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nursery opening hours

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scottishgal09 · 12/06/2024 22:58

I need to go back to work so will soon be putting my 9 month old in nursery, only thing is that the earliest I can find any nursery open is 7 am to 7 pm. The 7 pm closing time is fine but I really find I need a opening time of 6 pm. I also work Saturday mornings so need something that is open 6 days. Start time should be at least 6:00 pm but I struggle to find this. Do these type of nursery’s exist? What are the opening and closing hours for your nursery’s? Why don’t nursery’s take into account that some parents need to work 6 days 🤨?

OP posts:
HuongVuong3 · 13/06/2024 16:51

scottishgal09 · 13/06/2024 12:04

Then why work in a nursery if you dont care about the children ? People trust workers in nursery’s with there child and this is the response you get.

You have really poor reading comprehension skills.(Along with spelling -it's 'lose' not 'loose' and you are using 'there' when it should be "their).

The poster did NOT say that they didn't care about children. They said they didn't love them like family do.

Of course a nursery worker doesn't love the children!

TossieFleacake · 13/06/2024 16:51

@scottishgal09

'Well educated people' are intelligent enough to know that sending a 9 month old baby to nursery for 60± hours a week will damage them for life.

Thats the difference between you and the 'well educated people' you speak of.

SouthLondonMum22 · 13/06/2024 16:52

LittleTiger007 · 13/06/2024 16:51

The op already works long hours all week Saturday morning is a second job. Her baby is only 9 months old so it’s very relevant.

It isn’t relevant when people keep fabricating that it’s 12-13 hours on a Saturday when OP clearly said Saturday morning.

Klippityklopp · 13/06/2024 16:53

You don’t have to sacrifice anything, you can have a career and a child too. Lots of people do it. There are long waiting lists for good nursery’s. Read some other posts and you will learn something hopefully

Op nobody is saying others don't use nursery full time but they sort their work hours round the nursery opening hours in order for them to work full time. Your working hours do not fit nursery hours so you will have to decide what you are going to compromise on, either find another type of childcare that will suit your working hours or change your working hours to suit the nursery.
Unfortunately what you are looking for really isn't available

LittleTiger007 · 13/06/2024 16:55

morechocolateneededtoday · 13/06/2024 16:03

As you want to keep referring to doctors - I am a doctor. Neither me or my colleagues (or any other doctor I know) put their child in nursery 11 hours/day for 5 days and then also in childcare on a Sat morning.

None of us even did 5 full days - we juggled shifts and DH work so they did max 4 long days at that stage.

Nursery workers maybe trained but all evidence firmly points towards a child forming a secure attachment with a caregiver under the age of 3 - if you have them in nursery 55 hours a week, there will not be a single staff member present across all those shifts. They do not socialise that young either.

You are deluding yourself this is best for your baby

100% delusional

Heyheyitsanotherday · 13/06/2024 16:56

I think the reason you’re getting a hard time op is that people are genuinely baffled why you’d want your child effectively brought up by other people 6 days a week. Meaning the time you spend with them would be an hour a day approx. However, each to their own. What I would say though is that those hours with nursery’s are few and far between (and unlikely for a Saturday) and that any nursery half decent needs booking well in advance. I had to book our nursery when I was still pregnant cos I know there’s a waiting list and that was for 2 days a week. Good luck with your search

LittleTiger007 · 13/06/2024 16:58

Klippityklopp · 13/06/2024 16:53

You don’t have to sacrifice anything, you can have a career and a child too. Lots of people do it. There are long waiting lists for good nursery’s. Read some other posts and you will learn something hopefully

Op nobody is saying others don't use nursery full time but they sort their work hours round the nursery opening hours in order for them to work full time. Your working hours do not fit nursery hours so you will have to decide what you are going to compromise on, either find another type of childcare that will suit your working hours or change your working hours to suit the nursery.
Unfortunately what you are looking for really isn't available

This is the point the Op refuses to hear. I have a hugely successful career yet I juggle to be home for my children as my husband does too because you have to do what is best for the child. Children go to nursery one day a week.

Nbobun · 13/06/2024 17:00

OP, my DS was in nursery full time from 14 months old. He was there 7.15am to 6pm Monday to Friday. I disagree with those who think it's wrong for a child to be in nursery so long. DS thrived there and he is now a very happy, confident 8 year old who is doing excellent at school.
I cannot describe how much benefit he got from being at nursery full time. Yes it was unusual for a child to be in nursery full time. But they do exist and some mums just value their career after childbirth more than others! I never regret going back to work full time. DH still does most school runs because of my work commitment, but we have quality time and fabulous memories together as a family. Having the financial flexibility will open so many more doors in the future.

However, I must say you will struggle to find a nursery that opens from 6am, or on Saturday mornings, unfortunately.

VJBR · 13/06/2024 17:00

Poor baby. He will survive rather than thrive being at nursery all that time. You are not putting your child first. It is all about what YOU want rather than what is best for him.

LittleTiger007 · 13/06/2024 17:00

SouthLondonMum22 · 13/06/2024 16:52

It isn’t relevant when people keep fabricating that it’s 12-13 hours on a Saturday when OP clearly said Saturday morning.

It IS relevant because nine month olds have a BIG nap in the afternoon. So Saturday morning when she and her husband could be engaged in quality family time with their baby … they are both working a second job. The baby is asleep Saturday afternoon… conveniently for these two for whom parenthood gets in the way.

FleetwoodMacAttack · 13/06/2024 17:01

Putting the views on this to one side as to level of nursery care, I’ve never come across a nursery that starts at 6am. OP will need a nanny/babysitter to come to the house for early drop off at the nursery. It’s surprising she’s not considering split early mornings with her partner.

LittleTiger007 · 13/06/2024 17:01

Nbobun · 13/06/2024 17:00

OP, my DS was in nursery full time from 14 months old. He was there 7.15am to 6pm Monday to Friday. I disagree with those who think it's wrong for a child to be in nursery so long. DS thrived there and he is now a very happy, confident 8 year old who is doing excellent at school.
I cannot describe how much benefit he got from being at nursery full time. Yes it was unusual for a child to be in nursery full time. But they do exist and some mums just value their career after childbirth more than others! I never regret going back to work full time. DH still does most school runs because of my work commitment, but we have quality time and fabulous memories together as a family. Having the financial flexibility will open so many more doors in the future.

However, I must say you will struggle to find a nursery that opens from 6am, or on Saturday mornings, unfortunately.

14 months is a lot older than 9 months. Developmentally this is crucial.

LittleTiger007 · 13/06/2024 17:03

TossieFleacake · 13/06/2024 16:51

@scottishgal09

'Well educated people' are intelligent enough to know that sending a 9 month old baby to nursery for 60± hours a week will damage them for life.

Thats the difference between you and the 'well educated people' you speak of.

👏👏👏👏👏 and those people have given their educated opinions here.

Nbobun · 13/06/2024 17:07

LittleTiger007 · 13/06/2024 17:01

14 months is a lot older than 9 months. Developmentally this is crucial.

Every stage of development is crucial.
Where do you draw the line?

My DS was not even walking when he started nursery, let alone talking (yes he was behind on those milestones but would you know now if you see him?) He hit all the major milestones when he was at nursery.

I was at nursery at 3 months old myself. My parents worked full time and there was no grandparents helping.

republicofjam · 13/06/2024 17:07

scottishgal09 · 13/06/2024 15:58

No I don’t. But i have done research like others, talked to friends, seen nursery’s and they are great for children. Lots to do, toys, games, puzzles, friendly workers. At home and at a childminder this is not the case. I am only looking for full time and Saturday. Not as many hours as possible.

I am sorry that your childhood appears to have been so grim that you have now concluded that practically living in a nursery is going to be a better choice for your own baby.

PoopingAllTheWay · 13/06/2024 17:08

Any good nursery manager / Team will tell you that the hours you want / need are to long for a child. 6am-5pm Monday - Friday and Saturday half a day is not realistic
That is very stressful for your child

You keep saying there is lots to do, puzzles and toys , and nice staff, that does not mean your child will be happy or that they will enjoy nursery. Nurseries also have children that cry all day long, and staff that arent fantastic or qualified
Bad things can happen in nurseries too and do, often!

I have worked in a fantastic nursery where ‘parents’ were putting there child’s name down before they were even pregnant

But some children still hated it.
Children want to be at home
Not stuck in a nursery for 60 hours a week
There are alot of part time staff and it wont always be the same person looking after your child, nurseries also have agency staff that the children dont know and this happens in every nursery

Also your child will change rooms and then be in a whole other room, with other members of staff, it isnt as straight forward and ‘loving’ like you think in this perfect world

Why cant you get a nanny? A nanny share? With a similar age child, they will have someone to play with ?

I have worked in nurseries as a trainee and worked up to management to being a nanny for multiple families, in family shares and single families
I have known many child minders too
All have good and bad

But regardless you are going to struggle with a 6am start and a Saturday morning so you may need to re-think your plans

How old is your child?

PoopingAllTheWay · 13/06/2024 17:10

The more i read your replies, the more i think this cant be true

UnbelievableLie · 13/06/2024 17:10

This post is surely a wind up as it's full of contradictions.

So you have a fantastic job with amazing benefits, that you will never be able to replicate... But they won't accommodate flexible/reduced hours (which is against the law btw) and you both need to have a 2nd job each to get by. Which is it?

Also, you won't use a childminder because you think checks notes that the toys and food in the nursery is better?!

Okay...

LittleTiger007 · 13/06/2024 17:11

SouthLondonMum22 · 13/06/2024 16:05

Exactly.

OP’s baby will be absolutely fine. As are many who are in nursery full time.

Saturday mornings aren’t going to suddenly make her baby have an insecure attachment.

Please research attachment disorders. Many people live full lives (years wise) with this and so they seem ‘ok’. But if they did not have a consistent cater in the first few years of life … they may when older be on a spectrum of attachment disorders. These include an inability to hold down a relationship for long, narcissism, drug and alcohol problems, depression and insecurity. There’s obviously a lot more to it.
So yes baby will appear ‘fine’. But secure early attachments with consistent caregivers who give quality loving care is worth its weight in gold and diamonds. It means secure personalities who can learn, love, give and have peace in their home. Secure infancy leads to happy children, secure childhood leads to happy, contented, successful adults.

republicofjam · 13/06/2024 17:12

LittleTiger007 · 13/06/2024 17:11

Please research attachment disorders. Many people live full lives (years wise) with this and so they seem ‘ok’. But if they did not have a consistent cater in the first few years of life … they may when older be on a spectrum of attachment disorders. These include an inability to hold down a relationship for long, narcissism, drug and alcohol problems, depression and insecurity. There’s obviously a lot more to it.
So yes baby will appear ‘fine’. But secure early attachments with consistent caregivers who give quality loving care is worth its weight in gold and diamonds. It means secure personalities who can learn, love, give and have peace in their home. Secure infancy leads to happy children, secure childhood leads to happy, contented, successful adults.

This!

LittleTiger007 · 13/06/2024 17:12

*typo above. Carer not cater. Obvs
multitasking… being with my kids … 🙂

morechocolateneededtoday · 13/06/2024 17:12

TossieFleacake · 13/06/2024 16:51

@scottishgal09

'Well educated people' are intelligent enough to know that sending a 9 month old baby to nursery for 60± hours a week will damage them for life.

Thats the difference between you and the 'well educated people' you speak of.

Well said.

The couples where both parents do work exceptionally long hours have live-in childcare so the child forms a bond with one person and this maintains stability. If you don't earn enough for this, either your partner or you need to reconsider your career choice

SouthLondonMum22 · 13/06/2024 17:13

LittleTiger007 · 13/06/2024 17:00

It IS relevant because nine month olds have a BIG nap in the afternoon. So Saturday morning when she and her husband could be engaged in quality family time with their baby … they are both working a second job. The baby is asleep Saturday afternoon… conveniently for these two for whom parenthood gets in the way.

Last time I checked, babies are different and don’t all have the exact same schedule.

Maybe OP’s baby has a big morning nap and they’ll be working while she’s sleeping anyway?

You have no idea when OP’s baby naps.

Scirocco · 13/06/2024 17:14

Realistically, those hours are going to be hard to find - a nanny might be as cost-effective and you and they could create a timetable that maximises socialising and learning opportunities. My DC does 3 days at nursery and 4 at home with either myself or DH, and they have an active schedule on their at-home days with groups, clubs, playdates, etc. Nursery isn't the only place a child can socialise and learn. You could even consider a hybrid option - nanny and nursery.

Another thing to consider is that, while people in caring professions do care about the people they work with, that's not the same as loving them. I care about the people I look after, but it's a job. I love my DH and my DC, and that's completely different. Nursery staff won't love your child the way you do, because it's a different type of relationship.

GreenMeeple · 13/06/2024 17:15

scottishgal09 · 13/06/2024 16:09

There are nursery’s that have places for a child to start right away but they dont offer the hours I need. I have help at the moment my aunt but she can’t always help, I need a plan for the future.

OP I think you need to accept that what you want, a one stop solution nursery just won't work for you. You need to look for a plan B.

Also you need to have a plan in place for illness. Nursery bugs are not a joke, all between November and Febuary at least one member of my family was ill. So it's not just your child that will get ill but you, your DH and your aunt will all get ill and will probable have it worse than your child. My son only had three spots because of hand, foot and mouth but my husband couldn't walk for a week. And a local nursery was closed recently for three weeks because of e-coli.

If your DH works Saturdays and Sundays when are his days off? What times is he going to work? It sounds like arranging childcare is your job but if you're both working 2 full-time jobs that childcare is also both your responsibility.

For Saturday mornings you will need to find a childminder or just someone you can trust and you pay to look after your child at your home (You won't find any nursery open on Saturday). If your a multilingual family you might want to get someone who speaks the other language so your child gets more exposure to it.

So if Sunday is your childcare day when is your DH's? Assuming he also works 5 1/2 days your child will only be going to nursery 3 1/2 days a week. So both you and your DH need to get your work to agree on two mornings each that you start later. If the same person that looks after your child Saturday mornings maybe they can also do your DH's morning and now you only need 3 days of nursery.