... to be over the moon that Trump has been found GUILTY on all 34 charges?

[Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g]

Whoop whoop!

Well, I'm American. I'm pretty up on current events. And I'm keen to know, specifically, what's not competent about her?

I know there are quite a few people who don't like the fact that she's 1. black, and 2. a woman, 3. a black woman. But other than that, what about her is not competent?

What if 'something happens to him in jail' like it did with Epstein.

I was thinking this too. He wasnt a bad president and he really loves America. I dont think that everyone that voted for him was toothless hicks that people like to portray as Trump voters. Cant see how "Over The Moon " you are unless you are a voting American in the first place.

A US president committing treason.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-21768668

Have you both noticed how easily disprovable almost all of this is?

@Anneofa1000days

I'm an American voter. Can you give me some evidence that he really loves America?

Based on the interviews of Republican voters I have seen, a lot of Americans, women included, don't believe that women can make good political leaders. Not surprising since women's rights are being taken away and the US is sliding toward something out of The Handmaid's Tale.

@Wallaw how do you think the US election will pan out?

Yes, two US presidents have committed treason. One resigned, and was subsequently pardoned by the next president. The other turned it into a shitshow and is trying to get back into office. The treason trial won’t even take place until after the election.

I think the word "pan" there is telling.

Trump will probably win. Buckle in. @Wallaw ?

I honestly have no idea. There are so many variables, it's almost impossible to guess right now.

Between gerrymandering, the electoral college, disinformation, misinformation, culture wars, third party candidates etc., I think it's a tough but not impossible road for Biden. It's going to come down to probably about 10,000 voters in one or two states. That said, Trump can't afford to lose anyone and Americans are certainly showing ourselves to be really unhappy about the loss of reproductive freedom and women's health care, so that could matter.

Edited to add - the hijacking of the judiciary combined with minority rule does seem to be destroying America pretty effectively.

Yes, but lots of Democratic voters have promised to stay home because of the Biden Administration’s stance on Israel and RFK Jr is up and coming (the jury is still out on whether he will take more Trump voters or Biden voters—the fact that he is a Kennedy will likely attract lots of uninformed Democratic voters). Biden can’t afford to lose any voters either…

If Trump wins is on the Democrats. Things are much worse for the majority than when Trump was in. They had the opportunity and should have buried Trump in politics with common sense and competence. They are the ones in government and the amount of stupid non sense happening is astounding.

This is how I feel. As someone said, brave jurors. If he dose wriggle out of this on appeal, he’s fucking slimy enough, then he will totally gun for those jurors. And if he becomes president again, god knows what he will be capable of as he’s a nasty piece of shit who holds grudges and dosnt care about anything but his own ego. I think he’d happily bring the US down, like a toddler throwing their toys out of the cot, just because he can.

Yes, I agree with that. The thing is that the Israel/Palestine issue is unlikely to subtract voters in the states that Biden really needs, with the exception of Michigan. That seems to be largely a university/liberal issue, which is why the Russians are still backing Jill Stein. I know my own kids and, seemingly, most of their friends will hold their noses and vote for Biden in the end.

And RFK is tricky. He's certainly a worrying development, but I suspect as the campaign ramps up and he becomes more visible (and his family continues to be outspoken) his sheen will dim.

But I could certainly be wrong.

Edited to add - a lot of the stuff I listen to and read seems to back the theory that Trump's base is now set, and Biden's is still more elastic, which ultimately could make him or finish him.

I like this podcast a lot
https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-focus-group-podcast/id1586423406

But the Republicans hold the majority in the House of Representatives—remember the recent immigration bill, which was stricter than any in a generation? Trump asked the Republicans to vote it down, otherwise he wouldn’t be able to campaign on immigration. And they did it—followed their cult leader and voted down the border bill that they had wanted, which was co-written by a Republican Oklahoma congressman, no less! You couldn’t make this up…

I knew all that... if I just wrote "tried and jailed" then someone would point out that Christ was not jailed, he was sentenced to death.

I didn't mean to imply that all of those men were executed.

I can’t comprehend how the USA can’t come up with two better candidates for the presidency.

it’s a massive country. There must surely be better prospects than those two old duffers.

It’s unbelievable that anyone would vote for Trump. He is a nasty sexist mysoginstic pig. A complete liar and unapologetic about it! But his conviction will just make him even more popular.

Go Figure! As our American cousins would say!

My point is that jail may not hurt Trump chances of being elected.

I believe they were elected democratically? Also, immigration is a big concern and this exploded under Biden. There is not wonder a bill was made more restrictive than before. These are genuine concerns for voters. The sanctuary cities are overwhelmed. Crimes from gangs crossing the borders have spooked people.

In the UK it's not much better. Sunak Vs Starmer.

@GimmeGin

I can’t comprehend how the USA can’t come up with two better candidates for the presidency.

it’s a massive country. There must surely be better prospects than those two old duffers.

Because you need millions and millions and millions of dollars. It limits the pool significantly.

My point is that we cannot lay this at the feet of the Democrats, who are in the minority. They wrote a strict, bi-partisan bill with a conservative Oklahoma congressman, which would limit access and help sanctuary cities, but Trump told the Republicans to vote it down, to ensure that things don’t improve at the border and don’t improve in sanctuary cities before the election. So he can campaign on how lax immigration is. The Democrats offered the strict legislation that they all claim that they want, and the Republican majority House voted it down. So no, I wouldn’t say that this is the fault of the Democrats.

😂😂alternative cures? you mean drinking/injecting bleach and shining a light up the arse? 😂
the election was not rigged. this has been investigated. if you are still flogging that dead horse, I suggest you find some new arguments
yes we know he has support as did bojo in the uk. do you know who else had lots of support? the bolsheviks when they killed so many children and innocents during the revolution. the communist party when they perpetrated the culture war. putin. saddam hussein was wildly popular. Robert mugabe. Hitler. all popular. doesn't make them right and doesn't mean their supporters were in the right.
no one is intimidated by him. we are just terrified of how utterly dumb and incompetent he is.
if you read this link you will see the US economy was on trend and nothing to do with trump
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-45827430.amp
he was never going to start new wars, he was too busy trying to hide from bin fires he started in his own back yard!

making ridiculous allegations just makes you sound even more batshit. I am no fan of Biden, that we can agree on. the American people deserve better than either of these losers.

maybe do some reading outside of fox news or newsmax or whatever shit excuse of news site you are getting your info from?

RFK JR is 70 so he isnt young and he is a conspiracy therapist and anti vaccine promoter so he wouldnt be a good candidate, but its his name and who his Father and Uncle was that he would rely on to get votes.