To think Cornwall has gone down market?

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Not my opinion - that of my friend. She said she was down in West Cornwall for the bank holiday weekend and the crowd seems go have changed a lot over the last five years.

Next time she needs to stay at Rock.

This Scot has been on a trek to Cornwall it was a definite 4 horse journey and my Scottish £20 caused quite a stir in.the pub !

A glorious place, but sadly overrun by pink shirts and very large cars for most of June, July and August. Even Matt Hancock holidays there.

I live near London and regularly go to both Devon and Cornwall because they're both beautiful and I like going to nice beaches. I am respectful and not rude, mainly because i dont go in the height of summer when its insane. Im not sure id pay much attention to someone that wasnt sure if they were in Devon or Cornwall 😂

I want sticks of rock, kiss me quick hats, and Donkey Rides …. Not craft beers, quinoa, and man-buns @ExtraOnions this made me spit my tea out 😂

Well usually people like to go on holiday somewhere different for a change, so northerners will go south and southerners will go north. There are so many beautiful places all over the country!

Well said.

I've only been to 2 different parts of Cornwall so can only base this on what I have experienced.

The inlaws paid for a cottage in Mousehole for a week after DC1 was born.... I absolutely hated it. At first I thought that it was because I was not ready to travel that far and hormonal (2 weeks post-partum). However, looking back I realised that a big part of it was the fact that there was nothing there. A little harbour, a pub and a local tourist shop. It looked pretty but obviously had huge amounts of rural poverty. The in-laws loved it as they just saw a quaint little village.

I went to Bude about 20 years ago and it felt like a bit of a dive then.

Cornwall is a fairly large geographical area to describe as having ‘gone downmarket’.

If anything I’d say it’s somewhat prohibitively expensive. We are a ‘naice’ young, middle-class family in the traditional sense and holidaying in Cornwall isn’t high on my list in terms of value for money.

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If anything I’d say it’s somewhat prohibitively expensive. We are a ‘naice’ young, middle-class family in the traditional sense and holidaying in Cornwall isn’t high on my list in terms of value for money.

Holidaying in the UK doesn't represent good value for money anymore. Cornwall, the Lake District, Pembrokeshire, Devon, even the Isle of Wight - you're not getting away with much change from £2500 for a week to 10 nights now, and that's for a caravan stay. Going abroad for guaranteed sun - you can often get flights and accommodation for about the same for self-catering. It's a no brainer for most families with small children.

But you are the crowd. Overcrowding of tourist hotspots is not due to everyone else except you!

Cornwall is popular with all kinds of people because a lot of it is exceptionally beautiful, and well known for being so. It becomes uncomfortably crowded during the holidays for both locals and tourists. Both groups get pretty pissed off about it.

Having lived here for more than a decade, I can tell you that some tourists are hideously entitled and rude, and some are lovely. Just like the locals in fact.

It’s no more ‘downmarket’, whatever that may mean, than the rest of our ravaged island. Just a lot poorer and riven by inequality than most places.

We went to Cornwall 10 years ago and really enjoyed it. this year we are towing our caravan to Cornwall all the way from Lincolnshire. Hope an American and a yellow belly are posh enough for the place. if you have your own caravan and belong to Caravan club and stay on their sites, the prices are actually pretty reasonable. I admit that we cook our own breakfast and dinner only going out for lunch, but it means we can afford to stay two weeks. With the new biometric entry into the continent starting in October I am fairly hesitant to endure the hassle of trying to travel abroad.

Did you visit The Grand theatre? Generally there are good plays, opera and ballet on - very downmarket, obv.

I never holiday in the U.K. , we won a competition so accepted to go for 3 days . I agree with you and living in Scotland we have the same issue here , specially with people coming from England . I can however assure you we are not the sort of tourists you describe at all and the fact we didn’t enjoy it was due to the people visiting but the locals . I this the op was referring as a downmarket because if the overcrowding with people who really nobody wants to be with . It’s q big part of the reason I never holiday in the U.K.

Of course it has, it's been absolutely RUINED by Airbnb and second homers turning it into a giant theme park.

It's still beautiful, of course, but suffers massively from all the locals being shoved out and replaced by twats.

I spent most of my life living in sight of the Thames, I've now moved to Lincolnshire and the most noticeable difference is how much nicer, welcoming and unjudgmental the people are here, I would never go back. Re the original post, I have never been to Cornwall, but I'm sure it's beautiful and would love to visit it one day. I generally don't take much notice of other tourists, but you get shitty ones everywhere, of all classes.

Well quite. 7 hours in the car with miserable children, only for it to piss it down for a week (probably) vs. A half hour drive to Gatwick, a couple of hours on a plane, and guaranteed sunshine. Same price. I would love to do more staycations. I think Britain is just as beautiful, if not more so, than the rest of the world. But having looked for holiday chalets/cottages for a few days in the summer holidays, it was obscene. And then we’d have to buy expensive meals out or spend our holiday cooking and cleaning we were at home. It just isn’t worth it.

Carbis Bay has always been popular with people from Up North. You have to go to the River Camel area for the Hooray Henry types. They all cluster around Rock and spill into Padstow and Polzeath. Did your friend hope to find more of them? I wouldn’t. Too many teenagers up late making a lot of noise and drinking without adult supervision.

Absolutely! You are right! Not what I remember and not what Mary Wesley wrote about.

Cornwall voted Brexit because of the fishing (and two of the Celtic nations of the UK voted to leave, Wales being the other one). The EU allowed trawling of the industrial kind in areas of important habitat for local wildlife (lots of it in Cornwall) and this pissed off the Cornish no end - especially as their fishermen were also disadvantaged by the Common Fisheries Policy. Currently, the EU is taking the UK to court because the UK is banning fishing for sea eels in the North Sea to prevent damage to various bird populations including Puffins, who rely on sea eels for food. The UK is supported by several wildlife charities and the EU is seen as being bad for the natural environment if it interferes with big business. And the money (UK money) spent by the EU in Cornwall was on what the EU thought was good for Cornwall, not what Cornish people wanted.

Your friend is a snob.

Northerners are "downmarket"?

What, all of Cornwall was full? Or just the small area you visited…

What do you mean by diversity bringing "different types of behaviour?"

I am from an ethnic minority and we were considering a trip to Cornwall last summer... Friends of ours, from a different ethnic minority group, told us not to bother as they'd just got back from there and apparently they felt unwelcome and experienced a lot of racism...

I hope your friend recovers from her encounter with ( shock horror) northerners. Counselling, hypnotherapy, aromatherapy, I think she should throw everything at this.

I’m from Lancashire, I promise never to meet your friend.

Well one thing that isn't downmarket is the prices. We had a short break in St Ives in February, first time there for quite a few years what with one thing and another (previous visits were always to Penzance while my late elderly mother was still alive). We were shocked at the price of everything, especially drinks from the bar and meals out. I live in a part of the country not known for its affordability, and even here seems cheap by comparison.

I think calling someone a “hooray Henry” is no better than calling someone a chav. Let’s stop with the derogatory name calling.

yes, I made a sweeping stereotype about neck tattoos up thread. Sorry.