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To think I had every right to be in the right hand lane when driving the speed limit on a dual carriage way

539 replies

P3kingDuck · 24/05/2024 19:55

Dh thinks not.

So I’ve had to do a speed awareness course a while ago so do my best to keep to speed limits at all times.

Driving home on a curving dual carriage way on a slight tilt. 50 limit signs every few yards and a speed camera sign. The lane on the right turns into a fly over which I needed to keep on. So I was in the right hand lane driving at 50. A car came right up to my bumper and kept flashing. I stayed in the lane and pointed at the signs. He kept flashing then overtook me in a dramatic fashion, zoomed off( so breaking the speed limit) then slowed down so ended up driving not that faster than me but still over the limit.

Dh said I should have pulled over. I don’t understand why. Nobody on that road should be doing over 50 so what would be the benefit of me pulling over if I’m doing 50?

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LivelyBlake · 24/05/2024 21:02

I'm with you OP.

I am not a fast driver, I like to get in the right lane for a turn off in plenty of time, and I do the speed limit. I don't care if people behind me are faster - I need to be in that lane for a turn off and I don't see why I should change lanes twice just to let someone get past.

Canacama · 24/05/2024 21:03

surely it is everyone’s job to control the speed limit

It really isn't, especially when people are going to do it in ways that are also contravening the highway code, such as OP.
We aren't paid to do so, and as seen in this thread the majority of us are not qualified to do so either.

Edenmum2 · 24/05/2024 21:03

Why are you even asking if you are not listening to what every single person is telling you?

spannered · 24/05/2024 21:04

Lovetotravel123 · 24/05/2024 20:27

I totally agree with you. The speed limit is there for a reason and shouldn’t be broken just because someone wants to overtake.

Would you sit in the right hand lane of a motorway while not overtaking and refuse to move over because no one should go over the speed limit? If your answer is yes, stop driving.

Cryliner · 24/05/2024 21:05

It's not your job to police what other drivers do. Unless you're a traffic officer? What are the odds that so many people on here are telling you the same thing, yet they're wrong and you're right?

GertrudePerkinsPaperyThing · 24/05/2024 21:07

I said YANBU on the basis that I thought your lane was turning into the flyover imminently. But if not, you shouldn’t be in the right hand lane unless overtaking.

Obviously going right up behind someone and flashing is dick behaviour and we should
all stick to the speed limit, but equally you shouldn’t try to police the speed of others or stay in the right hand lane unless overtaking.

Arlanymor · 24/05/2024 21:07

Nesbi · 24/05/2024 20:52

surely it is everyone’s job to control the speed limit - it takes a village to raise a child and all that.

In what other situations are we perfectly content to accept that people should be bystanders to lawbreaking? Do you step aside to let someone be mugged?

No, it’s the individual’s job firstly and the police’s job secondly. Plus what a daft comparison, I’ve stepped in to protect people from being attacked before, but that’s not the same as being a lane hog is it. Do you regularly fly to Columbia to bust drug barons? Or to Africa to stop ivory poaching? If not, why not, takes a village doesn’t it? Whataboutery at its finest.

LivelyBlake · 24/05/2024 21:09

I think people are missing the point that the OP was in that lane because she needed to take an exit.

What do people do when a 4 lane motorway splits in 2? I always move to the lane I need regardless of whether there are faster cars behind. And I always drive right on the speed limit.

Cryliner · 24/05/2024 21:14

Op are you a confident driver?

BobnLen · 24/05/2024 21:15

Since no one on this thread was there they don't know how soon OP's exit was or how busy it was or anything so how can they be so sure OP was wrong, I didn't vote as I wasn't there to give a valid opinion.

HospitalitySux · 24/05/2024 21:17

I get what you mean, but, you should be in the left lane unless overtaking or you need to be in the right lane imminently because that's where the road is going.
On a dual carriageway or motorway that's what should happen, so you should pull over and let the driver overtake regardless of what you think of their driving, I would rather do that than have that kind of risk behind me to be honest, because clearly they are a danger and I'd rather be out of their way.
I don't think that absolves or reduces the speeding driver of their responsibility in the case of an accident though, frustration is thrown around a lot, but it shouldn't be a get out of jail free card to drive like a twat and blame someone else when it goes wrong, they're still making a decision to drive like that, letting emotions overwhelm them and then blame someone else, I'd rather get out of the way if I can and let them take the full concequences for their actions should there be any, rather than risk being in a nasty accident and then take part of the blame.

saltinesandcoffeecups · 24/05/2024 21:18

MrsTerryPratchett · 24/05/2024 20:51

It was waaaay less than a mile.

A mile would have been 1.2 minutes. Waaaay less is what, 40 seconds? In which time he had to time to reach you, you had time to notice him, get peeved, gesticulate, more over, let him past, get back into the lane and leave safely.

I was hoping someone else would catch this. @P3kingDuck They can’t both be true

A-A car came right up to my bumper and kept flashing. I stayed in the lane and pointed at the signs. He kept flashing then overtook me in a dramatic fashion, zoomed off( so breaking the speed limit) then slowed down so ended up driving not that faster than me but still over the limit.

and

He zoomed off then slowed down and got off barely seconds before me.

and

He just pulled in front then stayed in the right hand lane just in front of me.

OR

B-It was waaaay less than a mile.

Citrusandginger · 24/05/2024 21:20

This must be a reverse, surely?

No one is that obtuse.

JemimaTiggywinkles · 24/05/2024 21:21

When you need to go right off a dual carriageway or motorway surely you move over when the signage tells you to? Until that point you stick to the normal rules - left hand lane unless overtaking.

JudgeJ · 24/05/2024 21:21

NashvilleQueen · 24/05/2024 19:59

It's not your job to police others. Unless you are overtaking stay left.

Doing a speed awareness course is a bit like people who stop smoking, they become evangelistic about their previous sins and totally boring too and I speak as someone married to one who did both!

TammyJones · 24/05/2024 21:22

LivelyBlake · 24/05/2024 21:02

I'm with you OP.

I am not a fast driver, I like to get in the right lane for a turn off in plenty of time, and I do the speed limit. I don't care if people behind me are faster - I need to be in that lane for a turn off and I don't see why I should change lanes twice just to let someone get past.

There is always the danger that someone will over take you on the left.
(Undertakers need a undertaker)

sleepyscientist · 24/05/2024 21:22

LivelyBlake · 24/05/2024 21:02

I'm with you OP.

I am not a fast driver, I like to get in the right lane for a turn off in plenty of time, and I do the speed limit. I don't care if people behind me are faster - I need to be in that lane for a turn off and I don't see why I should change lanes twice just to let someone get past.

Don't drive so slow then! You won't get done at less than 10%+2, driving to slow is equally a hazard as to fast (which isn't necessarily the speed limit in either case). Your speedo also likely under reads!

SneezedToothOut · 24/05/2024 21:23

People here get into the right hand lane 2 miles before they’re going to turn right then sit at 40 in a 60 holding everyone up

I upload the dashcam footage of every one in hope of them getting their licence taken off them.

TammyJones · 24/05/2024 21:23

Edenmum2 · 24/05/2024 21:03

Why are you even asking if you are not listening to what every single person is telling you?

Op: was I in the wrong lane ?
Everyone on MN: Yes
Op: no I wasn't

Arlanymor · 24/05/2024 21:24

LivelyBlake · 24/05/2024 21:09

I think people are missing the point that the OP was in that lane because she needed to take an exit.

What do people do when a 4 lane motorway splits in 2? I always move to the lane I need regardless of whether there are faster cars behind. And I always drive right on the speed limit.

You get over when the road signs indicate to do so, that’s what they are there for. Side lanes you have a marker count down and split lines there are overheads with designated mile markers, so you get over when there is less than half a mile to go. I do wonder why people ask these questions sometimes, it’s all in the Highway Code.

Nesbi · 24/05/2024 21:26

Arlanymor · 24/05/2024 21:07

No, it’s the individual’s job firstly and the police’s job secondly. Plus what a daft comparison, I’ve stepped in to protect people from being attacked before, but that’s not the same as being a lane hog is it. Do you regularly fly to Columbia to bust drug barons? Or to Africa to stop ivory poaching? If not, why not, takes a village doesn’t it? Whataboutery at its finest.

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How is flying to Columbia remotely similar to playing a part in preventing lawbreaking that is happening in your presence?

What do you think is so special about the law against speeding that people should be allowed to do it with no interference from society - given that the purpose of the law is to protect society?

What other laws should people be allowed to break where you think it is unreasonable for the public to interfere? I’m wondering if there is a list?

LivelyBlake · 24/05/2024 21:27

sleepyscientist · 24/05/2024 21:22

Don't drive so slow then! You won't get done at less than 10%+2, driving to slow is equally a hazard as to fast (which isn't necessarily the speed limit in either case). Your speedo also likely under reads!

I do the speed limit all the time - so 70 in motorways unless indicated otherwise. I'm not going to do 90 just because there is a faster car behind me for the 30 seconds or so I need to be in the fast lane to take a turn off.

rainfordays · 24/05/2024 21:27

YANBU, you shouldn't have moved over as you were in the correct lane for your turning and driving at an apprpriate speed. The other driver was an impatient arsehole. I would not have moved over in that instance either. I don't get why everyone's piling on and telling you to respect someone who wants to drive like an irresponsible moron, instead of agreeing that the other driver was an unsafe hazard and needs to learn some patience and to drive safely and respectfully.

Arlanymor · 24/05/2024 21:29

Nesbi · 24/05/2024 21:26

How is flying to Columbia remotely similar to playing a part in preventing lawbreaking that is happening in your presence?

What do you think is so special about the law against speeding that people should be allowed to do it with no interference from society - given that the purpose of the law is to protect society?

What other laws should people be allowed to break where you think it is unreasonable for the public to interfere? I’m wondering if there is a list?

How is stepping into a mugging remotely similar to hogging the outside lane? I was putting your ridiculous point back to you.

You’re arguing one point of the Highway Code against another - speeding is against the code, but so is sitting in the outside lane when not overtaking. So why are YOU saying that one bit of the Highway Code is more important than another? Because that is literally what you are doing.

Actually there is a while conversation to be had about things like civil disobedience, but given you are struggling with the Highway Code right now that’s probably a thread for another day…

LivelyBlake · 24/05/2024 21:29

Arlanymor · 24/05/2024 21:24

You get over when the road signs indicate to do so, that’s what they are there for. Side lanes you have a marker count down and split lines there are overheads with designated mile markers, so you get over when there is less than half a mile to go. I do wonder why people ask these questions sometimes, it’s all in the Highway Code.

Edited

Exactly, that is what I do. And sometimes you have to move to the right which is a faster lane and there are faster cars around you. Which is exactly what the OP did.