nursery opening hours

[scottishgal09]

I need to go back to work so will soon be putting my 9 month old in nursery, only thing is that the earliest I can find any nursery open is 7 am to 7 pm. The 7 pm closing time is fine but I really find I need a opening time of 6 pm. I also work Saturday mornings so need something that is open 6 days. Start time should be at least 6:00 pm but I struggle to find this. Do these type of nursery’s exist? What are the opening and closing hours for your nursery’s? Why don’t nursery’s take into account that some parents need to work 6 days 🤨?

I'd honestly sit down and do some actual calculations and work out what you'd be entitled to benefits wise if you worked less.

Childcare is so expensive, you're likely doing the second job just to pay for the childcare while you do the second job, especially considering the out of hours nature of it. Sounds like you're getting yourself wound up trying to find solutions that make no logical sense. In our area for hours you're looking at, if a nursery even covered them, i'd be surprised if you got change from £2500 a month. If you're saying you have to work two jobs i'd wonder if you're even earning that?

I had a colleague a few years ago jealous of my part time hours and moaning about cost of childcare and she had to work full time. I actually worked out for her that with her childcare bill she'd take home the same money if she worked 4 days and put her daughter in nursery one day less.

Also consider both you and your partner reducing hours. I know some couples work 4 days each and child has 3 days of childcare. If you earn similar this can work well.

Sit down, get your calculator out and work it out logically. Though if you're unmarried, dont quit working without being married first!

You can’t put a baby in a nursery for those hours and for 6 days a week? That is cruel. Find another way

This. Surely this cannot be the case you'd never see them and your child would b exhausted?

We both have two jobs or would not be able to afford nursery fees lol

It’s not very lol. You are both working two jobs for a nursery place that you haven’t found that exists, let alone have your child’s name down for?!

I would have spent my maternity leave doing other calculations!

What do the finances look like just working one job and having typical childcare?

What’s your household income with you working one job compared to two?

What’s your job? What are the hours/commute?

Did you consider what you would do about childcare when you got pregnant?

I think a live in nanny is probably your best option. Surely it’s financially better to need less nursery hours, not work two jobs? I also don’t think it’s fair on baby to be out from 5.30am to 7.30pm every day, a live in nanny would allot them to be in bed for the hours they need

I imagine people are suggesting it to demonstrate how unrealistic OPs expectations of childcare are. If that's the kind of care you want then you need to pay for it

Surely you can see that it's madness to get an extra job to pay for extra childcare?? Makes no sense to me.
Also, when you say you shouldn't be punished for having a job, I'm afraid that made my blood boil. Sounds to me like your child is being punished for you having a job.

I agree but it doesn't sound like she wants/is able to do that.

Op what qualifications do you have?
Is it possible to become a childminder?

How much do either of you earn per hour?
By the time you pay Tax, NI what do you have left to pay nursery which will be about £8 per hour.
Be careful you don't end up working for about £1 or 2 pound an hour.

It doesn’t sound like she is able/wants to do this either!

Just a simple google of live-in nanny salaries would put a stop to it as a suggestion. The fact that people think that this is an option for parents who work 2 jobs to afford a nursery is telling about what they think of the value of 'women's work'.

Nannies are professionals who are well-paid for their work.

https://uk.indeed.com/q-live-in-nanny-jobs.html?vjk=5ea65959d754e0f8

You'd be lucky to find a nanny who didn't mind having no life of their own.

I don't know any nurseries that open that early, nor childminders. Nanny seems like the only option if you have to get to work that early.

I work full time myself and DS is in childcare 45 hours a week but your hours are so long!

I hate to be judgemental but just can't help it here. I'm sorry. But why have a child and then want someone else to look after them 6am - 7pm 6 days per week?! Utter madness. Why work that much just to pay for them to be in nursery while you work? I don't understand it.

I knew live in nannies were a wild suggestion but thats crazy. Commonsense tells me two people working two jobs to make ends meet are likely to be low earners, little over NMW. Nanny was always out the question.
I'd also doubt they'd be able to afford a house with a spare room for the nanny either

But i didn't think a nanny could earn £45k. I was thinking £25-30k
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I mean we have a nanny for half the week and she's very good and professional and does just over hours and STILL every single bloody day is 'is she sick?Is she on holiday? How are we going to work around her doctor's appointment? What do we do when the kids are ill? Who is making dinner.'

It is a sight more expensive than nursery and marginally less difficult but it isn't the magic bullet people think. And ffs OP, those hours aren't on. We are just at the tail end of the childcare years having paid for three, including twins, so that every penny we have had has gone into childcare, but to be brutal, it doesn't work.

he only times we have really thrived is when one of us steps back for a time, so now we take it in turns. I did part time, now he does part time. We both accepted that we would equally have to rebuild afterwards and if that meant not having the same jobs in 3 years time then fuck it, you can't have everything.

What you are looking for isn't just hard to find, it's mad to consider.

If you are on a low income you should be able to get benefits help with 80% of childcare costs. If your income isn't low enough that you qualify for this help then you can afford to reduce your hours to fit in with nursery opening times.

Changing your start time so that you can drop off at nursery at 7am and get into work is definitely a reasonable adjustment that employers should be able to accommodate.

People are suggesting a nanny as it is the only feasible way to get the hours required!
The OP hasn't said what they earn and again it's all relative surely. She needs 2 jobs to pay the nursery but maybe because they have a massive mortgage on a huge house and fund 2 luxury cars. Indeed she doesn't want to leave one of her jobs as she may not get it again. Maybe this is a well paid role nut rheir outgoings are high.

Maybe if they gave more details the suggestions would be get rid of your Porsche and get a polo, downsize from your 5 bed regency house to a 3 bed semi. Then you don't need the additional job and you can afford your nursery

Full time minimum wage is nearly £24k, with a nanny you also have to pay NI and pension on top. So the cost is more than their salary.

And live-outs earn even more. Think about it, 30k for FT hours (nannies typically do 8-6 5 days a week) would equate to an hourly wage of £11.53, 10p above NMW. Nannying is not a NMW job, live-out jobs in my area are about £18-20 hourly. I do weekend work and charge even more per hour, that's my days off that I'm giving up

You are unlikely to find a nursery which will open from 6 a.m. simply because the demand for that start time is so limited. To open, the nursery will need a minimum staffing level so it doesn't make financial sense for them to have, say, two staff members and one child there. Surely both you and your DH don't need such an early start time? Could you not split drop-off and pick-up with both of you doing one end of the day?

Also I would seriously reconsider how your working life is going to pan out. I'm not sure if you were both working all these hours pre-child. If you were you must already have been quite tired so consider how fitting parenting into this routine is going to impact upon you. There is simply no point in working so hard only to be constantly run down and ill and have no time with your child. If your husband works Sat/Sun surely he must then have time off during the week when he can provide the childcare? If you are working so many days just to pay for nursery then can one of you not lose the second job? Have you worked out exactly what you may be entitled to in terms of any benefits which may help to make up some of the shortfall?

The earliest and latest I have seen are the N club nurseries. They are very expensive! But I believe the earliest they do is 7am. I have never heard of a Saturday nursery so would suspect you would need a childminder.

I don’t know of any childminders who would open these hours, either. It’s not worth them opening from 6am or on a Saturday morning for £6 odd an hour when they won’t be able to get any other children to be there as well. Would you work 6-7am for that much money? If you would-why don’t you become an early morning childminder!

Are you hoping to find someone to use 15/30 free hours with in these early morning/Saturday sessions as well?