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To ask if you can claim benefits in the uk by doing this?

86 replies

reqder · 25/05/2024 14:27

Can you request to go part time and then claim as you’re now on a reduced income? Surely that makes no sense as people could choose to do that as and when they felt like it? I am from the uk but lived in Finland since I was 11… we are moving back again next year and I am currently a stay at home parent!

OP posts:
TwilightSkies · 25/05/2024 16:52

How does the benefits system work in Finland?
What if a single mother could only find part time work or she could only work part time due to lack of childcare?

As far as I’m aware the childcare situation in Finland/Denmark etc is far better than the UK.
Staff are highly qualified, well paid and childcare is cheap.

3WildOnes · 25/05/2024 16:56

TwilightSkies · 25/05/2024 16:52

How does the benefits system work in Finland?
What if a single mother could only find part time work or she could only work part time due to lack of childcare?

As far as I’m aware the childcare situation in Finland/Denmark etc is far better than the UK.
Staff are highly qualified, well paid and childcare is cheap.

Yes that makes sense. I wonder if part time jobs are less common too. We have a lady in our team who works 3 days a week and claims UC. I'm not sure if she would like to work more or not but I do know we only advertised it at three days a week.

mumda · 25/05/2024 17:12

Can I move to Finland and claim benefits if I work part-time?

Beautiful3 · 25/05/2024 18:40

You can if you're on a reduced combined income (£30,326) and you both have less than 9,000 in the bank. It's not very much, and it's so expensive living in the uk.

Unjustifiable · 25/05/2024 18:54

@reqder

For an idea see turn2us benefits calculator.

Check your eligibility prior to arrival, if you have never paid tax and NI in the U.K. you may be ineligible for a period of time.

https://www.citizensadvice.org.uk/benefits/getting-benefits-if-youve-recently-moved-to-the-UK/

Phone the citizens advice bureau for any queries on the above.

What people are due is complex and depends on No of children, childcare costs, renting or homeowner, disabled people in the household and so on. You can see a list of benefits here.

https://www.citizensadvice.org.uk/benefits/

Getting benefits if you’ve recently moved to the UK

Check how to show you’re habitually resident, pass the ‘past presence test’ or pass the ‘3-month living in test’.

https://www.citizensadvice.org.uk/benefits/getting-benefits-if-youve-recently-moved-to-the-UK/

LakieLady · 25/05/2024 19:00

RickyGervaislovesdogs · 25/05/2024 16:46

Once you’re able to satisfy the tests and are entitled to benefit you don’t even have to reside in the U.K. Our benefit system is not fit for purpose.

Edited

For most benefits, you have to be "habitually resident" in the UK. That usually means having been present for at least a month, sometimes 3 months.

nearlymrs · 25/05/2024 19:09

It depends on lots of factors- but it's not as simple as working less to claim more. UC wouldn't replace a wage £ for £, so you're almost always better off working. (I say almost because I think in some situations with disability involved, you're not necessarily better off financially.)

OH works full time, I work part time. We have 2 children, one disabled so our claim includes the disabled child element and the carer element. We rent privately. Our household income is a good amount more than your husband's 33k and we get a small amount of UC most months (income varies due to overtime so some months our award is £0.)

MaryMaryVeryContrary · 25/05/2024 19:17

reqder · 25/05/2024 16:42

Thank you I wasn’t intending to do it I had just heard it was an option and was very surprised. We do not have that here

Despite the amazing, generous Scandi system much coveted on here…

taxguru · 25/05/2024 19:32

@nearlymrs

so you're almost always better off working

From a purely income tax/NIC/UC perspective, then probably yes. But when other benefits are in play, i.e. free prescriptions, rate relief, child benefit, free childcare, etc etc., then that's not always the case and earning a little bit more can mean you have to pay for prescriptions, or higher council tax, or lose some child benefit, or lose some free childcare etc., so you can end up worse off by working more. You need to crunch the numbers for the individual's own circumstances.

Vettrianofan · 25/05/2024 19:55

I am in receipt of UC and study part time, DH works full time on slightly less than £33k. I don't work. Also in receipt of CB, SCP, CDP and CA. When all household income is added up it comes to around £50k in total.

Janjk · 25/05/2024 19:59

Vettrianofan · 25/05/2024 19:55

I am in receipt of UC and study part time, DH works full time on slightly less than £33k. I don't work. Also in receipt of CB, SCP, CDP and CA. When all household income is added up it comes to around £50k in total.

What a joke. It's a total piss take on taxpayers.

Vettrianofan · 25/05/2024 20:00

Janjk · 25/05/2024 19:59

What a joke. It's a total piss take on taxpayers.

What's funny about it??🤔

qwertyqwertyqwertyqwerty · 25/05/2024 20:03

Byronada · 25/05/2024 16:32

There is a problem - taxpayers are paying for it. No wonder this country is in a mess. The sooner we have benefit reform the better.

You've had your chain pulled @Byronada - you can only claim if your household income is low, you're required to work once kids are a certain age, and benefits are basically breadline.

Vettrianofan · 25/05/2024 20:04

ThreeFeetTall · 25/05/2024 15:49

Depends how old your kids are. If your kids are over 3 you will be expected to either work 30 hours pw or to look for work that is those hours
You will get child benefit.

That is not the case for everyone. I study part time and have not been asked to work part time or full time. DC are 17, 13, 8 and 6.

qwertyqwertyqwertyqwerty · 25/05/2024 20:07

reqder · 25/05/2024 16:42

Thank you I wasn’t intending to do it I had just heard it was an option and was very surprised. We do not have that here

Do you have free childcare?

And much higher living standards, higher sickness benefits etc?

Is this yet another faux benefits thread?

qwertyqwertyqwertyqwerty · 25/05/2024 20:08

Vettrianofan · 25/05/2024 19:55

I am in receipt of UC and study part time, DH works full time on slightly less than £33k. I don't work. Also in receipt of CB, SCP, CDP and CA. When all household income is added up it comes to around £50k in total.

Would help if you explained what SCP, CDP and CA are.

Theredoubtableskins · 25/05/2024 20:08

Kendodd · 25/05/2024 15:49

I'd second this.
Also, I'd make sure you all have Finish passports so you can leave if you need to. You don't want to get trapped here.

Why do you think people with British passports are going to be trapped in Britain and unable to leave? Is this genuinely the sort of hysteria you live with?

Vettrianofan · 25/05/2024 20:10

qwertyqwertyqwertyqwerty · 25/05/2024 20:08

Would help if you explained what SCP, CDP and CA are.

Scottish Child Payment, Child Disability Payment and Carers Allowance.

FredsRoses · 25/05/2024 20:10

iamtheblcksheep · 25/05/2024 15:38

Everything wrong with this country in a nut shell. Get a job and contribute to society a bit rather than draining our benefits system as soon as you get off the plane.

Edited

This! Why should WE pay to support YOU?

MaryMaryVeryContrary · 25/05/2024 20:11

reqder · 25/05/2024 16:42

Thank you I wasn’t intending to do it I had just heard it was an option and was very surprised. We do not have that here

Yeah right!

qwertyqwertyqwertyqwerty · 25/05/2024 20:12

Vettrianofan · 25/05/2024 20:10

Scottish Child Payment, Child Disability Payment and Carers Allowance.

And disability payments and carer's allowance are provided due to needs, not low income?

So your situation is completely different to the hypothetical scenario set out in the OP.

qwertyqwertyqwertyqwerty · 25/05/2024 20:14

Janjk · 25/05/2024 19:59

What a joke. It's a total piss take on taxpayers.

These are payments for a child with a disability and carer's allowance.

Child disability payments are absolutely NOT a 'pisstake'.

Janjk · 25/05/2024 20:16

@qwertyqwertyqwertyqwerty I'd love to be paid to study but it appears I'm working to enable other people to do so.

MaryMaryVeryContrary · 25/05/2024 20:16

qwertyqwertyqwertyqwerty · 25/05/2024 20:14

These are payments for a child with a disability and carer's allowance.

Child disability payments are absolutely NOT a 'pisstake'.

Why study if you are a carer with no prospect of employed work?

Goslingsforlife · 25/05/2024 20:18

Vettrianofan · 25/05/2024 20:04

That is not the case for everyone. I study part time and have not been asked to work part time or full time. DC are 17, 13, 8 and 6.

Edited

i guess one of the children has disabilities and gets DLA. İt wouldn't otherwise be the case.