nursery opening hours

[scottishgal09]

I need to go back to work so will soon be putting my 9 month old in nursery, only thing is that the earliest I can find any nursery open is 7 am to 7 pm. The 7 pm closing time is fine but I really find I need a opening time of 6 pm. I also work Saturday mornings so need something that is open 6 days. Start time should be at least 6:00 pm but I struggle to find this. Do these type of nursery’s exist? What are the opening and closing hours for your nursery’s? Why don’t nursery’s take into account that some parents need to work 6 days 🤨?

It sounds like you were not ready to have a child OP. It’s great to get back some of your life but throwing money at a nursery to care for you child almost all of the time is not being a good parent. You are deluded if you think it is. Your poor child.

Fgs stop talking about doctors. Very few will have childcare around their shifts. Female doctors often go part time or have partners who become the primary carer. Male doctors often have wives who hobble their own careers. Often they will use grandparents.

There is so way you personally care this much about the minutiae of this child’s evening, especially not when many children of working parents are picked up later than 5pm.

This whole thread is a bitterness, betterment and kicking exercise of a woman who enjoys working. And that’s all it is.

Exactly.

It’s made even more obvious with all of the guessing, ifs and assumptions right down to when baby naps.

Your moral judgement is not relevant.

The majority of babies collected at 5, are dropped at 8 or thereabouts,and would have 2+ hours and the half day " extra " with their parents.

So maybe 15 hours extra 🤷‍♀️

Don’t fool yourself into thinking everyone is working full time (or more). You know that’s not true. You need to reevaluate your priorities. What is your job?

This whole thread is a bitterness, betterment and kicking exercise of a woman who enjoys working. And that’s all it is.

Maybe for a few people who think a woman's place is in the house, but I think the rest are thinking the OP is being very naive in thinking this is what is best for a baby. It's fine to recognise it is not ideal but necessary, but the OP seems to think that nurseries are full of people who will love and care about her baby and whose goals are to enrich the life of children. Which we know they're really not. They're just money-making businesses that pay as little as possible for a minimal amount of staff who just want to get the day over with.

I didn’t say the majority. I said ‘many’. When you work a standard 9-5, you can’t do 8-5 nursery times.

This. You keep comparing yourself to doctors, which you're not. Why not try comparing yourself to a parent who actually wants to be with their child?
Will you be happy if they attach themselves to these mythical nursery workers and not to you who will only see them one and a half days a week plus bedtime?
It's alright wanting a career but you also have to live for now. No one regrets working all the hours there is but plenty regret missing out on their children's childhoods.
I don't see what you've got against childminders there's nothing wrong with children being in a home environment with other children. They get the socialisation plus more individual care and lots of toys and activities that you set so much store by.

This all just makes me feel sad for this child. Of course there’s a place for nursery, children can socialise and learn and be looked after by well trained people, and of course most parents have to
work and so it’s a useful resource. But this is extreme. Nursery can’t replace a family. Parents should be the consistency in a child’s life and their primary bond. I struggle to see when this poor child will even spend any meaningful time with its parents other than a Saturday afternoon and Sundays, this poor child is going to be shattered all this time in a nursery environment and won’t have any energy the rest of the week and will likely just need to sleep. I don’t see why anyone would have a child if they don’t actually want to raise them. Surely the choice doesn’t need to be all this time in nursery vs benefits, there’s got to be a better way than this. My husband and I both work, we need to, but we both changed our roles and shifts when we became parents so that our little one has a good balance of socialising in nursery a few times a week, with plenty of time spent with us the rest of the time. We both want to spend quality time consistent time raising our child, so we altered our working life to make that work.

@scottishgal09 if your job is well paid and good benefits etx - why do you think you won't find another one similar as a manager role

If you had posted 5 days in nursery you wouldn't have got half the lashing you did

The extra sat am tops people off. Can you give upthis day am job

You are aware that nurseries don't operate on a 1:1 basis right? Each staff member has more than one baby they're supervising. It's not abusive to pick and choose if they're all crying, it's necessity.

If you want one on one care you need a nanny.

Agreed and most adults who do work 12 hour shifts only do it 3 maybe 4 days. Not 5 and a half.

You need a childminder! Or you and your husband need to reduce your hours. it is madness to say you both need to have 2nd jobs in order to afford nursery and then want to have such batshit nursery hours. Why don't you both give up the second jobs and spend more time with your baby? And/or reduce hours at both jobs so you have more time with your baby at such a critical development stage?

You keep mentioning doctors - none of the doctors I know put their child in nursery for so long. The only person I can think of who was putting their child in nursery 7am-6pm was a super highflying banker and her husband worked reduced hours to enable her career, and they didn't use nursery at the weekend!

I'm pregnant and my husband is a doctor. He is reducing his hours from fulltime to 70% of fulltime for the first year of our child's life as it's such a critical time for babies to form attachments, and to develop and grow. The first 2 years are critical. Your baby needs its parents, not a nursery environment.

There is a reason people keep saying this to you.

What is your first job if your second job is restaurant manager?

Childminders have the same qualifications, work to the same regulations and often have superior resources to nurseries. When I was childminding I learnt Makaton, did puppetry, did specialist speech and language qualifications, forest school qualifications and many more.

Childminders accept children into their home and they often become part of the family. I'm honoury aunt to many children and still have them come visit me despite not minding for 2 years.

They are far better placed if a child is having an off day to adapt their curriculum to the child.

Our week consisted of music class, dance class, yoga, toddler groups, library visits, gymnastics, woodland walks and crafts. I am incredibly proud of the work I did with my babies so please don't be so rude about Childminders.

If your partner works Saturday and Sunday does that mean they have a day off during the week, or are they working 7 days a week because of their 2 jobs? When do you see each other, never mind having time with your DC? Do you both do early starts?

For some people, there is no option but full time child care.

If you are lucky enough to have additional support or can afford to work shorter hours, that is good for you. Not everyone can make that choice, no everyone wants to.

We had absolutely no support outside of childcare we could pay for. I feel very fortune that I had a partner splitting the mental and childcare load fairly. We worked condensed hours so DC were only in childcare for three days a week. It meant we hardly saw each other for years. Hats off to people working shifts or doing it all alone.

I don't mean this to sound harsh -but why have a child if you do not want to parent them?

If you worked less hours your nursery fees would be less.

What a nasty post!

I detest this attitude that I can only love or want my children if I want to spend all my time with them. Or that babies are somehow more important than any other stage of life.
No-one ever says this about fathers who work 6 days a week!
I love my children but I am not and never was a childcare expert or desired to work with children - especially babies.

My kids now are amazing and will be amazing adults....not least because we had the financial stability two full-time incomes provide and benefited from EXCELLENT nursery and CM care before starting school

It’s naive to think nursery hours are available for these times. It’s not naive for OP to have a preference for her child’s care, and that can be informed by many things. Some areas are more nursery heavy than childminder heavy. Some have excellent quality care with good staff retention and others don’t.

Without knowing the setting the child will be entering, the moral postulation on the worst of what the child ‘could’ enter is purposeless and only serves to kick OP about worst possible outcomes. In fact the largest available daycare study only concludes that slight differences in long term outcomes only exist for pre-18 months care and post-18 months care – and that difference got smaller the better the quality of the centre. The study also concluded that continuous use of one setting was associated with better outcomes than mixed care (half nursery, half relatives for example). Children from lower incomes were also found to benefit more than children from higher incomes. This is a 2017 by SEED.

My children went to care across three nurseries – two were quite standard and one was incredibly high quality. They still, four years later, have a relationship with their key worker there who cared for them very deeply.

Unless you or anyone else knows the details of the setting, it’s conjecture and it’s largely meaningless.

Oh FFS change the record

That would be a long at for a baby.

It's weird that some posters are dismissing the OP's job. I'm assuming they are looking down their noses because it's in hospitality. It's a job she seems proud of, enjoys, pays well and she can progress in.
Also, to the poster who questioned her upbringing, apologising for it being 'grim'. Perhaps the OP grew up in a house with her parent/s out at work all day, like I did and my children did when they were little (do shift work at the moment). Like millions of kids across the globe do. It is the most run of the mill way for a lot of people out there.
Not everyone has the luxury of being a sahm, working part time/condensing hours or family support. It is what it is.

Yeah you need to put your/your husband’s career on hold for a few years and do what’s best for your baby. Working hard at your job does not equate to a good parent - which is what you seem to think. + you’re not going to find a nursery that accommodates these hours anyway.