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To not give way on dual carriageway?

113 replies

Cheerstoyoutoo · 30/05/2024 15:24

So I’m driving down the dual carriageway in the left lane and there’s a car waiting to turn into the lane I’m driving on although it’s not a slip road or anything, it’s just a straightforward juction so the car was stationary indicating left and waiting to turn. I continued to drive but I think they expected me to move over for them as I got the finger, flash, etc. I always move over where possible for cars merging via the slip roads but this wasn’t the set up here. The car is question turned after I and the car behind me passed so it’s not like they were even waiting very long. I’m a really nervous driver following a collision some months ago so I tend to avoid changing lanes unnecessarily but it got me wondering should I have moved in this scenario? Thanks.

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PopandFizz · 03/06/2024 00:11

Two years since your test, if you've been driving for those 2 years, you should feel comfortable changing lanes and be accustomed to basic road etiquette by now.

It's not about whether the law says you have to, it's not even about being nice and polite, it's about making the roads safer for everyone. Those junctions onto carriageways are dangerous and drivers need to look out for each other. If you were driving down there with your right hand lane completely free I'd think you were an arse as well.

Willmafrockfit · 03/06/2024 07:58

i dont often move over any more as when i do i cannot get back in!

xxSideshowAuntSallyxx · 03/06/2024 08:08

I drive on dual carriageways daily, there's no other way of getting anywhere from where I live.

The amount of times I've had to come to a stop on a slip road to get onto the dual carriageway because someone doesn't want to move over is bloody ridiculous. Okay if there's traffic but 90% of the time the right lane is empty.

Get over your fear of moving lanes and let everyone get on with their day. Most people will let you back in as they've seen what you were doing.

jaundicedoutlook · 03/06/2024 11:24

Not changing lanes because of a fear of changing lanes is a bad thing and also leads to the curse of middle-lane hogging on the motorway.

However, nobody joining a dual carriageway or motorway has a right to join unimpeded, and they should adjust their speed and filter in - the car joining the road must give way to traffic already on the road whether from a slip lane or not. If the dual carriageway or motorway is busy then it is sensible not to change lanes simply to allow traffic to join - this leads to more congestion and can risk a collision.

Changing lanes because it is ‘nice’ generally causes more inconvenience for the majority of road users.

TabithaTimeTurn3r · 03/06/2024 12:56

parkrun500club · 02/06/2024 20:01

I wonder if you are one of those people who overtakes cyclists when there is someone coming the other way.

It is often not safe to overtake tractors (or cyclists) and you have to wait.

And it's not sensible to move over to allow someone to join a dual carriageway from a standing start. It's different when there's a slip road, although I tend to slow down (or speed up) to create a gap when I see someone coming on, rather than trying to pull over when there is someone in the outside lane.

No, funnily enough I’ve never overtaken a vehicle, be it a tractor or a cyclist, when there is traffic coming the other way 😆 I’m experienced and confident enough to judge the situation and overtake safely.
Some posters on here sound so scared and nervous they shouldn’t be driving at all.

Porridgeislife · 03/06/2024 13:48

xxSideshowAuntSallyxx · 03/06/2024 08:08

I drive on dual carriageways daily, there's no other way of getting anywhere from where I live.

The amount of times I've had to come to a stop on a slip road to get onto the dual carriageway because someone doesn't want to move over is bloody ridiculous. Okay if there's traffic but 90% of the time the right lane is empty.

Get over your fear of moving lanes and let everyone get on with their day. Most people will let you back in as they've seen what you were doing.

If you’re coming to a stop frequently on a slip road then the problem is you, not the traffic. You need to learn to merge properly.

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parkrun500club · 03/06/2024 18:34

Get over your fear of moving lanes and let everyone get on with their day. Most people will let you back in as they've seen what you were doing

Ha ha ha. They absolutely don't! In fact, a favourite peeve of mine (probably a bit of a contradiction in terms) is that you move over to let someone onto the road, and then they won't let you back over!

Willmafrockfit · 03/06/2024 18:39

parkrun500club · 03/06/2024 18:34

Get over your fear of moving lanes and let everyone get on with their day. Most people will let you back in as they've seen what you were doing

Ha ha ha. They absolutely don't! In fact, a favourite peeve of mine (probably a bit of a contradiction in terms) is that you move over to let someone onto the road, and then they won't let you back over!

mine too,
a particular journey i take has this,
i let people out, they zoom up faster than me and i cant get back in, due to this, they can now wait!

beanii · 04/06/2024 13:33

Cheerstoyoutoo · 30/05/2024 20:17

but surely that’s how accidents happen? Moving over without thinking about whether it’s safe or not? Mirror, indicate and move over. I make an assessment in-between checking my mirrors and indicating on whether or not it’s safe to change lanes. Or are you one of those people that just indicate and go regardless?

But you said it WAS clear for you to move over?

I agree you're not a safe driver at all.

If you aren't confident to change lanes or overtake when necessary then you aren't safe.

You'll be one of those people - 'I've never had an accident but seen loads' - yes, caused by YOU.

Honestly, you really are unsafe.

JillMW · 04/06/2024 21:17

Looking through your passenger window long enough to see the drivers hand gesture at speed is very dangerous. In that moment you have lost attention of the road and could have been in or caused an accident.

Annio82 · 05/06/2024 07:06

The most important thing here is did you follow the rules of the road? You did. Whether other people think you should have been more courteous is neither here nor there really.

with regards to being nervous following an accident, If you think more lessons will help go for it, but I personally wouldn’t have found that useful. What did help was time, driving as normal as soon as possible, and talking about my fears a lot. I’m still acutely aware of the potential consequences of other drivers, and my own, poor driving and rule following so I strictly follow the rules. I guess a lot of commenters here would say that makes me a bad driver. I would suggest people who allow courtesy to dictate their driving rather than the Highway Code are more of a risk.

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