To find what’s happened to Michael Mosley quite anxiety provoking

[Glasto73lover]

It’s that idea of never really knowing what’s going to happen- the idea that we walk such a fine line in life. If you think too much about it, you probably wouldn’t leave the house.!

A close family member died suddenly and tragically a decade ago - literally dropped dead at home age 48 - something went pop in their head. So you genuinely don’t know when your time is up.

It’s that idea of a chain of consequence that can go so horribly wrong too- people always say ‘oh but you could get hit by a bus’ - stuff like this actually makes me really anxious. So many what ifs.

For Michael Moseley - a chain of probably inconsequential decisions may have led to his death- not having a phone on him, choosing to undertake a walk that in the U.K. is nothing but in that heat, was devastating and probably caused his death.

It makes me anxious that I won’t know if I am making those decisions - am I making sense? I think as I have got older, I have become more anxious and risk averse (thanks menopause) and as a result, you could end up not leaving the house. How do you choose a sensible approach? Not too much risk but some!

But I also want to live my life too!! I guess I find incidents like this quite difficult!

I guess always having a phone, not undertaking walks in intense heat in an unfamiliar place etc are the common sense points that will come out of this tragedy.

Aibu to find it anxiety provoking tho?!

I totally agree with you especially as Ive been listerning to his pod cast. Its really said but he really should have known better, he was an intelligent man so why did he do it?, was he trying to push hisself we will never know, but you never know whats round the corner but if you worry about it you would never get out of bed.

Perhaps while you’re there you can read up on the increasing issues Australia is experiencing with bushfires, droughts, floods, longer fire seasons. Or you could take a trip out to see the bleached coral of your sadly disappearing reef.

Or I guess you could just bury your head in the sand and mutter to yourself about it all being rubbish. What do the Earth’s scientists know eh, bunch of woke idiots trying to stop you eating burgers.

I don’t know why but the threads about Michael Mosley have bought some really odd people crawling out of the woodwork.

Yes OP I get it. When you get a bit older you become more aware of your fragility. All you can do is try and minimise the risks while still living and enjoying life. I think Michael Moseleys death has hit people hard as his whole life was lived with a focus on living longer, but through a couple of simple decisions he lost his life so easily. I wonder if his healthy lifestyle gave him a false sense of security. The scary thing is that whether we like it or not, no matter how much we look after our health, no matter how cautious we are, luck also plays a part.

Perhaps she doesn't want to come and is being polite. I can't think of much I'd like to do less than a 'girls holiday' or a 'spa weekend'.

And perhaps you could read up on the facts that the reef is flourishing, not disappearing.

We have always had fire and flood and drought. The longer fire season might have something to do with the stupid lefties banning burn offs and closing the fire trails in the national parks. You can’t even collect fire wood anymore, you have to leave it there until the next bush fire comes around and it goes up twice as bad as in the past.

The 4x4 clubs used to keep the trails open but now they are not allowed in the forests the trails have all over grown, fire trucks can’t get through so guess what?

And yes, too many lefty, teal, woke idiots interfering with the natural order of things and making everything worse.

But you keep beating the climate change drum and when you are sitting in the dark because your solar panels are not producing and there isn’t enough power in the grid because the idiots closed down too many coal fired power stations and they have outlawed nuclear, then you can blame who exactly??

And don’t be expecting to charge that electric car either, now we have smart meters they can switch us off just like that.

As someone said, his style of intermittent Fasting was initially someone else's idea and he made it his own.
Fair play to the man. Maybe he trade marked the 5-2? 🤔
All his Podcasts and tv shows are based around current or ancient theories.

This was his second stay with friends on Symi.
None of us know yet if he had made similar hikes before and what type of conversations or advice he had been given about the route?
Sure he made his own mind up though.

statistically speaking you’re very unlikely to meet some kind of strange and early demise. In terms of making the best decisions to keep yourself safe - people need to respect the heat. As an Australian I respect it, and I’m perplexed by others I know who have grown up around it who don’t - taking off for runs on 38 degree days and such. It’s very silly. People from milder climates need to be aware. We see a lot of drunk, crispy dehydrated Brits around here in summer. Alcohol makes heat all the more dangerous. Not that MM is in that category, but nonetheless, it’s a valuable lesson.

There is cctv of the end of his walk. Showing where he went.

You do realise that the way you make your own money is totally based off someone else's ideas, right? You didn't invent whatever it is that you do, and nor does 99.999% of the world's population. We all take other people's ideas and run with them. Fair play to him, he was a journalist and he made his money by popularising science for the masses.

So true! My dad was very active but had a bit of a pot belly even though he exercised daily. He had recently had a full medical check up which gave him a clean bill of health, yet he dropped dead at the age of 54. In the post mortem, they said he had a massive heart attack in his sleep. None of the tests he had previously showed he had a heart condition, I guess when your time is up, it is over. Till then enjoy life.

Ah you are outing yourself now as one of those conspiracy theorists. Did you have a chip inserted over the pandemic?

Deathrates in big cities in recent heatwaves have spiked. Climate change will be a factor in many of our deaths if it's not already. My mother died of a catastrophic stroke on the hottest day of the year in 2022. Sure there were other factors (AF and stress of living with my dad who had dementia - and she was refusing help) - but the trigger was the heat. No question. Doctor confirmed it.
Saying there'll be more deaths like MM's due to climate change is not scaremongering. It's fact.

But I get the general anxiety. me and DH are fit. DH is bordering on athlete fit at 63. But MM's death shows that sh_t happens. DH's sister is obese (is a GP) as is her her DH and children. i joke that they'll live longer than us and that will be annoying.

What a horrible thread. Hope his wife isn’t a mumsnetter.

I don’t know why any of you are shocked, you just not get out much. Work in trauma or A&E, this happens every day to anyone and everyone.

You could look at it the other way op and think that you might go at any time, so why not live your best life?

MM could have been sitting in bed and had a heart attack. Maybe it was just his time to go.

Carpe diem - none of us are getting out of here alive !

Thought provoking?

Yes. Always have the decency to accompany your husband if he says he feels unwell and wants to walk back to where you're staying on holiday when it's boiling hot and he's known to have previously suffered with diabetes and amnesia and he's 67.

If you do walk alone on a foreign holiday and your feel unwell and it's boiling hot, you're not familiar with all the routes, you're 67, you've previously had diabetes and amnesia and you're not carrying enough water and don't have a phone on you don't be so utterly stupid to set off without considering you might slip and fall, get lost or become more u well and need help. That's just incredibly dumb.

You don't know yet how you will die, so your confidence that you won't meet a "dumb" ending is based on nothing. Have some compassion in your heart, or at least fake it so you look like a normal person.

Exactly.... Mr Moseley died doing what he wanted to do, death happens very suddenly and unexpected to many people each and every day.

Life is fragile.

No one should be mad at MM, its just another very sad death among many others that happened that day.

I’m only on page 3 and I’ll already thinking this thread is a bit sick 😬

With enormous kindness, get help for your anxiety now. I have agoraphobia, I can’t leave the house most days because of the anxiety and fear I have. Don’t descend to this point, it’s so much harder to claw your way out

Ah yes the milk of human kindness flows deep in many posters.

The very essence of an accident is that they are avoidable, usually with a huge dose of hindsight.

Absolutely this!
Im getting on , health not the best but, we will never so anything if we worry to this extent, it is extreme anxiety and i get it, menopause n all. Preparation is key, a bag with necessities in if you go out, water, phone charged with 3 words app on it, protein bar, job done. Xxxx

It was the first thing we said to each other that his wife will spend the rest of her days kicking herself and being furious with him.

Interestingly it is a conversation we often have being big fans of trying to live healthily so that we can enjoy fitness into old age about the benefits of eating little & exercising lots of you are then going to loose your life or fitness doing something extreme and preventable (rock climbing, motorcycling, skate boarding, snowboarding/skiing, surfing in our case).

I've been profoundly shocked by his tragic death and how much his family and friends will miss him. Right now on holiday, returning home without him and always. He leaves an incredible legacy esp now either probably many people taking fewer risks like he did when on holiday in the searing heat.

I can find it really difficult at times. As anaesthetists we are often involved in the worst moments of people's lives - whether that be awful car accidents/burns/heart attacks/post cardiac arrest/bowel perforations etc etc. I think it's what makes a lot of anaesthetists health freaks (in combination with our routine work often anaesthetising to fix health issues resulting from years of self neglect)

You just have to try to not think too much as it gets you down and has the potential to prevent you having the good experiences in life

Posted before reading the thread but some of these posts are really insensitive! RIP