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More than private school fees will be affected by VAT

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MyNameIsFine · 07/06/2024 14:30

Don't actually know if I'm being unreasonable here, interested to know whether this is true or not. Will the VAT on education also affect holiday clubs and afterschool clubs?

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Luio · 07/06/2024 21:09

Tax isn’t added to education in most countries in the world but now we are going to allow it, who knows what will be included in the future. If you believe in the principle of taxing education, then VAT should be added to all paid for education including university fees. I suspect people only really like it when it applies to other people though.

TheBanffie · 08/06/2024 06:00

Idrinklotsofcoffee · 07/06/2024 14:59

If Labour comes into power, its plan to implement VAT on private school fees might extend to holiday and after-school clubs, depending on their primary focus. Childcare-focused clubs could remain VAT-exempt, while activity-based clubs would likely be taxed.

The uproar stems from private schools currently enjoying charitable status, which exempts them from VAT—a benefit not available to state schools. Many private school parents are spreading misinformation to protect their interests, suggesting that the changes are an attack on aspiration and could threaten small schools. However, this argument overlooks that 95% of parents already pay VAT on similar services.

It's important to stay informed and not let private school parents mislead others for their own gain. Labour's policy aims to create a fairer system and redirect funds to improve state education.

Applying VAT only to activity clubs put on by private schools and not by other private providers is highly problematic- clear discrimination and open to legal challenge. Ditto trying to apply VAT to hot food sold in private schools but not elsewhere. Any legislation needs to be very carefully written otherwise it'll be in the courts for years. I don't have much faith in Labour getting this right first time given their vagueness so far.
Why should a dance class hosted in a private school be subject to VAT but not one in a private dance facility? It's the same service.

twistyizzy · 08/06/2024 06:57

Luio · 07/06/2024 21:09

Tax isn’t added to education in most countries in the world but now we are going to allow it, who knows what will be included in the future. If you believe in the principle of taxing education, then VAT should be added to all paid for education including university fees. I suspect people only really like it when it applies to other people though.

Exactly.
If you support the taxation on education as a principle then it is only 'fair' to apply it across the board.

CoffeeCup14 · 08/06/2024 07:26

TheBanffie · 08/06/2024 06:00

Applying VAT only to activity clubs put on by private schools and not by other private providers is highly problematic- clear discrimination and open to legal challenge. Ditto trying to apply VAT to hot food sold in private schools but not elsewhere. Any legislation needs to be very carefully written otherwise it'll be in the courts for years. I don't have much faith in Labour getting this right first time given their vagueness so far.
Why should a dance class hosted in a private school be subject to VAT but not one in a private dance facility? It's the same service.

If it's run by a private company hiring private school premises, the VAT would be based on the status of the company providing the lessons, not the venue. It's irrelevant that the venue is a private school (doubly so, because hire of rooms is generally exempt from VAT).

The case mentioned earlier, where a private school runs an after school provision which is open to other children would be interesting. I'm not sure how that would go. But VAT is complicated and there are always details to be worked out, and sometimes tested in court.

crumblingschools · 08/06/2024 08:18

@TheRainItRaineth state Academy trusts can claim their input VAT back. These academies also run nurseries where they charge fees for hours outside the funded hours. These nurseries provide education.

KnittedCardi · 08/06/2024 08:33

In what basis do VAT questions go to court? Prime example:

The court was adjudicated by Mr Donald Potter QC, who found in favour of McVitie's and ruled that whilst Jaffa Cakes had characteristics of both cakes and biscuits, the product should be considered a cake and not a biscuit, meaning that VAT is not paid on Jaffa Cakes in the United Kingdom.

TheRainItRaineth · 08/06/2024 09:19

crumblingschools · 08/06/2024 08:18

@TheRainItRaineth state Academy trusts can claim their input VAT back. These academies also run nurseries where they charge fees for hours outside the funded hours. These nurseries provide education.

I didn't know that about Academy trusts, but that makes sense. I'm not sure nurseries would count though the detail of the legislation will make a difference. I guess all nurseries/preschools are providing at least some education though they do exclusively serve children below school age. It's an interesting point.

Another76543 · 08/06/2024 09:55

MouseMama · 07/06/2024 18:01

VAT legislation is insanely detailed so the drafting change is pretty easy to just apply it to private school fees - which is what they’ve said they’ll do. I don’t think there’s any suggestion they will go after after school clubs or holiday clubs. While I don’t really support the policy they have been very clear about the objective.

It is insanely detailed, which is why it wasn’t drafted clearly enough to be able to know for certain whether a Jaffa Cake was subject to VAT. If they couldn’t even make that clear, they might struggle to cover all aspects of the education system. The education sector is a bit more complicated than a chocolate covered cake.

MyNameIsFine · 08/06/2024 10:07

Another76543 · 08/06/2024 09:55

It is insanely detailed, which is why it wasn’t drafted clearly enough to be able to know for certain whether a Jaffa Cake was subject to VAT. If they couldn’t even make that clear, they might struggle to cover all aspects of the education system. The education sector is a bit more complicated than a chocolate covered cake.

It's more like taxing organic fruit and veg or that expensive seedy type of bread you buy in a bakery. Is that even legal?

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MouseMama · 08/06/2024 11:47

Another76543 · 08/06/2024 09:55

It is insanely detailed, which is why it wasn’t drafted clearly enough to be able to know for certain whether a Jaffa Cake was subject to VAT. If they couldn’t even make that clear, they might struggle to cover all aspects of the education system. The education sector is a bit more complicated than a chocolate covered cake.

The complexity of that case was to do with whether Jaffa cakes are cakes or biscuits as they have characteristics of both.

Meanwhile I don’t think anyone is confused about the difference between a private school education and a state sector after school club or holiday club. And it’s scaremongering to suggest otherwise.

twistyizzy · 08/06/2024 11:52

MouseMama · 08/06/2024 11:47

The complexity of that case was to do with whether Jaffa cakes are cakes or biscuits as they have characteristics of both.

Meanwhile I don’t think anyone is confused about the difference between a private school education and a state sector after school club or holiday club. And it’s scaremongering to suggest otherwise.

How about state boarding school when parents pay between 10-20K versus independent boarding school? Any confusion there?

Another76543 · 08/06/2024 11:52

MouseMama · 08/06/2024 11:47

The complexity of that case was to do with whether Jaffa cakes are cakes or biscuits as they have characteristics of both.

Meanwhile I don’t think anyone is confused about the difference between a private school education and a state sector after school club or holiday club. And it’s scaremongering to suggest otherwise.

What about the difference between paying £18k for a state boarding place, or paying the same amount for exactly the same service to a private school? What about a private school charging for wrap around care provision? Is that different from a private provider charging for exactly the same service for state educated children? It’s really not that straightforward to draft legislation to cover every single eventuality and unforeseen circumstances. It’s even more difficult to draft legislation so that the same service only becomes taxable if a certain organisation provides it.

notbelieved · 08/06/2024 12:17

I think what is clear here is that the 'VAT on private school fees' policy is one which is going to open a can of worms which will impact e eryone, one way or another.

I have said for a while that I believed it would spend years in court before implementation. I might not be wrong, it seems.

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 08/06/2024 12:38

MyNameIsFine · 08/06/2024 10:07

It's more like taxing organic fruit and veg or that expensive seedy type of bread you buy in a bakery. Is that even legal?

I've no idea whether it's legal but I'm sure the law could be amended to make it possible. As I understand Value Added Tax (VAT) came in when we joined the EU, or rather its predecessor organisation, the EEC. In earlier times we had had a much simpler purchase tax on certain items, akin to a luxury items tax. VAT was more complicated. We had to comply with EEC regulations about what was and wasn't taxable. Now that we've left the EU we could change this. We already state that all businesses and organisations with a high enough turnover to have to register for VAT must add VAT to their prices for everything except certain specified goods and services. Some of the exceptions are exempt from VAT altogether and some are zero rated, which comes to the same thing for the consumer, but probably not for the business (it's a long time since I worked as a tax accountant!).

Basic food and drink are not subject to VAT. Hence the famous Jaffa cakes case - cake is classed as a basic food, chocolate-covered biscuits are a luxury food (don't ask me why, this makes no sense to me at all, but that is the law). It would be possible (and very lucrative for the lawyers in due course, no doubt) to draft a law that went into a lot more specifics about which foodstuffs were to be zero rated and which were VATable. Tesco Value zero rated, Tesco finest VATable, for example.

If the idea is to tax people who can afford to pay for something that not everyone can afford and that brings with it a potential lifelong advantage, where do we stop?

MyNameIsFine · 08/06/2024 12:49

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 08/06/2024 12:38

I've no idea whether it's legal but I'm sure the law could be amended to make it possible. As I understand Value Added Tax (VAT) came in when we joined the EU, or rather its predecessor organisation, the EEC. In earlier times we had had a much simpler purchase tax on certain items, akin to a luxury items tax. VAT was more complicated. We had to comply with EEC regulations about what was and wasn't taxable. Now that we've left the EU we could change this. We already state that all businesses and organisations with a high enough turnover to have to register for VAT must add VAT to their prices for everything except certain specified goods and services. Some of the exceptions are exempt from VAT altogether and some are zero rated, which comes to the same thing for the consumer, but probably not for the business (it's a long time since I worked as a tax accountant!).

Basic food and drink are not subject to VAT. Hence the famous Jaffa cakes case - cake is classed as a basic food, chocolate-covered biscuits are a luxury food (don't ask me why, this makes no sense to me at all, but that is the law). It would be possible (and very lucrative for the lawyers in due course, no doubt) to draft a law that went into a lot more specifics about which foodstuffs were to be zero rated and which were VATable. Tesco Value zero rated, Tesco finest VATable, for example.

If the idea is to tax people who can afford to pay for something that not everyone can afford and that brings with it a potential lifelong advantage, where do we stop?

Perhaps the cake thing is because it's too difficult to distinguish between a cake and bread?

The thing is, it's not just about luxury, is it? Gov taxes things like cigarettes and alcohol and sugary snacks, but not the things it actually wants us to buy. If people want to spend their money on organic veg, organic cotton baby clothes, avocadoes and posh bread, why stop them? We might laugh at them for being 'posh', but these things are ultimately good for our health and good for the environment.

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Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 08/06/2024 13:02

Yes, it's a can of worms as soon as you start trying to nudge people's behaviour in one direction or another. Decades ago my Grandma's GP told her she should take up smoking as it would help with her nerves. Not health advice you'd get nowadays! I often wonder which of our current behaviours will be regarded as horrific and obviously wrong in future decades. Avocado production is apparently very bad for the environment, so that's a prime candidate for a luxury tax.

Getting back to education, I mentioned above that there are a lot of fee-paying schools which either provide specialist education and care for children with SEND or they provide specialist training alongside education for children with outstanding talent in dance, music, sport etc. As these are such niche areas, and also obviously beneficial for the country as a whole, are they likely to be exempt from the VAT change?

KnittedCardi · 08/06/2024 13:03

Thing is, whether private or state, both are supplying education, therefore both should be treated equally. The legal case is sound.

twistyizzy · 08/06/2024 13:05

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 08/06/2024 13:02

Yes, it's a can of worms as soon as you start trying to nudge people's behaviour in one direction or another. Decades ago my Grandma's GP told her she should take up smoking as it would help with her nerves. Not health advice you'd get nowadays! I often wonder which of our current behaviours will be regarded as horrific and obviously wrong in future decades. Avocado production is apparently very bad for the environment, so that's a prime candidate for a luxury tax.

Getting back to education, I mentioned above that there are a lot of fee-paying schools which either provide specialist education and care for children with SEND or they provide specialist training alongside education for children with outstanding talent in dance, music, sport etc. As these are such niche areas, and also obviously beneficial for the country as a whole, are they likely to be exempt from the VAT change?

No they aren't. Kids with an EHCP will be exempt but the majority of SEN kids in private don't have an EHCP because there is no benefit to them currently having one. With the threat of VAT many are now starting the process of obtaining am EHCP.
Royal Ballet have raised concerns as they aren't currently exempt, same with RADA etc.
By the time Labour have realised all the exemptions there will be nothing left to tax!

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 08/06/2024 13:06

I did wonder that ...

Another76543 · 08/06/2024 13:13

twistyizzy · 08/06/2024 13:05

No they aren't. Kids with an EHCP will be exempt but the majority of SEN kids in private don't have an EHCP because there is no benefit to them currently having one. With the threat of VAT many are now starting the process of obtaining am EHCP.
Royal Ballet have raised concerns as they aren't currently exempt, same with RADA etc.
By the time Labour have realised all the exemptions there will be nothing left to tax!

The policy around EHCPs is still not clear. I’ve read different things. I’ve read that those with EHCPs will be exempt. However, I’ve also read the following (from Schools Week):

“Labour refused to confirm to Schools Week what the exact exemption is, despite multiple requests for clarification.
However, a Labour spokesman told the Telegraph: “Places that are funded by EHCPs for children with special educational needs will not have a higher cost as a result of VAT.””

Does that mean that only those where the LEA funds the place will be exempt from VAT? What about those with an EHCP where the parent funds the place?

Keir Starmer ‘snubbing special needs schools’ by ploughing ahead with VAT raid

Education leaders claim Labour figures refuse to meet with them to discuss the ‘unintended consequences’ of the plans

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2024/03/26/keir-starmer-accused-snubbing-special-needs-schools-vat/

Bigcoatlady · 08/06/2024 13:16

They can draft VAT regs fairly easily to include some but not all of the activities of private schools e.g. to include education but not wraparound care, and to exclude say catered meals. Likewise they can ensure HE services are exclued. HMRC do know how to draft VAT regs, they have some experience in it. Its not as if education is some highly specialist legal term which only admits of one meaning so if they apply VAT to some education services automatically everything else MUST be included.

It will no doubt still end up in tribunal and there will be weird edge cases because that's how VAT regs work - jaffa cakes are cakes not biscuits, a poppadum is a food not a snack because you're meant to put chutney on it before transferring it to your mouth etc. You'll get pre-preps arguing we only do formal ed for 5hrs aday and the other 5 hours kids are on the premises were doing VAT exempt childcare so the VAT can only apply to 50% of the fees. That's what I'd do if I was advising schools on how to minimise their VAT liability.

But the reason they are going for this not the charity status thing is they already did that with Charity Act 2003 when it was assumed the codified public benefit test in that would exclude most private schools from operating as charities. Instead the ISC v charity commissioners judgment in 2011 found in favour of a really wide interpretation of public benefit enabling a lot of schools to continue to operate as charities and enjoy those tax advantages.

It seems like most indy school parents don't know this but the way private schools operate in this country to purchase education for a really small sector of society (about 6%) is actually pretty much uniformly opposed on the left. All Labour governments want to get rid of it and always have. There are other countries which have more diverse indy school sectors with more like 20-30% of children attending, and parents paying top-up fees - Australia is like this for example. But these indy schools are usually religious and the top up fees are v low so accessible to a larger cross-section of society meaning the function of providing private schooling and even subsidising it is to enable access to education that respects religious values - not just bakes in social inequality. Our income based segregation within schooling is a huge driver of social inequality so the eventual closure of all private schools would be seen as a positive outcome for most on the left.

This is why all the arguments that this won't raise that much VAT etc because parents will remove their children are irrelevant. Parents removing their children is the point, on the left people want parents to place their children in state schools.

Private schools have huge advantages to staying open though, including that many but not all have charitable status giving them tax advantages that state schools do not enjoy. They also cannot simply be brought into public ownership - because of boring things like rights to private property under the ECHR and historically the right to run a business protected by the EU (which obviously no longer applies and has no parallel in English law). you will meet hardcore lefties who want to nationalise public schools - which is effectively what happened in the 60s when endowed grammars had the choice to become comps or become private in most LEAs. But legally it would be fiendishly difficult.

VAT however is a really easy win. No court can argue that the govt has the authority to decide what goods and services fall within the scope of VAT regs - that's clearly a policy matter. Leaving the role of the courts to decide the edge cases but not undermine the actual scope of the policy entirely.

If you understand that reducing if not ending private education is the unspoken aim of this policy its going to work perfectly well.

MyNameIsFine · 08/06/2024 13:18

twistyizzy · 08/06/2024 13:05

No they aren't. Kids with an EHCP will be exempt but the majority of SEN kids in private don't have an EHCP because there is no benefit to them currently having one. With the threat of VAT many are now starting the process of obtaining am EHCP.
Royal Ballet have raised concerns as they aren't currently exempt, same with RADA etc.
By the time Labour have realised all the exemptions there will be nothing left to tax!

And if the Royal Ballet School were exempt, that would be bizarre, right? Because the nation needs ballet dancers, but citizens who are good at maths, English and science?

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twistyizzy · 08/06/2024 13:19

Bigcoatlady · 08/06/2024 13:16

They can draft VAT regs fairly easily to include some but not all of the activities of private schools e.g. to include education but not wraparound care, and to exclude say catered meals. Likewise they can ensure HE services are exclued. HMRC do know how to draft VAT regs, they have some experience in it. Its not as if education is some highly specialist legal term which only admits of one meaning so if they apply VAT to some education services automatically everything else MUST be included.

It will no doubt still end up in tribunal and there will be weird edge cases because that's how VAT regs work - jaffa cakes are cakes not biscuits, a poppadum is a food not a snack because you're meant to put chutney on it before transferring it to your mouth etc. You'll get pre-preps arguing we only do formal ed for 5hrs aday and the other 5 hours kids are on the premises were doing VAT exempt childcare so the VAT can only apply to 50% of the fees. That's what I'd do if I was advising schools on how to minimise their VAT liability.

But the reason they are going for this not the charity status thing is they already did that with Charity Act 2003 when it was assumed the codified public benefit test in that would exclude most private schools from operating as charities. Instead the ISC v charity commissioners judgment in 2011 found in favour of a really wide interpretation of public benefit enabling a lot of schools to continue to operate as charities and enjoy those tax advantages.

It seems like most indy school parents don't know this but the way private schools operate in this country to purchase education for a really small sector of society (about 6%) is actually pretty much uniformly opposed on the left. All Labour governments want to get rid of it and always have. There are other countries which have more diverse indy school sectors with more like 20-30% of children attending, and parents paying top-up fees - Australia is like this for example. But these indy schools are usually religious and the top up fees are v low so accessible to a larger cross-section of society meaning the function of providing private schooling and even subsidising it is to enable access to education that respects religious values - not just bakes in social inequality. Our income based segregation within schooling is a huge driver of social inequality so the eventual closure of all private schools would be seen as a positive outcome for most on the left.

This is why all the arguments that this won't raise that much VAT etc because parents will remove their children are irrelevant. Parents removing their children is the point, on the left people want parents to place their children in state schools.

Private schools have huge advantages to staying open though, including that many but not all have charitable status giving them tax advantages that state schools do not enjoy. They also cannot simply be brought into public ownership - because of boring things like rights to private property under the ECHR and historically the right to run a business protected by the EU (which obviously no longer applies and has no parallel in English law). you will meet hardcore lefties who want to nationalise public schools - which is effectively what happened in the 60s when endowed grammars had the choice to become comps or become private in most LEAs. But legally it would be fiendishly difficult.

VAT however is a really easy win. No court can argue that the govt has the authority to decide what goods and services fall within the scope of VAT regs - that's clearly a policy matter. Leaving the role of the courts to decide the edge cases but not undermine the actual scope of the policy entirely.

If you understand that reducing if not ending private education is the unspoken aim of this policy its going to work perfectly well.

Still doesn't answer the question about why state boarding (where parents pay 10-20k) is now exempt but independent boarding isn't.
Where is the moral argument for that other than state boarding is an acceptable privilege but independent is an unacceptable form

MyNameIsFine · 08/06/2024 13:21

Bigcoatlady · 08/06/2024 13:16

They can draft VAT regs fairly easily to include some but not all of the activities of private schools e.g. to include education but not wraparound care, and to exclude say catered meals. Likewise they can ensure HE services are exclued. HMRC do know how to draft VAT regs, they have some experience in it. Its not as if education is some highly specialist legal term which only admits of one meaning so if they apply VAT to some education services automatically everything else MUST be included.

It will no doubt still end up in tribunal and there will be weird edge cases because that's how VAT regs work - jaffa cakes are cakes not biscuits, a poppadum is a food not a snack because you're meant to put chutney on it before transferring it to your mouth etc. You'll get pre-preps arguing we only do formal ed for 5hrs aday and the other 5 hours kids are on the premises were doing VAT exempt childcare so the VAT can only apply to 50% of the fees. That's what I'd do if I was advising schools on how to minimise their VAT liability.

But the reason they are going for this not the charity status thing is they already did that with Charity Act 2003 when it was assumed the codified public benefit test in that would exclude most private schools from operating as charities. Instead the ISC v charity commissioners judgment in 2011 found in favour of a really wide interpretation of public benefit enabling a lot of schools to continue to operate as charities and enjoy those tax advantages.

It seems like most indy school parents don't know this but the way private schools operate in this country to purchase education for a really small sector of society (about 6%) is actually pretty much uniformly opposed on the left. All Labour governments want to get rid of it and always have. There are other countries which have more diverse indy school sectors with more like 20-30% of children attending, and parents paying top-up fees - Australia is like this for example. But these indy schools are usually religious and the top up fees are v low so accessible to a larger cross-section of society meaning the function of providing private schooling and even subsidising it is to enable access to education that respects religious values - not just bakes in social inequality. Our income based segregation within schooling is a huge driver of social inequality so the eventual closure of all private schools would be seen as a positive outcome for most on the left.

This is why all the arguments that this won't raise that much VAT etc because parents will remove their children are irrelevant. Parents removing their children is the point, on the left people want parents to place their children in state schools.

Private schools have huge advantages to staying open though, including that many but not all have charitable status giving them tax advantages that state schools do not enjoy. They also cannot simply be brought into public ownership - because of boring things like rights to private property under the ECHR and historically the right to run a business protected by the EU (which obviously no longer applies and has no parallel in English law). you will meet hardcore lefties who want to nationalise public schools - which is effectively what happened in the 60s when endowed grammars had the choice to become comps or become private in most LEAs. But legally it would be fiendishly difficult.

VAT however is a really easy win. No court can argue that the govt has the authority to decide what goods and services fall within the scope of VAT regs - that's clearly a policy matter. Leaving the role of the courts to decide the edge cases but not undermine the actual scope of the policy entirely.

If you understand that reducing if not ending private education is the unspoken aim of this policy its going to work perfectly well.

Unspoken? Of course their aim is closure. I didn't know that was a secret! 😂

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Another76543 · 08/06/2024 13:30

Bigcoatlady · 08/06/2024 13:16

They can draft VAT regs fairly easily to include some but not all of the activities of private schools e.g. to include education but not wraparound care, and to exclude say catered meals. Likewise they can ensure HE services are exclued. HMRC do know how to draft VAT regs, they have some experience in it. Its not as if education is some highly specialist legal term which only admits of one meaning so if they apply VAT to some education services automatically everything else MUST be included.

It will no doubt still end up in tribunal and there will be weird edge cases because that's how VAT regs work - jaffa cakes are cakes not biscuits, a poppadum is a food not a snack because you're meant to put chutney on it before transferring it to your mouth etc. You'll get pre-preps arguing we only do formal ed for 5hrs aday and the other 5 hours kids are on the premises were doing VAT exempt childcare so the VAT can only apply to 50% of the fees. That's what I'd do if I was advising schools on how to minimise their VAT liability.

But the reason they are going for this not the charity status thing is they already did that with Charity Act 2003 when it was assumed the codified public benefit test in that would exclude most private schools from operating as charities. Instead the ISC v charity commissioners judgment in 2011 found in favour of a really wide interpretation of public benefit enabling a lot of schools to continue to operate as charities and enjoy those tax advantages.

It seems like most indy school parents don't know this but the way private schools operate in this country to purchase education for a really small sector of society (about 6%) is actually pretty much uniformly opposed on the left. All Labour governments want to get rid of it and always have. There are other countries which have more diverse indy school sectors with more like 20-30% of children attending, and parents paying top-up fees - Australia is like this for example. But these indy schools are usually religious and the top up fees are v low so accessible to a larger cross-section of society meaning the function of providing private schooling and even subsidising it is to enable access to education that respects religious values - not just bakes in social inequality. Our income based segregation within schooling is a huge driver of social inequality so the eventual closure of all private schools would be seen as a positive outcome for most on the left.

This is why all the arguments that this won't raise that much VAT etc because parents will remove their children are irrelevant. Parents removing their children is the point, on the left people want parents to place their children in state schools.

Private schools have huge advantages to staying open though, including that many but not all have charitable status giving them tax advantages that state schools do not enjoy. They also cannot simply be brought into public ownership - because of boring things like rights to private property under the ECHR and historically the right to run a business protected by the EU (which obviously no longer applies and has no parallel in English law). you will meet hardcore lefties who want to nationalise public schools - which is effectively what happened in the 60s when endowed grammars had the choice to become comps or become private in most LEAs. But legally it would be fiendishly difficult.

VAT however is a really easy win. No court can argue that the govt has the authority to decide what goods and services fall within the scope of VAT regs - that's clearly a policy matter. Leaving the role of the courts to decide the edge cases but not undermine the actual scope of the policy entirely.

If you understand that reducing if not ending private education is the unspoken aim of this policy its going to work perfectly well.

“Unspoken” aim?! I’d say 100% of private school parents are fully aware of the hatred of the Labour Party towards the sector and their desire to destroy it. The Party voted to abolish private schools entirely in 2019. Many of those who voted in favour of that policy (Reeves and Rayner for example) are senior members of the Party.

The only misunderstanding regarding this policy is from those who think that the VAT policy is about raising money for the state system. It isn’t. It’s about harming the sector. The Labour Party make no secret of their desire to destroy it entirely.