To think that improving state schools needs people to pay an e.g. a state school tax?

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What with the current hoo ha about VAT on private school and commentary about equality and privilege.. wouldn’t it make sense to vastly improve state schools? And in order to do so obviously the government needs more cash.

Isn’t it reasonable therefore to ask anyone using state schools, to pay a bit of tax for that, in order to improve all said schools from their (often) current dire state?

Wouldn't be against a council tax surcharge on properties above a certain value in catchment areas of outstanding schools that is used to fund other schools in the area.

We pay taxes. They go towards education.

Not enough. But they manage to find the money for their mates.

Proper accountability would be a better thing.

And why should state school,users pay 20% VAT. They've not chosen to buy an alternative education.

Perhaps when those who can afford to pay for independent education are forced to use the state system there will be improvements because the 'right people' suddenly care?

You still benefit enormously from the fact that there is a free education system and that there is health care for people who can't afford private health care.

How many billionaires do you think there are in this country ?. And if you were that wealthy , then you'd just leave, wouldn't you !!!!!. Besides most of their wealth is held off shore, spread though numerous shell companies and private investments. Their not stupid.

Privileged wasn't the adjective that immediately sprung to mind.

....and the entitled and privileged bubble comments continue on this thread.

Do you mean vehicle tax? Many cars are zero rate, mine is £20 a year.

People clearly embarrassing themselves - she isn't wrong.

I think they need to spend the taxes they already raise far more wisely. There need to be far more stringent checks to ensure money doesn't end up filtered off as easily as it seems to be currently.

There 👏 is 👏no👏 such 👏thing👏as👏road👏tax👏.

VED is essentially a polluter pays, not user pays model.

It is taxed! Via stamp duty and council tax, both of which are based on property value

Perhaps we can ask for the billions the Tory government wasted (gave to their mates) back.

I'd be happy to pay higher taxes to support any of the services that should be available to us in this country.

There is no such thing as “road tax”. There is a vehicle tax, the level of which is determined by the emissions level of the vehicle. The tax raised goes in to the general tax coffers of the treasury. My car, for example, has a tax rate of £0.

I think there is a massive amount of entitlement in this country. In some African countries children walk miles to get an education and it is really valued while here parents abuse teachers and there is alot of poor behaviour. I think everyone should pay an upfront payment for education (same for health) as at the moment they think of it as "free" so take for granted.

Exactly.

Maybe people who benefit from those educated at state schools should pay extra tax too? You know for the roads those people built that we drive on. For being staff at services we use (cinema, cafe) for being staff in the NHS, military and emergency services?

Honestly this is such a silly question OP. Education should be well funded. As should many others things. Money isn't an infinite resource.

That would plunge already struggling people deeper into poverty.

Totally agree with this.

@Floatingvoternolandinsight Not very relevant but it was bought from the council by its previous occupants under right to buy as they had lived there since the 1960s and bought it in the 1980s then continued to live in it till they died over a decade ago at which time it was marketed by their executors and we bought it. About 40% of homes originally built as council housing are now privately owned but they tend to be a lower price-point than houses of the same size built for the open market and are hence more affordable - it was certainly all we could afford when we bought.

Ok Sherlock. How would you solve the issue with state schools?

This

@edwinbear well said

I'd rather have proper admissions reform rather that economically segregate schools even further.

Taxation by catchment would be near impossible in a lot of areas without defined catchments and with declining student population. What if you bought a house out of catchment knowing you couldn't afford the surcharge, and five years later your house was within the admissions area?

Agreed. Where dues the money come from to do all that?

But this is not quite what's being suggested is it?