That restaurants should know parmesan isn't vegetarian?

[SpikyCoconut]

My Mum has booked this restaurant and asked if I want to come along.

Surely the chef should know this?

https://www.315barandrestaurant.co.uk/

Wibu to get in touch with them and ask if it is actually a parmesan substitute (in which case it should be labelled correctly!) Or if they can develop a different dish that actually IS vegetarian? There are two dishes with parmesan on the vegetarian menu.

This was actual crab, I asked!

Gosh! 😅 that would throw me off too.

@S0livagant , I've not eaten animals since I was a child. I check food labels.
I'm not vegan. I don't want plant-based fake anything.

If a restaurant can't be arsed to check if something is vegetarian, they probably won't check if something is free of allergens either.

I eat dairy and eggs. If people want to eat meat, I'd say fine but eat less meat but better quality meat.

That’s where I learned this too. I honestly had no idea until then.

For a non veggie, that menu looks fabulous though (totally misses the point of the thread)

All the vegetarians I know eat cheese tbh and I know people raised as vegetarians all their lives. If it were a problem for me I would always look for a vegan option tbh.

I think this is so silly. Surely vegetarians would be happy to have the vegan option! Since the majority of vegetarians don’t eat meat because they (misguidedly, since they pay for dairy/eggs) want to avoid animal cruelty, why not cut out even more animal cruelty by choosing the vegan option?

OP, I have just googled it and there are some commercial brands that sale vegetarian bio parmesan, and it is called parmesan. Could be one of those varieties or could be just that they have assumed that all cheese is OK for vegetarians to eat.
I would ask if they just forgot about the rennet or if is a vegetarian cheese.
You won't know until they or you read the label.

Not many people know that pretty well all mass produced sliced bread contains animal enzymes. But someone in government in the 1930s decided they didn't have to put it on the label "because it was degraded in cooking". Of course, on this logic you wouldn't have to label steak as meat either, but the rules haven't changed since.

So you don't want to eat something from a calf's stomach, but you will drink the milk meant for that calf after it's been ripped from it's mother and either reserved for death for being male or to become another female slave?
Honestly don't see how vegetarians have the audacity to complain publicly about being hard done by 🤯

Really? I’d absolutely expect great things if they’re gonna charge me that much.

Lots of cheese is suitable for vegetarians but Parmesan has animal in it. That said, I know plenty of vegetarians who turn a blind eye and eat haribo and desserts with gelatine. Dd adores pigs and hasn’t eaten pork since she was 4. That includes sweets and anything with pork gelatine… beef gelatine is absolutely fine and M&S has a great range of non gelatine alternatives.

Strict labels and competitive vegetarianism isn’t needed. Make your own rules what you’re comfortable eating!

I’ve no idea. I’ve not eaten them for years.

(Not sure why it matters to you. I’m perfectly entitled to not eat whatever I want not to eat.)

In better news for vegans and vegetarians, Rowntrees Fruit Gums, Fruit Pastilles and Jelly Tots don’t contain gelatine - I think they used to. They are soft, unlike some other vegetarian sweets like Candy Kittens. Also, Percy Pigs used to have a specific vegetarian range shown by Percy having one green ear, but I think all Percy Pigs are vegetarian now. A quick Google seems to confirm this.

In general this might be because the ingredients lists for some jelly-type sweets include (specifically) beef or pork gelatine. Making them without gelatine altogether opens up their markets to faiths which allow meat-eating but forbid beef or pork products.

Nope. My food choices have nothing to do with animal welfare.

I don’t want shitty fake cheeze or Beyond Meat burgers.

Rowntree = Nestle. hell will freeze over before I give them money and likewise M+S.

The harmless bacteria on all food and cutlery makes it all non-vegetarian.

Then my comment doesn’t apply to you, and you didn’t really need to reply to it :)

It's a capitalist system.

Restaurants are not obliged to cater for everyone.

People who don't fancy what's on a menu have the option of taking their business elsewhere.

If you think bacteria are animals then you are sadly deluded.

Oh, dear. Must I stick to a sweetie-free healthy diet, then? At least it will be good for me.

I think the point was that they might fancy what was on the menu were it not incorrectly labelled. I think it is reasonable to expect restaurants to know something about what they are selling, and what food description mean.

Me. 40 years of this

I absolutely check everything - pudding pots are risky - so are haribo or jelly sweets, cheeses, wine, anything with the potential for gelatin, rennet or cochineal (so red velvet cake for example). I also don’t use leather products. That’s a miniscule example.

yes it’s a pain but after this long it’s just what I do! Processed jelly sweets are no loss to go without , as per puddings - I avoid over processed foods anyway. Flavoured low fat yogurts don’t appeal. Pesto and cheeses you have labels which can easily be checked.

Turkish delight doesn’t usually contain gelatine. The texture would be all wrong if it did.

YANBU. As a life long veggie this drives me mad!! I often have to ask for the Parmesan to be removed (e.g off a pizza) and I always worry it makes me look fussy because a lot of people don’t realise it’s not veggie.

What's wrong with avocados for a veggie?