To find what’s happened to Michael Mosley quite anxiety provoking

[Glasto73lover]

It’s that idea of never really knowing what’s going to happen- the idea that we walk such a fine line in life. If you think too much about it, you probably wouldn’t leave the house.!

A close family member died suddenly and tragically a decade ago - literally dropped dead at home age 48 - something went pop in their head. So you genuinely don’t know when your time is up.

It’s that idea of a chain of consequence that can go so horribly wrong too- people always say ‘oh but you could get hit by a bus’ - stuff like this actually makes me really anxious. So many what ifs.

For Michael Moseley - a chain of probably inconsequential decisions may have led to his death- not having a phone on him, choosing to undertake a walk that in the U.K. is nothing but in that heat, was devastating and probably caused his death.

It makes me anxious that I won’t know if I am making those decisions - am I making sense? I think as I have got older, I have become more anxious and risk averse (thanks menopause) and as a result, you could end up not leaving the house. How do you choose a sensible approach? Not too much risk but some!

But I also want to live my life too!! I guess I find incidents like this quite difficult!

I guess always having a phone, not undertaking walks in intense heat in an unfamiliar place etc are the common sense points that will come out of this tragedy.

Aibu to find it anxiety provoking tho?!

He took an unnecessary risk which goes against all medical advice (ironically). Please relax and enjoy your life but don’t do anything stupid. I will miss Dr Moseley but he really did know better.

I got similar anxiety when the princess if wales got diagnosed with cancer. I thought if she can get it, anyone can. Money, lifestyle, great genes, healthy and fit. It doesn't seem to matter.
I feel the same with MM. Smart, educated, sensible and fit. It didn't matter.

I guess what this shows above all is our vulnerability.

Its the "what it's" that fill me with anxiety.

That was a speculative article posted before he was even found. Have a look at Google Maps.

I didnt criticise you for discussing it I said you are being a bit dramatic. This was quite foreseeable: it was not a random and.or a freak occurence. Even the mayor of Symi was aghast that he chose to carry on walking rather than have a cool drink in an air conditioned cafe once he had reached Pedi. He made very bad decisions. Nothing extreme about this at all to wararnt getting so worked up about.

Yes and I have also said that I am quite anxious and it’s made me feel more anxious.

You are literally hijacking a thread for no reason so if you don’t like it, please jog on and let those of us who want to have a discussion get on with it.

Well said.
The eleventy threads on this accident weren't enough. (Though they're equally insane with their magnifying glasses, conspiracy theories and map drawing)
Instead we needed another literally criticising the man and being furious with him for making them feel it could happen to them.
Jesus.

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/michael-mosley-missing-search-latest-greece-symi-missing-tv-doctor-bbc-b1162757.html

So I cannot find the exact quote but the Mayor said it was a two mile hike from Pedi to Symi town, in that heat it would have taken way more than forty minutes even if he had taken the direct route as it was over a treacherous mountainous region. I will try and find the quote where he states it would take a fit person three hours. It is not just geographic distance to factor in - the terrain and heat are very relevant factors. I highly doubt he could have made this in 40 minutes.

Eleftherios Papakaloudoukas, the island’s longstanding mayor, said: “We know he came through Pedi and then walked onwards towards Agia Marina, it is about two miles and a harder walk than from St Nicholas, If he did try and walk that way to Symi then that is a big mistake.

You have hijacked someone's death, so it's a bit rich to be mouthing off at anyone who thinks such threads are repugnant and tasteless.

Ha ha I am now 'hijacking' this thread because I don't agree with you? And I don't do jogging.

She hasn’t hijacked someone’s death. It has made her feel more anxious and she wanted to discuss it and it is a reasonable response to something that has featured heavily in the news over several days.

Jesus.

What is actually the point of a discussion forum like mumsnet then if we can’t discuss world events and how we feel about them?

Why click on threads you dont like?

There's a million threads on mn i dont go near, maybe i should click on them and slag off the op?

I think it's shaken people up a bit as all the coverage has given us a scary reminder that humans are still vulnerable to the forces of nature and the effect those forces have on our bodies.

There have been several hikers who have died of exposure tragically close to a trail that would have taken them "home". My old neighbour's sister loved to swim in the sea at a secluded beach, until one day her clothes were found but she wasn't.

I think you are right.

Your response is just really weird.

I post on a discussion forum that a public event has made me feel anxious - lots of people agree and have also come on here and discuss it and then you come along and slag off for having the discussion on a forum literally designed for it.

Luckily there are plenty of normal people
on here quite happy to just chat about it and not slag off the posters in personal attacks.

Well we agree on something as I find your maudlin focus on this unfortunate incident to be quite weird also.

Exactly what I was thinking!

I really liked him and made a point of listening to what he had to say. I am sure if he had been asked about walking distances in the heat he probably would have said don't do it, wait till it's cooler.

So to hear that he did something like this, with such awful consequences is deeply distressing but I am also very annoyed with him, even though I know that is irrational.

I think it's because it was an avoidable death. He made a couple of stupid choices that were, from our perspective, lunacy.

Such a shame.

Well I find all you emotionless ghouls that aren’t affected by world events pretty weird too tbh

I am now a ghoul as I don't agree with you? But yet I am the one who is making personal attacks. You have zero idea of what I am affected by so calling me an emotionless ghoul is indicative of your lack of overall awareness and perspective.

Hang on, didn't he suffer from a condition called transient global amnesia? That would explain a lot. Maybe not 'stupidity' then?

So why come on this thread then?

i have said something has affected me & you have been nothing but rude.

Seriously just go away.

Note to self - AIBU is there to initiate a debate and a wide variety of opinions. It is the very premise of this part of the site. You should have made it clear that you only wanted to elicit responses from people who agree with you (or put it in Chat).

I think you have to risk assess the things that you do in life. I don't think you can shelter away from them because of what ifs

I love running. I do it for my mental health and lowers my chance of cancer occurrence. So in that vein I'm reducing the what ifs of a mental breakdown and possible cancer. However I might get run over and die or have a heart attack whilst out. To mitigate those risks I wear a medical alert bracelet so my loved ones aren't spending hours trying to find me. I also have a treadmill so do some runs inside when it's hot. So basically in an activity that helps me in one way I offset the risks against it in another way.

Unfortunately MM took a few risks and sadly paid the price.

He had an episode some years ago I believe. It’s not an ongoing thing as far as I know and they wouldn’t know if he suffered another episode.

I feel bad because MIL always asks me to read his columns at the weekend in the Daily Mail and I got a bit fed up with it, find it a bit preachy and think it encourages her anorexic tendencies (she is always disappointed if it is not on fasting / calories

A few weeks ago I was thinking well maybe he might just have a heart attack or something and that will show her we are not infallible. Now this has happened

I have already had her going on about how she will miss him and his columns.