... to be over the moon that Trump has been found GUILTY on all 34 charges?

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Whoop whoop!

I know that technically he can be president from a prison cell but how logistically is that going to work?

• sorry, Mr President can't reply right now, he's on shower cleaning detail
• will visiting state dignitaries have to be put on an approved visitor list and talk to him through a screen?
• will he have to attend inauguration in an orange jumpsuit handcuffed to a prison guard?
• how can you be president if you are only allowed one phone call a week and that gets monitored?

America is not our country its for their citizens to decide and by the way he is very popular in America & the alternative is an 85 year old with dementia - trump is better choice

Biden is 81 and Trump not much younger at 77.

The UK doesn't prevent people with criminal records standing as an MP - Once you are released from prison, you are not prevented from standing for election as an MP. Technically, you are also able to stand for election while you are in prison, so long as the sentence is one year or less.

All of the 3 were tried and convicted of criminal offences. Gandhi and Mandela related to freedom fighting, but they were still tried and convicted. The executed bit is a red herring ( apart from Jesus) but the first bit is all true.

anotherside · Today 08:09

But even on that front you’ve a choice between Trump’s crude words/humou versus Biden’s horrible touching of young kids and women. Both unpleasant but if pushed I’ll take the mouthy idiot rather than the kid grabber. It surprises me that any parents would disagree.

What about Trump walking into the changing rooms at teenage beauty pageants, where girls as young as 13 were in a state of undress? Or his conviction for sexual assault? Or his horrible "grab them by the pussy" comments?

turbonerd · Today 11:12

Hitler was not tried nor executed. Mandela was not executed either Ghandi was assasinated.

Actually, both Hitler and Gandhi were tried, convicted and imprisoned, before they came to power.

At least Trump knows what a woman is. On that basis (and is there any other?), a better choice for a leader than say Starmer, right?

I am just utterly astonished that a person who presumably has received an education beyond the affairs of his own daily existence and training in critical thinking, can possibly see any parallels between Donald Trump and Nelson Mandela.

That this very average, well-educated, socially influential Christian family man feels this way about Trump, is incredibly worrying.

Donald Trump did say ' I'll fight behind bars' ages ago so he must have had an inkling that this might happen.
Most people think he'll get a huge fine, but whatever happens it's all unprecedented times.

@SeriaMau 😂🤮 Get well soon.

So? What’s your point?

The list goes on and on.. Saddam Hussein, Robert Mugabe, Charles the 1st…

And???

This is a huge part of Trump's base. There's a journalist named Tim Alberta who grew up in this environment who has done some very good, sometimes quite moving, writing about this phenomenon -

https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2024/01/evangelical-christian-nationalism-trump/676150/

The Atlantic in general has some incisive coverage of the Trump evangelical base.
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I took that as sarcasm. A play on, at least the tories know what a woman is

Sadly a not insignificant minority of voters in America think that trump is literally Christ….

His conviction plays right into these idiots confirmation bias that trump is being unfairly persecuted by the devil 🫣🫣🫣

A total lack of social healthcare has had a significant impact on the USAs collective mental
health.

It seems wrong to think this, but I wish he'd just die. Heart attack or something, preferably in the next few months. Then we can all move on from the arsewipe that he is.

Yes that description and Trump supporter didn’t surprise me

Biden should suffered one. Then the problem would be solved someone else would stand? They are deadly stupid carrying on with Biden. I do not think Trump is a saint but he is not the anti-Christ. At the very least the Democrats should pick a competent VP.

so you didn’t notice how there were no new wars during his presidency?

you didn’t notice how he offered alternative cures rather than an untested experimental so called vaccine during the so called pandemic, and since the rollout excess deaths, still births and miscarriages have gone through the roof?

you didn’t notice how the election was rigged and votes by dead people were delivered to voting stations at 3am (filmed and on camera, you don’t have to search hard to see the proof) so that marginal states could be overturned and therefore a second term could be won, which it would’ve been by a landslide margin?

you didn’t notice how he created jobs and trade deals which were fair for the american people?

you didn’t notice that the economy boomed during his presidency?

you didn’t notice how he was never a guest on Epstein’s plane? whereas other presidents have been.

Have you noticed how Joe Biden loves touching children and smelling their hair?

Have you spoken to any Americans do you have any idea how popular he was as president?

no, didn’t think so.

What is to be gained by him not becoming president. Seems to me that the powers that be are terrified of him. Hence all the propaganda.

I'm sure that's part of it, but it's so much more complicated than that, including the dissolution of unions, the outsourcing of jobs, right wing talk radio, etc.

But the fact is, the vast majority of the demographic of voters who support Trump, have for years, chosen politicians at their local, state and presidential level who were against the democratization of healthcare. Those red state senators, congresspeople and governors had (and to some extent still have) the power to make things better for the people they are elected to serve. Getting people to vote against their own interests has been a speciality of the Republican party for a long time.

Exactly what is not competent about Kamala Harris?

11 July. But it’s a white collar crime and his first offence, so jail isn’t going to happen. Plus all ex-Presidents get 24/7 Secret Service protection, which would include prison protection. Would be a logistical nightmare for the prison.

Because Trump committed this crime with the help of his lawyer, Michael Cohen. Michael Cohen also got convicted of this crime and has already served his prison sentence. It’s Trump’s turn to face justice (yet sadly, he won’t see the inside of a jail cell).

That’s a brilliant article, thanks for sharing.

‘Exactly what is not competent about Kamala Harris’

American approval ratings may give you a clue.

I think there is a lot you haven't noticed about Trump but you'll probably get another chance to see what is to be lost by his becoming president because, unfortunately, he is probably going to win. Then, good luck ever trying to unseat him from power because he doesn't respect the US Constitution and will probably try to rule for life. Sadly, if he doesn't win his fanatical supporters will probably burn the country down at his behest.

I'm amazed the jury had the nerve to find him guilty and fear for their safety because firstly Trump will be encouraging his followers to go after them, like he has with judges, prosecutors and his political opponents and secondly because when Trump takes office he will feel justified in taking his revenge -- he's already said he will seek vengeance on all the people who have wronged him.

Biden is not a good alternative, I'll give you that. The Democrats should realize it is vital that they find another Obama type leader because Trump is being set up to win and this trial is going to be the justification for a true reign of terror when he takes office.

Kamala is an extremely competent, successful former Senator / California Attorney General / State Prosecutor. Watch her Senate Hearing contributions in the Judge Kavanaugh confirmation hearings to see what a no-nonsense ball-buster she truly is. Unfortunately, there are two huge elephants in the room when it comes to Kamala, which is a real shame in 2024.