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Feeling that I will never belong anywhere because I am mixed race.

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thisplaceiscraziness · 01/06/2024 13:02

Off the back of another thread I thought it of interest to ask here on experiences of being mixed race or how you see mixed race people . I often feel like I don’t belong in any community.
I feel judged for not being enough of one race or another.

Seen as black but not accepted as such by the community due to being lighter skinned. Often being rejected or seen as trying to be black.

Not feeling like the white community fully accept me, exclusion from social events or conversations or worse, being hounded by assumptions and the idea that it’s ok to talk to me about race or immigration in an offensive way as i’m mixed and 3rd generation.

I experience racism & exclusion for being black and the same for not being black enough.

I shamefully veer from immersing myself in black culture/ politics to avoiding it for feeling stupid or like an imposter.

I don’t know where else I can ask anonymously and get honest responses.

I have realised am 35 and don’t know where I belong. I have 4 children and don’t want to pass this lack of self worth on to them.

Can anyone relate or tell me how you view mixed race people?

OP posts:
NoCarbsForMe · 28/03/2025 06:12

Have you read Brit (ish) by Afua Hirsh op? It’s excellent and might help you unpick your feelings x

ConkerGame · 29/03/2025 07:54

LePetitMaman · 03/11/2024 22:13

I'm 1/4 each of: England, France, Iran, Barbados. I'm fortunate that through pot luck genetics I was viewed as very attractive and this fickle reason meant I wasn't bullied like the other mixed race people I knew were, but still remember very clearly my cousin, aged just 9 telling me "imagine if you were white, then allllll the boys would fancy you"

If only I had a pound for every exchange that went:

"Where are you from?"
Norfolk
"No, but like where are you from "
Um... still Norfolk, I don't really know what to tell you
"Greek?"
Sorry, what?
"Greek, yeah? No, wait... Egyptian?"
What me? No...
"Spain? Portugal?... Wait! Got it!! Brazil?"
Please stop naming countries at me.
"Sorry, but you're just so....exotic?"
Exotic?
"Oh, no, I didn't mean in a bad way. Am I right though? Brazil?"

In one night out, I was told, by entirely separate men, (via shit chat up lines) that has anyone ever told me I look just like:

Kelly Brook. Beyonce. Melanie Sykes. Samantha Mumba. Shilpa Shetty

Because brown. All look identical really. My friends were in hysterics about it though. I laughed along "yeah, Shilpa Shetty and Samantha Mumba, how stupid are these guys" but inside, it hurts. Just another non descript brown girl. If you're not white, then you basically fall into the rest of the world category. "General brown."

I have twins. One olive skin, dark eyes like me. One whiter than snow, blue/green eyes (courtesy of DH) and you can see the village idiots cogs turning as both children call me mummy.

I don't fit in. Our very naice area, the white yummy mummy crew look at me suspiciously. And I'm not evidently black enough for the black mums at school, who honestly seem to have the best friendship group and I'd love to be part of. They smile at me and make small talk, but I can tell they don't see me as the same. Everyone is polite, but I just don't slot instantly into a group like others seem too.

And I do get how people think mixed race people unnecessarily gravitate towards their black heritage - it's not that you are disregarding any of your genetics that is white, but white society tends to see white, and then any tiny hint of anything else, as non white. So you're either fully white, or you're not at all, so to speak. So you kind of completely discount yourself as white. The problem then, as others are pointing out too, arises when you aren't black enough to be seen as black, so you float in this no man's land.

It's strange when I sit and wonder what my daughter's life will be like. If she'll find it so much easier than her brother because she's visibly white.

Please excuse my ignorance here, but with the “where are you really from” comments, why don’t you just say “my dad is half Iranian and my mum is half from Barbados”? You know that’s what they’re asking - what is your genetic background. I’m sure they can accept that you were born and raised in England but the fact is that you aren’t white because you have a mixed heritage. Why aren’t you comfortable just saying that?

I guess I’m coming at it from the angle that my grandfather was Italian and although I’m technically white, I do go quite dark in the summer, so I get similar questions and I just say, yes my grandfather’s family was from Italy. I don’t have any strong connection to the country or culture as he died before I was born and my dad’s not that fussed about it, but I’m happy to share the fact of being mixed heritage.

sincere apologies if this is an offensive question - I just don’t understand the issue?

LePetitMaman · 29/03/2025 09:00

ConkerGame · 29/03/2025 07:54

Please excuse my ignorance here, but with the “where are you really from” comments, why don’t you just say “my dad is half Iranian and my mum is half from Barbados”? You know that’s what they’re asking - what is your genetic background. I’m sure they can accept that you were born and raised in England but the fact is that you aren’t white because you have a mixed heritage. Why aren’t you comfortable just saying that?

I guess I’m coming at it from the angle that my grandfather was Italian and although I’m technically white, I do go quite dark in the summer, so I get similar questions and I just say, yes my grandfather’s family was from Italy. I don’t have any strong connection to the country or culture as he died before I was born and my dad’s not that fussed about it, but I’m happy to share the fact of being mixed heritage.

sincere apologies if this is an offensive question - I just don’t understand the issue?

The issue is, would you ask a stranger with white skin, quizzically "where are you from?" because the fact they might be a genetic mix of many typically white countries isn't ever a consideration, or something strangers start interrogating them on.

It wouldn't even be an observation.

user1499291455 · 29/03/2025 09:18

Both not half is a great book by jassa ahluwalia. I'm not mixed race but my children are and I do wonder how the world and our respective communities will treat them. My eldest looks nothing like me and has fair skin and blue eyes and my younger two are darker skin toned. Already I can see how they are treated a little differently

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