If anyone works in the nhs please can you shed any light on this holiday allowance?

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I want to know if my ex (Dd’s) dad is telling me the truth.

He says if he doesn’t use his holiday allowance then he doesn’t get to roll it over or get paid for it. Surely you get paid for holiday if you don’t take it?? That’s what’s always happened in my work but I work in the private sector in finance.

He is basically saying he hasn’t been able to take the leave and now will lose it and not be paid for it either. Is this right? He is a fellow if that makes a difference.

I’m not sure what you(or he) mean by being paid for it. Lots of employers don’t roll over leave. In that instance you get paid the same as if you had taken your leave - which I guess you could interpret as working days for free.

Not NHS and assuming different trusts have different ways of doing but in legal terms a minimum of 28 days must be taken and remaining leave over those days or some of those days can be carried over at employer’s discretion but they don’t have to. Not likely to be paid for them though.

I work in the NHS and in my trust we can carry over 5 days only and the rest is either use it or lose it.

NHS - we can carry over a maximum of 5 days

I have never worked for a company where if you don’t take your leave you get paid it instead, most companies allow you to carry over a max of 5 days. Otherwise it would be an operational nightmare.

There is a statutory minimum amount of leave an employer has to give an employee. Paying you instead of giving you time off is quite probably illegal and would be open to abuse by employers who didn’t want to allow their staff to take time off.

@Whatevershallidowithmylife he has a holiday allowance of 28 days but claims he’s not taken any any and now he will lose them and not be paid for them.

in my work if you don’t take the holiday by the end of the year you can either roll it over or be paid for the holiday you haven’t taken

Yes. I work NHS Scotland & we were told if we didn't use days we would lose them. It's at the managers discretion if they allow you to carry any over (mine doesn't) but I think if there are organisational reasons why you can't take your leave i.e. requests denied due to staffing they can make allowances. I would tell him to contact his union representative to find the best way forward.

I don’t work for the NHS but I do work in the public sector. If you didn’t take all your leave, you could - at your manager’s discretion - carry over up to 5 days. Anything over those 5 days and you lose it. You would absolutely NOT be paid the equivalent of what you lost.

The only time they pay you for leave not taken is if you are leaving, eg you have 3 days’ leave left to take, but you’re leaving so you get paid those 3 days.

To a certain extent he’s right, but it will depend on the Trust annual leave policy. In my Trust we have to have booked a certain percentage of leave by different points throughout the year and if you don’t you’re in breach of the policy and thus could lose some of your leave. Some can be rolled over but not much and it is at the discretion of your line manager. We also get an option to sell some of our leave back at times too.

@boozeclues if we don’t take our leave we can be paid for it instead. Seems the nhs doesn’t do this from the posts though

@PostItInABook so it’s not that you have to take it? If you didn’t book it you’d just lose it?

He is correct. Some trusts let you carry over 5 days but as a fellow unlikely as they are generally fixed term contracts.

Does it really surprise you that things work differently in the public and private sectors?

@AlanBrendaCelia ok thanks. So he could be right that he’s not taken the leave and now is going to lose it without being paid instead for it?

@FourEyesGood im not surprised or unsurprised, I just wanted to verify what he’s saying and he’s not exactly trustworthy

I work in private sector and if we don’t take our leave by end of year we just lose it, don’t get paid for it. If he’s been denied leave when he requested though and not actually allowed to take the leave then he should take it up with the union. If he’s just not tried to book it then tough

and quite alot of other companies dont either, seems its a perk with some more than others

@Lisapillar thanks. Would they care if he lost his leave then? Or just leave it to him if he takes it or not?

I'm NHS.
Were not allowed to carry any leave over and we lose any we don't take. No money to pay us for what we don't take. HOWEVER it's very unlikely we wouldn't take it as it's strongly encouraged and were regularly reminded how much we have left

It works same way in most private sector companies too, just not the one op worked for

Ok thanks everyone. Seems he’s told the truth potentially on this occasion

If it helps I absolutely don't agree with this policy I had TWELVE different requests denied due to staff sickness then was told I would lose my remaining leave so had to take a few random days that I didn't want. The main bugbear of this is that had I gone off sick during the dates I requested I would have got the annual leave back & been allowed to carry the days over. So if he has had sickness during the year he might have a few days he is allowed to carry over.

He needs to check his Trust’s annual leave policy as it varies. In mine we can apply to sell or buy annual leave but have to do this by a certain point in the financial year. We can also carry over a max of five days.

Yup, it's use or lose!

It's very much at managers discretion.
In our team can roll over 5 days, and be paid for anything over this, but only if have had requests for leave declined due to being short staffed.