to suggest that every single parent with a child at private school apply for a state school place asap?

[sarjd]

let's see how that works.

You mean 'every parent', not 'every single parent', I think..........do you think it's a responsible, ethical idea? No..........

Yep

Even the heaviest tutoring can only do so much. They may well still lose out to a bright state educated child. Particularly as only a small percentage of the population ever get educated privately.

Honestly comments like this assuming private school children will all just take up those spaces actually feel a bit embarrassing. There are plenty of very averagely intelligent children at my children's private schools.

That's just not how this works. And most of the constraint on the state is due to the Tories absolutely blasting a hole in the economy

I’m sure not all of them will get places - I’m just saying that’s what their plans are.
Presumably Labour would like to get rid of grammar schools too at some point as they are also inherently unfair and with Labour it’s always a race to the bottom.

Again, you’re just confirming my decision.
Drop it so quickly? I’ve been doing it for well over a decade. That’s not virtue signalling.
You see - contempt.
Sure, I’m awful. Totally awful. All that time spent and yet I’m awful.

If you are in the UK, can we please use ‘waiting list’ and not ‘wait list’. Schools in the UK have a waiting list. Ta very much m’lords and m’ladies.

@Sunhatweather making that satement clearly outlines you as a fairweather/performative charity donor/community member.

Plenty of us pay high taxes and still contribute to our communities and give to charity. Your post was rather churlish.

This is hilarious.

Go on. Do it. I double dare you no returns.

Our local school just closed. 180 places. 15 children attending and NO applications for September.

Theres plenty of space.

I think you’ll find there are other constraints, likely growing. And yes it’s how it works why wouldn’t it be?

" All that time spent and yet I’m awful."

That is not what is awful, what is awful is that a slightly higher cost on one of your privileges causes you to churlishly drop any charity or community work, it does indicate your charity was conditional on you getting something from it.

That is what is awful.

Do you use state school or private?

Possibly - but then after years of doing all this, I’m exhausted and pissed off with the situation. The rest is just practical trimming of costs.

That’s a great idea. It really is. Every child that goes into a state school comes with £££s of funding attached to them. 4 children fund for example a full time teacher who can teach a class of 30. So the more children that are in state schools, the more funding the schools generally get. It would be good news for schools.

anybody who understand how schools are funded will appreciate this. It really would be the best thing that could happen. Admittedly but in all one go, but if more private school kids moved to the state sector, the state decorator we like see a funding boost.

bravo for your suggestion!

That's fine. You do you. But it's your own personal decision that has very little in reality to do with the tax.

Or maybe I’m just fed up with giving and then being told I’m ’privileged’. I’m definitely entitled to be ‘done’ with it all. I didn’t need to do any of it, I did it because I cared.

Of course. You are an electoral prop

Not many want to be. I don’t see others on the thread saying yes I’ll take a 20% tax for Starmer’s polling

It’s someone else, that’s great

Not that it will do much, maybe negative

The Tories choose "austerity".

They choose not to tax the billionaires, they choose to bung vast amounts to their mates. There are other ways of raising money and investing in public services. Even the most superficial study of politics and economics would tell you that. That is literally how politics work. Yes the Tories will have labour in a tight corner thanks to Truss's brief and deranged period as PM in particular, but a lot of the austerity is a conscious choice by this government. It always has been

But it actually does. You can’t really speak for me and my motivations. It’s a personal decision precipitated by the support for the tax.

What did you expect reactions to be to your rant? Panicked calls to labour HQ to cancel their policy because Sunhatweather is going to stop running choir practice on a Tuesday?

Of course you shouldn't keep doing all that volunteering if you are burnt out. But linking it to this is just odd.

We all have times in life when we are able to volunteer lots , and times when we can do less. The world keeps spinning. Do it while it works for you, but being a martyr about it isn't good for anyone

Well you certainly aren't the squeezed middle.

Do what you want. Just don’t be entitled about it. Once you are in the system the same rules apply to you as everyone else.

Behavioural economics

For @WindsurfingDreams too. It helps with tax policy

Sure 🤷🏻‍♀️ Go ahead. I’m sure you’ll love the state sector.

Actually there is no cap on Child benefit - it is paid for all children unless household income is too high

My main point however on this topic - this is a mean-spirited move by labour driven by their stance on levelling down.

The parents affected are in a bind - on the one hand they will have to cut back to afford the VAT and secondly it would be very hard on the students being affected by this mid-way through their GCSE or A level studies who will be punished because they cannot complete the course in their chosen subjects - not as simple as move to a state school who may very well not offer the same subjects!

There goes their future university education as well as the possibility of failing to get the required GCSEs or A levels.

Given this is a parenting site - I could have expected more support for the devastating effect this may have on the children who stand to suffer most.