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To ask if you will actually vote?

237 replies

IdontlikePinaColada · 06/06/2024 21:30

Not asking who you're voting for, but are you actually going to make the effort of voting (by going to the polling station on the day or postal vote)?

Am on the app so voting options don't seem to be available.

OP posts:
TheOneWithUnagi · 07/06/2024 13:33

FrogandTrumpet · 07/06/2024 13:19

All this spoiling the ballot paper nonsense - I’ve been at counts, trust me, no one gives a shit.

Yep! Complete waste of time, may as well just stay at home.

ChocolateTeapot208 · 07/06/2024 13:34

No point in voting

TheOneWithUnagi · 07/06/2024 13:35

ChocolateTeapot208 · 07/06/2024 13:26

No there is no point in voting. I hate the conservatives but the only reason Labour is winning is because the conservatives are hated over what theyve done.

I would consider voting again if we had a possibility of not just being labour or conservative. The country needs to dry something different. Yes I dont get spoiling ballot paper either, wasting your time no one cares like the government dont

Whoever gets in, I will still

  • Struggle to heat in winter
  • Not afford a yearly holiday
  • Have to work long hours full time
  • Be taxed to pay for people who have children when I am single and get no help
  • See people in government make the same amount of money I will make in 10 years in like 6 months.

Look at what's happened over the last few years, PMs breaking their own rules, crashing the economy and yet they are all too rich to feel any real pain from it.

Edited

Vote for one of the smaller parties then. Unless they get a certain % of the vote they lose their £500 deposit.

ChocolateTeapot208 · 07/06/2024 13:38

@TheOneWithUnagi It doesnt matter. £500 to them is like 5 pence to me its nothing. As I said voting is a pointless waste of time.

ChocolateTeapot208 · 07/06/2024 13:39

@TheOneWithUnagi and I vote for them it doesnt change anything because the country just seems to think its best to keep switching between labour and conservative every 10-20 years....

ScarletWitchM · 07/06/2024 13:44

Yes, as a woman the fact we are able to vote thanks to the women before us that fought for this right (including my great, great grandmother who was a suffragette) means that even if you spoil your ballot, you should still use your vote.
vote tactically if you need to - there are numerous websites to check how to do this for your constituency. But don’t waste your democratic right

ScarletWitchM · 07/06/2024 13:46

Spoiled ballots / votes still have to be counted - so even if you go and spoil the paper it is more of a protest than not voting at all

ChocolateTeapot208 · 07/06/2024 13:47

@ScarletWitchM I get what you saying but I used one of those websites and it said conservative and there is no way I am voting conservative when they are facing no consequences over what they have done

People think voting them out will do anything? Rishi Sunak is a billionaire! They earn more in 6 months than I do in 50 years

They wont ever feel any real pain they are too rich too.

Temushopper · 07/06/2024 13:49

FrogandTrumpet · 07/06/2024 13:19

All this spoiling the ballot paper nonsense - I’ve been at counts, trust me, no one gives a shit.

You think if every single person in the country who currently doesn’t vote went and spoilt their ballot instead that wouldn’t send any kind of message/wouldn’t be picked up by the press as a thing?

ScarletWitchM · 07/06/2024 13:50

In my recent local mayoral election only 36% of the constituency voted. The winner had 51% of that vote. Had more people voted that might have had a better outcome for the winner, or had a different winner.
make your vote count

ChocolateTeapot208 · 07/06/2024 13:51

@Temushopper it might its unlikely to ever happen, you see on news some people are loyal to conservatives no matter what they do so pointless to speculate

ChocolateTeapot208 · 07/06/2024 13:52

@Temushopper even if they did, the small amount that voted theyd just take that as the result and come out with some rubbish "well everyone had the option to vote if they wanted to" or something like that

AgentJohnson · 07/06/2024 13:57

No. I’ve been a resident of the Netherlands for 24 years and therefore I am not allowed to and because I don’t have Dutch nationality, I can’t vote here either (accept for council and water elections)).

SpinyNorma · 07/06/2024 14:01

AgentJohnson · 07/06/2024 13:57

No. I’ve been a resident of the Netherlands for 24 years and therefore I am not allowed to and because I don’t have Dutch nationality, I can’t vote here either (accept for council and water elections)).

The fifteen year limit was abolished earlier this year. If you still have British citizenship and you lived in the UK at one point then you can vote again.

UtterlyOtterly · 07/06/2024 14:03

I feel very, very strongly that everyone should vote, especially women.

Having said that there is no party I want to give my support to. So I am not quite sure what I will do. We might have an Independant candidate with policies I agree with.

TheRomanticOutlaw · 07/06/2024 14:10

ScarletWitchM · 07/06/2024 13:44

Yes, as a woman the fact we are able to vote thanks to the women before us that fought for this right (including my great, great grandmother who was a suffragette) means that even if you spoil your ballot, you should still use your vote.
vote tactically if you need to - there are numerous websites to check how to do this for your constituency. But don’t waste your democratic right

Absolutely this. People fought so hard for the right to vote. Not just for women, but before that the right to vote for all ordinary people, as in those who were not wealthy landowners- so the majority of the population. The Chartist movement of the 1830s/1840s for example was pushing for universal sufferage for men. I always feel aware of how lucky I am to have the opportunity to vote because those people and if I didn't do it I'd feel I'd squandered something they really wanted and deserved.
Yes, ok, our FPTP system isn't great, I pretty much end up voting tactically rather than for a party that most aligns with my values, but I'm not gonna just NOT vote. Or say 'my vote doesn't matter' or 'they're all the same'. If everyone did that, it absolutely WOULD matter, wouldn't it?!

NoWordForFluffy · 07/06/2024 14:14

ScarletWitchM · 07/06/2024 13:46

Spoiled ballots / votes still have to be counted - so even if you go and spoil the paper it is more of a protest than not voting at all

And checked to make sure they can't be counted as a vote (albeit accidentally!).

NoWordForFluffy · 07/06/2024 14:16

ChocolateTeapot208 · 07/06/2024 13:38

@TheOneWithUnagi It doesnt matter. £500 to them is like 5 pence to me its nothing. As I said voting is a pointless waste of time.

That's not true for independents especially. They're just people standing on principle. Find an indie to vote for, I'd say.

pigsDOfly · 07/06/2024 14:17

Yes, will definitely vote.

No good moaning about the government you end up with if you make no effort to go out and vote for someone who, very possibly, might do a better job. And tbh it would be hard for any party to do a worse job, or be more self serving, than the lot we've got at the moment.

TizerorFizz · 07/06/2024 14:26

No party aligns with my values. They lurch to the right or left with policies I will not support. I’m not voting for parties who have deeply entrenched views I very much dislike. Until they ditch the extreme policies I am not voting. I’m glad I’m on holiday. I’m already fed up listening to the political jousting every day. Very little about how anything will be improved just a list of goals. I could write that! It’s not good enough. Plus we cannot afford all they want. No chance. Everyone to get more pay. The modest tax changes are nowhere near enough. NIMBYs will be asked to have houses. Again. It’s been tried. We are going to train up care workers? Who are these saints we don’t know about? It’s all rhetoric and not achievable. Until there’s honesty ,the Ifs says we are all being duped, they don’t deserve my vote. The votes for women is in the past. I’m voting now.

FrogandTrumpet · 07/06/2024 16:38

ScarletWitchM · 07/06/2024 13:46

Spoiled ballots / votes still have to be counted - so even if you go and spoil the paper it is more of a protest than not voting at all

Respectfully, it isn’t.

No one pays any attention to the spoiled ballots, beyond counting them.

Its actually more of a statement to not turn up (even though I don’t advocate that) because at least some attention is paid to turnout.

fussychica · 07/06/2024 17:05

Of course. I consider it a privilege to be able to do so. People died in the fight to get the vote so why would I not.
We Remainers lost the Brexit vote largely because many young people couldn't be bothered to vote.

Isitsixoclockalready · 07/06/2024 17:06

IdontlikePinaColada · 06/06/2024 21:30

Not asking who you're voting for, but are you actually going to make the effort of voting (by going to the polling station on the day or postal vote)?

Am on the app so voting options don't seem to be available.

Without a doubt. Never been so motivated to vote.

Redshoeblueshoe · 07/06/2024 21:33

Actually when we had the first Police Commissioner ballot in Manchester - I and many others spoilt our ballot papers, it was a very large number, and it was reported on in the local news. After that Andy Burnham decided he would pick his mates choose the new person, so it became the role of the deputy mayor. Very clever move. If she cocks up, he can blame her.

DonnaBanana · 09/06/2024 18:17

Temushopper · 07/06/2024 13:49

You think if every single person in the country who currently doesn’t vote went and spoilt their ballot instead that wouldn’t send any kind of message/wouldn’t be picked up by the press as a thing?

Yes but that’s never going to happen. A large number of spoilt ballots is as equally unlikely as a majority of people not voting. Therefore if you have no one to vote for, just don’t vote. The system will keep going without your vote because “what if everyone did the same as you” is total nonsense.