To not give way on dual carriageway?

[Cheerstoyoutoo]

So I’m driving down the dual carriageway in the left lane and there’s a car waiting to turn into the lane I’m driving on although it’s not a slip road or anything, it’s just a straightforward juction so the car was stationary indicating left and waiting to turn. I continued to drive but I think they expected me to move over for them as I got the finger, flash, etc. I always move over where possible for cars merging via the slip roads but this wasn’t the set up here. The car is question turned after I and the car behind me passed so it’s not like they were even waiting very long. I’m a really nervous driver following a collision some months ago so I tend to avoid changing lanes unnecessarily but it got me wondering should I have moved in this scenario? Thanks.

You don't need to keep checking- you'll never change lanes. You should be checking your rear view and wing mirrors a lot anyway when driving at high speeds on dual carriageways/motorways- you should be aware of the traffic behind you and at the sides of you.

Normally I think you should. Though given the reaction you got, I'm glad the other motorist was kept waiting.

You should have pulled over to facilitate traffic flow even though it wasn't a slip road.

I don't really understand why you wouldn't have done that.

I think you will find it is exactly what would happen, the OP pulls over, followed by the car behind her.

The difference in opinions in the replies is probably highlights the differing areas we live in. We have a couple of fast section of dual carriageways with numerous junctions on them without slip roads. A lot of the traffic joining is tractors and stock trailers, if people did not move over it would be almost impossible for the slower moving vehicles to join safely.

And you need to develop more confidence changing lanes.

A nervous driver who won't change lanes can be a danger to other users of the road.

I drive on roads with a lot of these types of junctions.

I'd recommend always checking your mirrors and blind stops as you approach and pulling out whenever you can.

No you don't have to but people often misjudge the speed or pull out regardless on the assumption you will move over.

If you are nervous then much better to prepare for this than have to do so in a split second.

I have points on the road where I always try and move into the outside lane as there are very short slip roads with little visibility so the cars just appear.

Staying on the inside isn't the safest option.

Changing lanes when it's safe doesn't stop the traffic moving.

Very surprised that the voting is coming out 50:50 on this. Not pulling over to the right hand lane in no way makes you a bad, poor or unsafe driver, possibly lacking some courtesy, maybe, but even that would depend on what other traffic was doing, how long the guy would have had to wait to pull out anyway, was it perhaps a crossroads if there was no sliproad? Who knows? Regardless, where he was waiting was either a give way (most likely) or possibly a stop, and if the OP had pulled over the car behind (and any furher back) would have had to pull over as well for the guy pulling out to be safe. The rule is to stay in the left hand lane except when overtaking (as discussed MANY times on MN), and even if it is courteous to sometimes do otherwise, it's not the rule.

The rule is to stay in the left hand lane except when overtaking (as discussed MANY times on MN)

Thats a fair point actually. Wonder if it’s in the Highway Code (goes to look).

@Cheerstoyoutoo
No that's not what I said. You are misquoting me. Deliberately. You are missing the point. You should be able to move over easily, checking to make sure it's safe of course. But your accident makes you apprehensive, thus unsafe.

You are picking holes. But a pp, a driving instructor told you:
@bozzabollix :
"Driving instructor here. This worries me somewhat. Yes if you’re on a dual carriageway with a junction where somebody has to stop before joining you don’t need to move over. But a slip road joining does depend on people moving over to let others on, if one of my students couldn’t change lane then they certainly wouldn’t be competent enough to face a driving test. Being reluctant to change lane when it’s safe is dangerous.

If you only passed two years ago seek out your old instructor and pay for a lesson. It’ll take just the one and could save you from an accident. There’s no shame in going back for some help, I’d be happy to do that with any of my ex students, especially if they found themselves anxious about something. These things are easily fixed."

If you are that nervous about such a simple thing as changing lanes then you need to think about whether you are a safe driver and whether you should be on the road.

I mean, that's about as basic as it gets.

This.

You needmore lessons urgently op. You are not a competent driver at all, changing lanes is a very simple, basic maneuver. Being reluctant to overtake slow vehicles increases the risk to every body else who nowhave to overtake TWO slow moving vehicles.

Low confidence, hesitant driving causes accidents.

Yes if someone is waiting to enter a fast moving road and there's a lane free you move over and give them more space, to make it safer.

The answer is never look at the other driver - then they could be a two headed wildebeest and you’ll never know -simples.

Someone got aggressive over having to wait more than 10 seconds while driving ? It's a He ...

You absolutely should have moved into the outside lane if it was free.

It also keeps the flow of traffic moving if people move over to allow cars to join. Only when safe to do so which in this case it sounds like you had a clear lane and could have moved over. The person on the main carriage way does have right of way so you were not legally wrong. It’s just common courtesy to move if it is safe to do so. The driver flipping you off was wrong for that it doesn’t achieve anything really. What doesn’t sound safe though is being such a nervous driver on busy roads, so nervous your hesitant to change lanes

Being reluctant to overtake slow vehicles increases the risk to every body else who nowhave to overtake TWO slow moving vehicles.

@Nottherealslimshady agree I would benefit from more lessons but don’t think it’s urgent. Nobody HAS to overtake. It’s often safer to sit back. Most tractors aren’t going far and will soon turn off. Leave plenty of time for your journey. I was always told by my instructor that overtaking on a single carriageway with a 60 limit is one of the most dangerous things you can do so I avoid.

Most accidents are caused my people driving too close together and trying to anticipate other driver’s actions. Something at least most nervous drivers don’t do.

I would have stayed in lane, I wouldn't want to chance the turning circle of the car joining. Slip roads are the normal design for a reason

You didn't have to move over, but you weren't very courteous.
I also think that if you're too nervous to switch lanes, you shouldn't be driving.

Do you also worry about the turning circle of cars joining from a normal junction onto a single carriageway?

I can and do switch lanes, I just don’t like it. Slightly different from being too nervous to do it.

Obviously🤔

What do you do in that situation? Just drive into them?