To think we are being lined up for something?

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I work in food supply chain.
Four of the 'big' grocery retailers have just asked to renegotiate at least four weeks min supply, as opposed to two.
This happened in Feb 2020 as well.
Lots of rhetoric about being on a war footing, from politicos.
And then Sunak essentially jumping ship yesterday, as though he knows there is a crisis on the horizon that he wants no part of.
There is no way that the Tories have a prayer in a July election.
So what do they know that they aren't telling us?

The crisis must be the Labour Party getting voted in to leadership.

They have always told the public to have 2 weeks of spares in case of unexpected shock to the infrastructure from whatever source. The two weeks I understood was based on an estimation of how long it would take for the government to get into emergency mode and for food to start flowing again, the infrastructure repaired and so on - though perhaps rationed.
I am assuming they must have reviewed this calculation and extended it to four weeks, given that we regularly have shortages now. Perhaps the review was based on actual Covid response, actual food supply shortages etc.

Reading this thread and lolling at the advert that keeps coming up

Quite!

Well, I was the last time I checked...

Do you think the wars in Ukraine and the Middle East are having more of an impact? They’re escalating, and the UK is far from self-sufficient re foodstuffs & household items (ie loo paper)

Just like Tony Bliar was a champagne socialist. He said “we’re all middle class” while his family were holidaying in the Seychelles (when the children should have been in school). He awarded himself a massive pay rise on his re-election, and he made sure from the very beginning that the Blair Rich Project bore fruit: all for him.

If the Labour Party now had any principles, they would have vocally opposed his knighthood, and condemned his illegal war, but not a word.

Bliair and his cohort are the reason I can never vote Labour. Johnson and all his mates who swigged Prosecco but told us to stay home are the reason I can never vote Conservative.

Will the Monster Raving Loony party have a candidate this year?

Mmmm. The situation has changed now though hasn’t it.

I think the monarchy and the House of Lords should be abolished and an entire new system put in place but the trouble atm is that some members of the House of Lords are the only people atm taking their jobs seriously and scrutinising legislation properly and making technical amendments, which is what the members of the House of Commons should be doing, when the majority of them are incompetent and spend their time grandstanding for the media.

What ? I had covid TWICE BEFORE THE VACCINE ROLL OUT. Please explain how?

Could be about solar storms. They are still very active, and a strong one could knock out telecommunications and other tech, as happened in 1921, or if we know about them coming, it might require systems to be shut down temporarily to prevent damage.

At present we have about 20 minutes warning before one hits. The UK is developing a satellite to watch the sun and give us a few days to prepare in future.

That might mean certain systems are shut down in preparation for it. So three days worth of food and water would be extremely useful in that case.

Edit: because I think there would be a stay-at-home order in this case, since not even traffic lights will function, or emergency services communications, so to prevent injuries that cannot be treated it would be safer for people to stay indoors for a few days where possible.

Yes we could have a Carrington event, we are probably due one.

I would expect that to be something that would lead to a world wide warning response. This seems to be a UK-only manufactured panic, so it's about the election and an attempt to mask the many and various disastrous economic and societal outcomes of the policies of the government you have had for the last decade (not just Brexit).

Can you imagine all the accidents from
people desperately trying to get home from wherever they are..

Even if this happens to be about the election, it is still just common sense though. Like it has been in other countries for a long time. It’s to prevent panic if something like cyber attacks happens.

Well the warning system would allow people to get home while the electric is still on, and the extra food and water would allow them stay there for a while.

Until that's in place, people need to be sensible and just head home as normal, maybe drive extra carefully. It's not like a bomb is going to drop - you'll just be bored at home off grid for a few days.

At present we have about 20 minutes warning before one hits. The UK is developing a satellite to watch the sun and give us a few days to prepare in future.

We already get about three days warning that the Sun has chucked out a load of gas/plasma (Coronal Mass Ejections) that might perhaps affect the Earth….that’s been the case for years.

We then have to wait for the gas/plasma to approach the Earth..if it does do so then we already get about 90 minutes (exact time depends) warning of pretty much exactly what’s on the way and how much effect it’s likely to have on systems on earth due to spacecraft such as SOHO and ACE which have been in position between the Sun and Earth for several years.

If there really has been a change in HMG policy I doubt it has anything to do with space weather.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Advanced_Composition_Explorer

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solar_and_Heliospheric_Observatory

The satellite is designed to extend that 90 mins warning you mention to three or four days.

It's probably not anything in particular, it's just less strain on services if people are more prepared.

Yes, bonkers. When the post you reply to included "Everyone is entitled to their opinion" it is dishonest. It implies that you are being unreasonable for not accepting her making things up as as valid as reality.
If I wrote she was a paedophile, it would not be OK just because I wrote "Everyone is entitled to their opinion".
Yet, somehow she is allowed to imply that the doctors and nurses in ICU and all the scientists are mass murdering criminals, but that is OK?

And I've had six vaccinations and not had covid at all, nor has my similar number vaccinated exDH, nor my late DF, who lived in a complex at a care home where lots of people had it.

I think that previous poster is best ignored.

Exactly. I'd rather be at home sipping at my ( possibly out of date by then) bottled water than having to dig a hole in the lawn for a poo when the water supply has gone off again.

On balance being paranoid its just Tory spin and reality that water has been lost three times in five years, I will take my chances of looking paranoid with food for a week and 12l of water under the stairs. I think the 6 pack of water was under £3 in lidl. £3 I'm willing to loose if its used to water my plants when it expires.

Interesting, at present to get the definitive info on the effect the plasma will have it has to interact with the onboard sensors (magnetometers etc) so I’d be interested to see what is proposed, because they can’t park the thing on the Sun…🤔Can I be lazy and please ask for a suitable link (and I’ll stop derailing the thread).

Sitting at home wasting energy by being outraged that the government should already have provided people with water and a torch beforehand if they thought something would happen.

In Medieval Mumsnet I suspect we would be talking about how to identify witches and cures for palsy. Whilst having a AIBU about outing a weird neighbour who was caught talking to themselves in the woods.