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DH threw sentimental toys away

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VSadMum · 15/06/2024 19:16

My DH has an issue with throwing things away without speaking to me first. If he tidies up in our house he just bins stuff without checking it first. He’s binned my passport and other important documents before now. He promised me that he would stop doing that. God forbid if I threw away so much as a paper clip that belonged to him.

About a month ago our 3 y/o DS got hold of a sharpie and you can imagine, he drew on a lot of his toys. He also drew on some toys that had belonged to my older son (21 y/o) that had been passed onto him. I read up that acetone can remove sharpie and put the toys and stuffed toys into bags in the downstairs shower room that we use for storage. I specifically told my DH that I was going to try and get the sharpie off. I’ve been busy, we’ve been on holiday etc and I have two young children who I look after, I hadn’t got round to cleaning the toys up.

There was also a sweet little bear made up of fabrics from clothes I bought for a baby I later miscarried. I liked that my subsequent children played with that bear. I imagined my grandchildren playing with those toys and that bear one day. I wanted to clean it without destroying it so I’ve been looking online for how to do it, so yes, a month later it was still all sitting there, not in the way or anything.

So today I found out he just took it all to the tip. It’s the sentimental value of some of these toys I am most upset about, especially the bear. I can’t replace them. If I had wanted them binned I would have done it myself in the first place. He didn’t ask me about it, or tell me he was going to do it. He told me afterwards. I am very upset, particularly about the toys that belonged to my older son and the bear. (Not his son) They were all really nice wooden toys, a train set, stacking toys etc. there was nothing wrong with them except some sharpie on them. They were quite old and the sort of things I wanted to keep.

He said he did me a favour going to the tip (I asked him to take some stuff from the garden) and I had no right to be mad with him and now he’s sulking. I’ve asked him time and time again to stop just throwing things away. He’s forever binning my things, because he’s decided I don’t need them or it’s rubbish and he always says it’s “accident.” He can’t understand why I’m upset. I’m very upset and mad because he KNEW that I wanted to clean them up. He’s acting like I’m being silly and unreasonable, I don’t think I am. I keep imagine all those well loved little toys sitting in a skip and I’m genuinely so, so upset. I genuinely believe he did it on purpose, as he’s now saying it was accidental. How can it be accidental?

Am I making a big fuss about nothing?

OP posts:
noodlezoodle · 15/06/2024 22:05

I'm so sorry and I hope you can get your things back.

I also think this was absolutely intentional. In our house, I am the thrower-awayer and my husband is a bit of a hoarder. Does it drive me mad? Absolutely. Do I ever throw his things away without asking? No, because that would be so disrespectful.

Your husband is a horrible human being and I hope he realises that and tries to make amends.

RabbitsRock · 15/06/2024 22:18

Agree with pps - this is just awful OP. I feel so upset & angry on your behalf. Really hope you can get at least some of your precious items back, especially the bear. Will you update us?

PollyPeachum · 15/06/2024 22:19

Sorry to add to the bad news but it sounds to me as if there is a deliberate and calculating vindictiveness behind his actions of his.
Do some thinking about how he rules the household and his attitude to the children. Quiet thinking first. Then questions to him. More thinking. Explode all over him later if required.

Ellie56 · 15/06/2024 22:20

He is grade A twat. How dare he dump your precious things?

ParentsTrapped · 15/06/2024 22:25

OP I just wanted to say I’m so sorry. You are not overreacting - this was truly a horrible thing to do. I really hope you can get the stuff back.

I do think you should seriously reconsider your relationship with this man.

AloeVerity · 15/06/2024 22:28

I think that’s grounds for divorce!

I’m still not over DH losing my original birth certificate. I have a copy and that’s fine, but it was signed by my D Dad who died young. I somehow clung to the fact that it was his handwriting on it! He took it to work for part of a visa application and lost it (along with his own, to be fair). I once tried to explain how upset I was to MIL and she also thought I was being ridiculous, like it was nothing. Dismissive, like your DH. It stings.

Daisybuttercup12345 · 15/06/2024 22:31

MummBRaaarrrTheEverLeaking · 15/06/2024 19:29

Bin something important of his, see how he likes it.

I'm serious. Do it. Teach the fucker a lesson.

Yes. Documents, his passport, his keys, something he treasures. The whole lot. He's an arsehole.

ArrrMeHearties · 15/06/2024 22:33

Leave him and just before you do bag every single thing of his and put it in the skip

ttcat37 · 15/06/2024 22:35

LTB. Not being sarcastic.

oakleaffy · 15/06/2024 22:42

That's really painful, @VSadMum I really hope you can retrieve some of that stuff back. Especially the Bear.

AllCatsAreGreyRobert · 15/06/2024 22:46

I don’t think I’d retailiate. I’d quietly spend my energy sorting out finances & documents & seeing a solicitor in preparation for a divorce. Because he sounds controlling and probably abusive.

(My mum’s stepmum was horrible and threw out most of her childhood belongings. It still upsets my mum 60 years later that she has nothing from her childhood/teen years.)

Lopine · 15/06/2024 22:56

I am sorry OP 💐

Throwing things away like that, especially repeatedly and with the knowledge that the behaviour upsets you, is potentially abusive.

Please get yourself some support whilst you decide your next move. This kind of situation can escalate.https://www.nhs.uk/live-well/getting-help-for-domestic-violence/

nhs.uk

Getting help for domestic violence and abuse

Find out about the signs of domestic violence and abuse, and where to get help. Domestic violence and abuse can happen against women and against men, and anyone can be an abuser.

https://www.nhs.uk/live-well/getting-help-for-domestic-violence/

Tagyoureit · 15/06/2024 23:04

Bin him!

PurpleBugz · 15/06/2024 23:12

I agree with everyone else it sounds abusive. What have you done recently he's punishing you for? Did he not want to take the garden stuff so this was his way of ensuring you never ask again? It reminds me of my abusive ex- after we split he broke in and trashed my house but only stole baby scan photos and artwork I had framed from dd, christening gifts, that sort of thing it included a teddy made of her babygrows actually. This was meant to hurt you

I could not get past this I would start planning to leave.

spicysamosahotcupoftea · 15/06/2024 23:19

VSadMum · 15/06/2024 19:29

To clarify RE my passport. That’s probably the one instance where it was genuinely accidental. I had tucked my passport into a work induction folder. You know those folders they give you full of leaflets etc. I put the folder in my desk, I knew where it all was. He chucked the folder out without checking it. He tore the house upside down looking for my passport when I needed it and eventually paid for a new one. But the point remains he shouldn’t have been throwing stuff away without asking me first.

I am actually quite brokenhearted about those toys. They are my memories. I have been crying on and off all afternoon. I was thinking about going to the tip tomorrow morning and seeing if I can retrieve any of it.

This is a good idea. Try and see if you can get any of it back.

Then hang him from the nearest fucking lamppost.

He keeps doing it. It isn't an accident.

allthemiddlechildrenoftheworld · 15/06/2024 23:23

@VSadMum so sorry! I too have a husband like this!! if something is not his then it belongs in the bin!!! he, on the other hand, has filled the house, garage and attic with crap! My sis was also like this! she inherited my mother's house and threw all things belonging to me into the bin. the only photos I own are from age 21! not a single school pic or certificate was given to me!

Sasqwatch · 15/06/2024 23:34

SeulementUneFois · 15/06/2024 19:19

Sorry I know that wasn't the exact point of your post.
But - your passport?? Wth??
That has to be intentional, some form of control.
And he goes mad if you did anything like this to his stuff? You need to do that - and read him the riot act when he complains.

I'm sorry I've a bad feeling about him.

This, he sounds most unpleasant.

hoarahloux · 15/06/2024 23:45

My partner won't throw out anything from the kitchen. Doesn't seem to notice that the bread has gone mouldy, even though he's the only one who eats it, and will ignore his singular peach going green in the fruit bowl - but now I won't ever be irritated at him again, because he always asks me. "Did you want to keep that single clove of garlic that fell down the side of the cutting board?"

FlapJacksy · 15/06/2024 23:46

It’s not accidental. Been here, done that , got the t shirt and the divorce

Maray1967 · 15/06/2024 23:47

Tell him that he has to go with you to the tip to get it back - or you will start binning his stuff. He needs to know you mean it.

Codlingmoths · 15/06/2024 23:49

I’d be chucking LOTS of his stuff out in the next week. What a tosser. I’d be chucking his dinner out in front of him after plating it up. How dare he dismiss how you feel- does he have any good points? Have you told him you want to chuck him out right now, and the only reason it happened is because he doesn’t care about you enough to have EVER listened to you before or to want you not to be hurt??

AffableApple · 16/06/2024 02:03

Hungrycaterpillarsmummy · 15/06/2024 19:26

I'm torn tbh.

There's been toys sitting in bags for a month, your son hasn't missed them which means he must be playing with other stuff.

Your passport - was it expired?

I doubt you can get a Sharpie off a bear but I think it was bad of him to throw that away.

It's not about whether the son misses the toys, the OP didn't want them thrown out.

If the passport was expired, the OP would have said: " Luckily it was expired. No harm done." Instead we learn that the "DH" must've gone into her desk drawer to throw the folder it was in, out.

It doesn't matter whether the marks could be removed, the OP wanted to try. And would still have kept the bear.

The "DH" has form for throwing things away, and has promised to change. He was also aware the OP had set the stuff aside to deal with when she could.

Nothing to be "torn" over. A vehement LTB.

VSadMum · 16/06/2024 02:43

He isn’t abusive. Aside from this throwing things away habit he doesn’t do anything bad. He’s supportive with what I want to do, he’s a good dad to our DS and DD, he’s a good stepfather and has always been good to my oldest son. He works hard and he’s very loving to all of us. He isn’t controlling, most of the time he’s in his own little world, and says yes dear no dear. He’s just stupid and thoughtless. He isn’t malicious either. He’s thick. I can’t think of any other way to explain it. When it comes to people and emotions, he’s thick. He is often very rude and he doesn’t understand he’s been rude. I have to explain it to him and then he will go and do the same thing again and be puzzled by the negative response he gets. His people and social skills are really bad. It’s like trying to train a dumb animal that enjoys running in front of trains or something equally stupid. He has zero people/social skills and he has onto have things explained to him in idiot terms like “X I am very upset and hurt because-“ and then after repeating that several times he might actually begin to understand for a week or two and then we are right back to square one.

He genuinely doesn’t understand why I’m so upset about “ruined” toys because we can just buy some new ones. He thought I’d be pleased that he cleared the shower room out as we’ve got relatives coming to stay soon. No, we have two other bathrooms and nobody uses the shower room so I store things in there. If I wanted it cleared out I would have said when you take the garden stuff to the tip, take the stuff in the shower room too.

He didn’t know about the sentiment behind the bear. Obviously he knew about the late miscarriage I had before I met him but I don’t talk about it the same as I don’t talk about the miscarriage I had between our DS and DD. Regardless, I had a life before I met him (11 years ago) and I have possessions from that life and those possessions are mine and I shouldn’t have to explain why I am attached to them. We are in our forties for goodness sakes. He shouldn’t throw things of mine out just because he thinks I don’t need them or they aren’t anything important. I cried and told him about why that bear was so important and he’s going to go to the tip first thing to try and get it all back. But I am beyond frustrated about him doing this. He’s apologised but I know he will do it again. Maybe not with toys etc but he goes on these mad cleaning sprees and nearly every time he bins something, appointment letters, cards from people, paperwork (I work from home), pictures our DS has drawn for me. He’s never thrown anything like this away before though. He’s admitted it wasn’t accidental and he said over and over that he thought I wouldn’t mind and I would be glad he did it and saved me the job of trying to fix them or throw them away myself.

He’s actually managed to throw away his own birth certificate because it didn’t occur to him to unfold it and see what it was. It isnt accidental, it’s a a stupid thing which he never seems to learn from. My passport for eg, he absolutely refused to believe he had thrown it away because why would he throw a passport away and tore the house apart because he had paid for a weekend in France for us and he was adamant he couldn’t have possibly have thrown it away. In the end he had to admit that he might have thrown the folder it was in away and couldn’t explain why or how he thought that clearing my desk out was a good idea and said he was just trying to help me out by tidying it up. I wish he would just leave things alone and when he gets one of his ideas about “sorting out” he just wouldn’t. I’m tired of going over it with him. He seemed hurt and puzzled by my getting so upset today about what he’s done.

If I threw anything of his away then yes he would go mad. He likes everything of his in the same place as he left it as he’s got this mad ocd type organisation and he can’t understand that his way isn’t my way. I don’t touch his stuff and I expect the same courtesy back. The house is not cluttered, it is clean and tidy and I have no idea what his obsession is about my things. He’s thrown half used bottles of expensive perfume away before now because I hadn’t worn it for a while. Make up. I don’t wear it every day, not even every week, doesn’t bloody mean I don’t want it. My books are all kept in my office and he’s always saying maybe you should get rid of some? He once threw some old ones away because they were battered. They were actually very old, like printed in the 1900’s old and he had to replace them all and it cost him a lot of money. I thought he had learned his lesson with that. He’s a ham fisted t*t who breaks everything he touches (seriously he can’t open an oven door without breaking it) and he drives me insane and he always thinks he’s being helpful when he’s not.

My boys toys though… I’m hoping other mums understand this. I was a young mum with my first son. I didn’t have a lot of money. I saved up for his nice toys, properly made wooden toys that he could keep for his own children. It’s made me smile for years seeing those toys… he gave them to his little brother to play with, and my DD (2) has played with them too. They were well loved and a constant feature for 20 years of my life. My eldest DS said when he had kids he would reclaim them as he liked the idea of passing them down. That’s a big part of why a bit of sharpie wasn’t going to make me just bin them. I would have fcking repainted them if I had to. They mean that much to me and my oldest son. I have two small children and I work full time, I just hadn’t gotten around to it. I hadn’t forgotten and I had actually taken a few bits and pieces out of the bags and started to figure out what I could do with them. Oldest son is aware of what’s happened and he’s said why oh why can’t he just leave things alone? They have a good relationship and he knows it wasn’t malicious but he also knows DH well enough to know that he won’t be able to grasp why I’m so upset or why those things were sentimental and why he should have just left them the fck alone. He (DH) says he thought I would be more upset at keeping ruined toys and being reminded about how upset I was when DS first scribbled on them. No!!!! If I couldn’t have got the sharpie off or repainted them then the sharpie would have just been part of their story and probably would have been laughed about in the future.

And that bear. When I first lost my baby, many years ago, at a stage where you are starting to feel the odd kick and thinking about nurseries and prams- I didn’t have anything to show I had given birth. There was no birth or death certificate or anything. I made that bear myself. A patchwork bear. It’s all I had. It’s been well loved, is in baby photos of my other children, slept with them and been present all these years and it’s always made me feel like my little baby is still very much part of the family. The idea of that bear sitting in a skip, abandoned and getting rained on makes me feel physically sick. I know he didn’t know, it’s just a bear to him, but the very fact it’s old and I’ve kept it so long should have made him think, hang on a minute. But no. I sometimes think he just has some sort of tunnel vision and is like the f*cking terminator when he gets an idea in to his head. I know he’s a bit weird, like he has a routine that he sticks to and can’t handle it being changed and these sorting out sprees are something he does but I am so tired of going through this and this is by far the worst thing he’s ever done. Losing documents and even my passport has been irritating and I’ve yelled at him countless of times but this time it really hurts. He’s really hurt me and he isn’t the sort of man who hurts people. That makes it worse iykwim.

He hates seeing me cry and he’s very apologetic now but if he actually listened and stopped doing this then we wouldn’t be here now. I can’t even look at him. If I can’t get those things back then I don’t know how we are going to move forward or if we can. I am absolutely devastated and beyond frustrated. I can’t even articulate how angry I am. The fact that he just doesn’t get it makes it worse. He’s being empathetic and trying to figure out how to get it all back but I know he doesn’t really grasp it. I know that there’s more important things going on in the world and my two little children haven’t noticed, but I really am so upset about it.

OP posts:
User284732 · 16/06/2024 03:06

100% of me sympathises with your heartbreak over losing the sentimental items. 98% of me thinks you weren't ever going to get Sharpie out of wooden or fabric toys no matter what you tried. 5% of me wonders if you have a tendency to hoard nostalgic things, non nostalgic things, and things to deal with later than you will very likely never get round to, and you maybe depend on having a partner who has to be ruthless with items to prevent you living in chaos, and you probably don't notice a majority of things he throws away to keep thinks on order?

sprigatito · 16/06/2024 03:13

VSadMum · 16/06/2024 02:43

He isn’t abusive. Aside from this throwing things away habit he doesn’t do anything bad. He’s supportive with what I want to do, he’s a good dad to our DS and DD, he’s a good stepfather and has always been good to my oldest son. He works hard and he’s very loving to all of us. He isn’t controlling, most of the time he’s in his own little world, and says yes dear no dear. He’s just stupid and thoughtless. He isn’t malicious either. He’s thick. I can’t think of any other way to explain it. When it comes to people and emotions, he’s thick. He is often very rude and he doesn’t understand he’s been rude. I have to explain it to him and then he will go and do the same thing again and be puzzled by the negative response he gets. His people and social skills are really bad. It’s like trying to train a dumb animal that enjoys running in front of trains or something equally stupid. He has zero people/social skills and he has onto have things explained to him in idiot terms like “X I am very upset and hurt because-“ and then after repeating that several times he might actually begin to understand for a week or two and then we are right back to square one.

He genuinely doesn’t understand why I’m so upset about “ruined” toys because we can just buy some new ones. He thought I’d be pleased that he cleared the shower room out as we’ve got relatives coming to stay soon. No, we have two other bathrooms and nobody uses the shower room so I store things in there. If I wanted it cleared out I would have said when you take the garden stuff to the tip, take the stuff in the shower room too.

He didn’t know about the sentiment behind the bear. Obviously he knew about the late miscarriage I had before I met him but I don’t talk about it the same as I don’t talk about the miscarriage I had between our DS and DD. Regardless, I had a life before I met him (11 years ago) and I have possessions from that life and those possessions are mine and I shouldn’t have to explain why I am attached to them. We are in our forties for goodness sakes. He shouldn’t throw things of mine out just because he thinks I don’t need them or they aren’t anything important. I cried and told him about why that bear was so important and he’s going to go to the tip first thing to try and get it all back. But I am beyond frustrated about him doing this. He’s apologised but I know he will do it again. Maybe not with toys etc but he goes on these mad cleaning sprees and nearly every time he bins something, appointment letters, cards from people, paperwork (I work from home), pictures our DS has drawn for me. He’s never thrown anything like this away before though. He’s admitted it wasn’t accidental and he said over and over that he thought I wouldn’t mind and I would be glad he did it and saved me the job of trying to fix them or throw them away myself.

He’s actually managed to throw away his own birth certificate because it didn’t occur to him to unfold it and see what it was. It isnt accidental, it’s a a stupid thing which he never seems to learn from. My passport for eg, he absolutely refused to believe he had thrown it away because why would he throw a passport away and tore the house apart because he had paid for a weekend in France for us and he was adamant he couldn’t have possibly have thrown it away. In the end he had to admit that he might have thrown the folder it was in away and couldn’t explain why or how he thought that clearing my desk out was a good idea and said he was just trying to help me out by tidying it up. I wish he would just leave things alone and when he gets one of his ideas about “sorting out” he just wouldn’t. I’m tired of going over it with him. He seemed hurt and puzzled by my getting so upset today about what he’s done.

If I threw anything of his away then yes he would go mad. He likes everything of his in the same place as he left it as he’s got this mad ocd type organisation and he can’t understand that his way isn’t my way. I don’t touch his stuff and I expect the same courtesy back. The house is not cluttered, it is clean and tidy and I have no idea what his obsession is about my things. He’s thrown half used bottles of expensive perfume away before now because I hadn’t worn it for a while. Make up. I don’t wear it every day, not even every week, doesn’t bloody mean I don’t want it. My books are all kept in my office and he’s always saying maybe you should get rid of some? He once threw some old ones away because they were battered. They were actually very old, like printed in the 1900’s old and he had to replace them all and it cost him a lot of money. I thought he had learned his lesson with that. He’s a ham fisted t*t who breaks everything he touches (seriously he can’t open an oven door without breaking it) and he drives me insane and he always thinks he’s being helpful when he’s not.

My boys toys though… I’m hoping other mums understand this. I was a young mum with my first son. I didn’t have a lot of money. I saved up for his nice toys, properly made wooden toys that he could keep for his own children. It’s made me smile for years seeing those toys… he gave them to his little brother to play with, and my DD (2) has played with them too. They were well loved and a constant feature for 20 years of my life. My eldest DS said when he had kids he would reclaim them as he liked the idea of passing them down. That’s a big part of why a bit of sharpie wasn’t going to make me just bin them. I would have fcking repainted them if I had to. They mean that much to me and my oldest son. I have two small children and I work full time, I just hadn’t gotten around to it. I hadn’t forgotten and I had actually taken a few bits and pieces out of the bags and started to figure out what I could do with them. Oldest son is aware of what’s happened and he’s said why oh why can’t he just leave things alone? They have a good relationship and he knows it wasn’t malicious but he also knows DH well enough to know that he won’t be able to grasp why I’m so upset or why those things were sentimental and why he should have just left them the fck alone. He (DH) says he thought I would be more upset at keeping ruined toys and being reminded about how upset I was when DS first scribbled on them. No!!!! If I couldn’t have got the sharpie off or repainted them then the sharpie would have just been part of their story and probably would have been laughed about in the future.

And that bear. When I first lost my baby, many years ago, at a stage where you are starting to feel the odd kick and thinking about nurseries and prams- I didn’t have anything to show I had given birth. There was no birth or death certificate or anything. I made that bear myself. A patchwork bear. It’s all I had. It’s been well loved, is in baby photos of my other children, slept with them and been present all these years and it’s always made me feel like my little baby is still very much part of the family. The idea of that bear sitting in a skip, abandoned and getting rained on makes me feel physically sick. I know he didn’t know, it’s just a bear to him, but the very fact it’s old and I’ve kept it so long should have made him think, hang on a minute. But no. I sometimes think he just has some sort of tunnel vision and is like the f*cking terminator when he gets an idea in to his head. I know he’s a bit weird, like he has a routine that he sticks to and can’t handle it being changed and these sorting out sprees are something he does but I am so tired of going through this and this is by far the worst thing he’s ever done. Losing documents and even my passport has been irritating and I’ve yelled at him countless of times but this time it really hurts. He’s really hurt me and he isn’t the sort of man who hurts people. That makes it worse iykwim.

He hates seeing me cry and he’s very apologetic now but if he actually listened and stopped doing this then we wouldn’t be here now. I can’t even look at him. If I can’t get those things back then I don’t know how we are going to move forward or if we can. I am absolutely devastated and beyond frustrated. I can’t even articulate how angry I am. The fact that he just doesn’t get it makes it worse. He’s being empathetic and trying to figure out how to get it all back but I know he doesn’t really grasp it. I know that there’s more important things going on in the world and my two little children haven’t noticed, but I really am so upset about it.

I am so sorry. Your grief over that little bear is so completely understandable, just reading about it has made me cry. I'm sorry your husband can't understand it. I really, really hope you manage to get it back.

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