To think I had every right to be in the right hand lane when driving the speed limit on a dual carriage way

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Dh thinks not.

So I’ve had to do a speed awareness course a while ago so do my best to keep to speed limits at all times.

Driving home on a curving dual carriage way on a slight tilt. 50 limit signs every few yards and a speed camera sign. The lane on the right turns into a fly over which I needed to keep on. So I was in the right hand lane driving at 50. A car came right up to my bumper and kept flashing. I stayed in the lane and pointed at the signs. He kept flashing then overtook me in a dramatic fashion, zoomed off( so breaking the speed limit) then slowed down so ended up driving not that faster than me but still over the limit.

Dh said I should have pulled over. I don’t understand why. Nobody on that road should be doing over 50 so what would be the benefit of me pulling over if I’m doing 50?

@Topofthemountain the arsehole driver had time to undertake and move back in front with no issues so she had time to do that in reverse.

She has also clearly stated she did not feel she should move, not that she felt she couldn’t

But why did yoy need to be in the right hand lane if you weren’t overtaking?

Two things - you say you kept in the right hand lane, he then passed you on the left hand lane then moved in front of you. If he had space for that, you had space to move over, let him pass, and change lanes ready for the road split.

And if you’re so keen to obey the rules and keep to the speed limit, why aren’t you equally as keen to obey the rules and keep to the left unless overtaking?

Your DH was correct. You were wrong.

If it was way less than a mile for a start it would have been mentioned in the OP. For another he wouldn't have had the time and space to come up behind you, stay there long enough for you to point out the signs and then undertake you because is what he must have done.
It wasn't less than a mile.
There was space in the left hand lane, he used it. And no I'm not saying he should have I'm merely saying the space was there so you should have used it.

Ffs!! The dual carriageway was splitting. Right lane took her to her destination. Left lane went somewhere else. The debate is at what point do you get in lane.

If I had a turn off where I needed to be in the right lane - I'm not going to move over for someone speeding to have to quickly move back out again.

The other driver was clearly in the wrong, behaving aggressively and speeding.
The OP could have been in the wrong too, it depends how far from the junction, but she wasn't actually causing any danger and she wasn't breaking the law. The other driver should have waited behind for the few seconds until the junction.

You weren't being unreasonable because you were near a junction where you had to be in the right hand lane. This happens on a stretch of the M25 I drive on and several times I've had aggressive and dangerous driving around me when I get into position and drive at the speed limit (I do it after the sign saying to get in lane for the exit on the right). Once I had this in extremely poor visibility In heavy rain with a massive lorry on my left and literally nowhere to go. I was already going far faster than I felt was safe and couldn't have moved over except into the lorry, and the road was about to split. The car behind was right on my tail flashing and flashing. The lorry was sending spray all over my windscreen so badly I couldn't see anything ahead at all. So stressful.

But those signs tell you how far away the turn off/moving over is. You don’t do it at the first sign, they are way markers. You do it at the last. We weren’t there, but those told the story to her DH and he said she was in the wrong so I guess he knows the road well enough himself. You get in line at the correct way marker… there are usually at least three before it becomes imminent. But this is a red herring because she was arguing the toss of sitting in a lane that is used for overtaking and gesturing at 50mph signs… if he had time to undertake and then apparently ‘sit right in front’ of her then plenty of time for her to move across and back again at the appropriate time.

@Arlanymor respectfully, I disagree. The highway codes tells you to get in lane at the earliest opportunity. At that point it stops being a driving lane/overtake lane situation. The first sign or road marking would be that point. Undertaking or overtaking only takes 60 metres or so, especially if op is travelling at 50 and Lewis Hamilton is doing 80.

Because he was being an aggressive prick and trying to intimidate you.

Still doesn’t mean you were in the right.

You keep going on about how nobody should be passing you as you were driving at 50. Most speedometers are not 100% accurate and yours is no exception. His speed and whether he is breaking the law is irrelevant to you in this situation. Unless you were very close to the junction (often the road markings will be an indictator) then you should be in the outside lane to allow others to pass, if they want to.

Both of you were ignoring the rules, so you judging him is ironic.

Have you never driven on a UK motorway? The speed limit is 70mph. But 90 percent of people will go over the speed limit at points in their journey. If you were doing 70 in the fast lane of the motorway and someone comes up behind you flashing and doing 80, as long as it’s safe to do so, you move out of the way.

I drive on a dual carriageway every day and I need to get into the right hand lane to pull into a slip road to go home.

You cannot pull into the slip road going at maximum speed because it’s just too fast and so you do have to go into the right hand lane in plenty of time and then slow down before the exit approaches.

It seems silly as it’s the fast lane but everyone does the same thing and most drivers are aware of the upcoming turning.

Sometimes someone who isn’t from the area behaves like the car in your OP did and acts like a twat but I know I’m in the right.

You didn’t do anything wrong because you were going the speed limit and you were turning off.

A woman was successfully prosecuted for driving at 70mph in the outside lane if a motorway because it was dangerous driving. She was holding up emergency services etc and like you, she insisted noone should drive faster than 70mph.

Also, your speedo might say 50mph but in reality you're doing somewhere between 45 and 50mph, so just move over. You are not the speed police, you can only control you...

My ds's gf passed her test a few years ago, and was taught on dual carriage ways where one lane is for one direction and the other is for another direction you get into the lane you need. It is not an overtaking lane and you were not doing anything wrong.
However, my dh wasn't taught this 30+ years ago and would stay in the left lane until he needed to move across for the direction he needed. He would use the right hand lane prior to this to overtake slower cars.

You sound like a bloody awful driver. Bet
your DH eye rolls. If you wanna go 50,
go 50. If someone is sat up your arse don’t just sign there to be self righteous & irritating. Move over and mutter ‘cock’ like the rest of us.

You are an extremely dangerous driver and you’re likely to cause an accident in time. Read the Highway Code and get in the left lane.

Why are you acting daft- you have been done for speeding yourself, you know fine well why you were being an arse staying in that lane.

OP you are another argument in favour of the driving theory test being required to be taken at regular intervals.

I haven't read all the responses, so apologies if I repeat what others have said.

OP, you are the worst type of driver; it isn't up to you to police others' speed, which is effectively what you are doing by hogging the right-hand lane long before you intend to turn right. Drivers like you cause accidents.

Speeders are annoying at best and dangerous at worst, but if they want to be idiots let them. The safest way to drive is by is by using the outside lane(s) for overtaking only, returning to the nearside lane(s) as soon as it's safe to do so.

Piously hogging the right hand lane at exactly the speed limit in force, impeding the progress of other drivers, is pure arrogance and lack of awareness on your part.

I suspect you're probably also a fully paid-up member of the Middle Lane Owners Club.

You are definitely in the wrong here.

You should have been in the inside (left) lane. No defence.

God, I hope so.

This 🙌 keep left unless overtaking. It’s in the Highway Code. Drivers getting in their lane ready miles in advance, drive me mad. It’s up to us if we want to speed!