makes your DH happy. So again HIS choice.Benefits ONLY HIM.

He has debts - which are paid for (at least in part) out of your income. Again HIS choice. Benefits ONLY HIM.

He has some savings in his name - which he has built up because you are paying for essentials for you and your DC. Again HIS choice. Benefits ONLY HIM.

Every month before transferring his income to the joint account he deducts what he considers to be essential purchases. You get no say in this. Again HIS choice. Benefits ONLY HIM.

If you attempt to do the same you get passive aggression. Again HIS choice. Benefits ONLY HIM.

He has access to the financial details and plan. You do not. Again HIS choice. Benefits ONLY HIM.

This man does not want a wife/partner. He wants a provider who will bring in the money to enable him to live the life that makes him happy. He does not give one jot about whether you or your DC are happy, or even if you are OK, and he never will. His happiness is his only concern and always will be.

He is NOT going to change. Ever. Because he doesn't love you or care about you. So you need to decide - do you want you and your DC to be happy? Do you want your (and your DC's) happiness to matter? Do you want you and your DC to feel loved and cared for? If so you need to leave. Nothing else will ever change.

So screw the engagement ring. Either you leave and it's an irrelevant part of your past that doesn't matter. Or you stay and accept your happiness and your DC's happiness will never ever matter in your 'family ' - in which case the ring doesn't matter as it doesn't make your husband happy and that's all that matters.

PaminaMozart · 16/06/2024 10:47

Instead of focusing on repairing a broken engagement ring, you should be investing in a divorce.

Seriously, @AppelationStation - wake up and take charge of your life instead of trying to appease your abuser.

853ax · 16/06/2024 10:48

Leave the ring into jewelry repair shop for the job to be done.
Pay for it from next pay or if you need to hold back 20-50 each month from joint a/c unit you have enough to pay for ring.
You are working hard you deserve to spend some that money on yourself.
Do you get bonus? If so always keep that separate only for you not family.

SirVixofVixHall · 16/06/2024 10:52

Smartiepants79 · 15/06/2024 22:12

Just bloody do it!
Are you currently wearing no ring at all then?
Does you husband understand how very much it means to you. That this is making you and your marriage feel so unimportant and unloved??
It’s so mean spirited and tight fisted.

I agree. This kind of act that causes resentment can bit by bit destroy a marriage. It is so uncaring and dismissive of your feelings, feelings that he should find touching seeing as your care for the ring is because it is a symbol of your love and commitment, not just a random piece of jewellery.
Why is he the only one getting a say here ? I was also shocked that he complains about properly fitted shoes ? That is health issue not an indulgence. Even if this ring was totally frivolous that is still important, we all need to have fun and joy .
Why give you a family heirloom ring and then expect you not to care ? I’m starting to think he didn’t want to shell out for a new one !

Mumsgirls · 16/06/2024 10:53

All the ring meant to him was saving by not buying one, now too tight to repair it.
why cannot you stand up to him.? Agree debt comes first. Then you work out a percentage of each income to go to joint account for bills and savings, or you each get an amount for own spends each month. You are both due equal say, but the one earning the least does not get to dictate. If you cannot agree, just start keeping back a sewerage amount each month for you, he can like it or lump hi. No one made him the boss

Persus · 16/06/2024 10:54

Yeah freedom program and support from family and friends. You are better out of this relationship where your partner doesn’t celebrate or support you but will quite happily continue to determine how your own money is spent. You aren’t happy and he will grind you down as he takes your hard earned money while refusing to work for any more of his own (despite it being such an issue for him).

Get the ring fixed and it’s a metaphor for the start of your freedom and your application of the agency and ability that you clearly have to your own life. Invest in yourself and your child and you will flourish.

Dibbydoos · 16/06/2024 10:56

@AppelationStation For those saying its your money, it isn't its family money from which you should take spends and use that as you see fit. Tell him youre going to do this - I dont know how much would be acceptable, but my hubby and I at the start ofbour relationship both earned about £40k and took £400pcm each to spend.

If you want to buy a property you will need to save like billio, so your DH is right, its not nec to spend money on possessions. However, the ring is not just a possession, it's a symbol of love and yet he doesnt see it like that. This is a significant difference in your values and why you are so upset by it.

I feel for you, the ring means more to you than him. Does he know this? Have you spoken to him about how you feel? £230 sounds ok to me but that cost might not escalate as much as property has been so you both need to work that through not just him, ok?

Choochoo21 · 16/06/2024 10:58

YABU

Its a ring and is way down on the list of priorities.

If you want to wear one then just get a cheap £20 one for now, if wearing one is so important to you.

It is a lot of money to spend on just fixing a ring when you have other things to pay for.

It’s 1/4 of £1k and you’re trying to save for a deposit.

Why waste so much money on something so trivial when you could just wait until you’ve saved enough for a deposit.

You sound like you have a lot of resentment for your DH though, especially over his job and I can’t see this getting any better.
You both sound quite incompatible.

Is getting a mortgage something you actually want or are you having second thoughts?
Is the ring a distraction for the actual problems in your marriage?

Ohnobackagain · 16/06/2024 10:58

Bloody hell @AppelationStation he gets to stay in a low paid job because you are flogging yourself to enable it. You can spend some of your hard-earned money on yourself! I suspect he feels he should pay. In which case he can pay instalments to you to cover it. Don’t stand for this, it’s not ok. I’m not saying don’t share, and I’m not saying go crazy - there’s a happy medium and this is not it!

AlanBrendaCelia · 16/06/2024 10:59

justasking111 · 15/06/2024 23:00

He didn't even cough up for the ring it was his grannies.

As for being in a poorly paid job all his life. Well Whoopi doo, look at his shining halo 🙄

Exactly. He sounds like the sort of person who thought “I’ve got this ring of my grandmother’s hanging around, if i use this to propose with, it’ll save me spending money on a ring”. He probably even proposed on a birthday or at Xmas so the ring became OP’s present, thus saving him money on buying an actual present,

Alittlefrustrated · 16/06/2024 11:01

The ring isn't special OP - it was DH's way out of having to spend money on a ring for you. I'm really sorry if this upsets you OP, but you need to switch your focus from this broken ring, to getting out of this controlling marriage. It will not get better. I also have a stingy DP - he hasn't become less so in 34 years. A huge difference is, I have my own money, and he wouldn't dare try to tell me what to do with it. I'm a spender I've worked hard, and I'll play hard (though I don't have debt and I do have good savings). Your situation would be intolerable for me. You have the drive and ability to succeed without him.

Bumblebeestiltskin · 16/06/2024 11:05

AppelationStation · 15/06/2024 22:12

Yes, that's why I said it wasn't so much about the ring but about his attitude.

I just wish he valued me a bit more, and that my engagement ring meant something to him. I feel like I'll always be on the back foot, always have to work doubly hard, and still never be good enough for him to treasure.

I'm sorry, I don't think he'll ever make you feel valued and that's so sad.

Bumblebeestiltskin · 16/06/2024 11:09

AppelationStation · 16/06/2024 00:07

He wouldn't be outwardly angry. He'd look at me with distain and then be aloof, superior, disapproving and distant.

He sounds like a horrible, depressing, dick.

SapphireSeptember · 16/06/2024 11:13

I had one like this. I threw him back. He wasn't working either! So I was the only one earning (not much, but enough) but he'd trawl bank statements and tell me off for spending £6 in Boots. When he tried to get me to give up my phone (£10 PAYG Samsung brick, compared to his iPhone that his mum was paying £45 a month for) I lost my shit. He did eventually get a job, after I moved my wages into my own bank account and he no longer had access to my money. During this time he was having an emotional affair with a teenager, took up smoking and drinking, and I lost all respect for him. Thankfully no kids.

Itiswhysofew · 16/06/2024 11:17

Unbelievable how he thinks it's his role to control all of the income coming into the household. You've worked hard to improve your earning potential, whilst he continues with his lower earning career, but still calls the shots! No. You are entitled to spend as you see fit.

Don't leave the ring sitting in a box for a potential thief to steal away from you.

Thelnebriati · 16/06/2024 11:18

I, on the other hand, am often criticised for 'spending' - even kids shoes that fit properly or kids clothes (or my own) that are not second hand are seen as self indulgent and wasteful.

He prioritises his own comfort over everything, and he's happy to make his family uncomfortable, as long as he has the job he wants.

This sounds controlling to me, he's just found a socially acceptable way to get away with it.

Hydenseek78 · 16/06/2024 11:18

I've just read your post and replies and I'm sorry you dont have access to the spreadsheet or details of your joint finances, how the hell do you know what hes spending his money on, are the overdraft amounts actually what he says they are for or is he squirrelling away money. Please get unlimited access to the spreadsheet and put a percentage of your earnings away for yourself. What hes doing is financial abuse. He's controlling, hes happy in his job but making everyone else miserable. The ring being fixed isnt the issue its his whole attitude towards you, i would also stop with the luxuary gifts for him, tell him its not needed and the money can go towards the house, im sure his attitude about that will change. Get the ring fixed and wear it, thats what he gave you it for when he proposed. The man sounds like he sucks the soul and joy out of the room. i cant imagine wanting to have that life for the next 50 years !!

AlanBrendaCelia · 16/06/2024 11:18

OldTinHat · 16/06/2024 09:43

Is it not covered under contents insurance? Mine was.

OP can’t make an insurance claim now for something that happened five years ago. Also, the excess would probably be almost as much as the cost of repair.

anyolddinosaur · 16/06/2024 11:22

On the initial question you are being unreasonable, an engagement ring is less important than housing security. However although I have not read your other threads about him he is being financially controlling. You should see his spreadsheet and major spending decisions should be taken together. A loving husband would get an extra part time job to get the ring fixed or at least increase your house deposit savings.

At the moment he's putting your money into his savings. That is financially sensible if you are going to buy a house together but not if you decide to divorce. Consider how you want to go forward.

Drandthemedics · 16/06/2024 11:30

Take this as an opportunity to change the dynamics about financial decisions in your relationship. Now that he is definitely not going to earn more, and you are, you should have more of a say about how it’s spent. Tell him that. It’s not about the ring, you can address that next year, this year focus on changing the decision making

godmum56 · 16/06/2024 11:31

anyolddinosaur · 16/06/2024 11:22

On the initial question you are being unreasonable, an engagement ring is less important than housing security. However although I have not read your other threads about him he is being financially controlling. You should see his spreadsheet and major spending decisions should be taken together. A loving husband would get an extra part time job to get the ring fixed or at least increase your house deposit savings.

At the moment he's putting your money into his savings. That is financially sensible if you are going to buy a house together but not if you decide to divorce. Consider how you want to go forward.

Edited

its NEVER financially sensible for someone to take away control of your money!

godmum56 · 16/06/2024 11:32

Drandthemedics · 16/06/2024 11:30

Take this as an opportunity to change the dynamics about financial decisions in your relationship. Now that he is definitely not going to earn more, and you are, you should have more of a say about how it’s spent. Tell him that. It’s not about the ring, you can address that next year, this year focus on changing the decision making

Nah, this year focus on LTB