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To think we are being lined up for something?

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BeverForget · 23/05/2024 22:09

I work in food supply chain.
Four of the 'big' grocery retailers have just asked to renegotiate at least four weeks min supply, as opposed to two.
This happened in Feb 2020 as well.
Lots of rhetoric about being on a war footing, from politicos.
And then Sunak essentially jumping ship yesterday, as though he knows there is a crisis on the horizon that he wants no part of.
There is no way that the Tories have a prayer in a July election.
So what do they know that they aren't telling us?

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TabithaTimeTurner · 24/05/2024 20:35

watergames · 24/05/2024 20:08

Good science said that the vaccinations acted to prevent the serious complications, so did not prevent covid, but prevented the serious complications which led to such heartbreaking scenes in ICU. I think it is worth listening to someone who worked in the covid frontline, in ICU?

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God if anything the last few years has taught us is don’t trust the bloody science. Follow the science and what do you find? 💰 💰 💰 💰

I no longer trust a bloody thing the government or anyone in charge say. Fool me once…

SloaneStreetVandal · 24/05/2024 20:35

If major supermarkets were ALL panic prepping in a pre pandemic manner, we'd have a more robust leak than beverforget from tesco's bakery counter.

If it bleeds it leads; if something as meaty as this was even suspected, the media would be all over it, click baiting us all for fun.

IBegYourBiggestPardon · 24/05/2024 20:37

marie3e · 24/05/2024 00:04

Turkish delight would be a good stock up item

Turkish delight needs orbiting to the moon

Livelovebehappy · 24/05/2024 20:40

Can’t even begin to imagine that Labour might be in charge when we go to war! We would be screwed……

Itsabeautufulday · 24/05/2024 20:42

DistinguishedSocialCommentator · 24/05/2024 13:07

Just found this as i hear a bot about it a couple of days ago and dismissed it - better to have a few extra cans and candles and batteries as its always sensible to do so for power cuts etc

https://www.ft.com/content/002490f0-13db-4234-b609-e8a539b28447

You appear to be replying to your iwn post

Motherland2624 · 24/05/2024 20:46

Work in retail had an insane amount of covid tests delivered over the last few weeks

Igotjelly · 24/05/2024 20:46

Livelovebehappy · 24/05/2024 20:40

Can’t even begin to imagine that Labour might be in charge when we go to war! We would be screwed……

Indeed, what we need is strong and stable Conservative leadership…… oh wait.

BobnLen · 24/05/2024 20:51

Motherland2624 · 24/05/2024 20:46

Work in retail had an insane amount of covid tests delivered over the last few weeks

There was a new variant reported recently, probably that

user8800 · 24/05/2024 20:53

Igotjelly · 24/05/2024 20:46

Indeed, what we need is strong and stable Conservative leadership…… oh wait.

Yeah...
Not like labour actually ran the country in WW2 whilst Churchill made pretty speeches....

Lifeomars · 24/05/2024 21:00

TheNoonBell · 24/05/2024 11:23

MP Andrew Bridgen thinks the war will be announced in July/August and that Rishi doesn't want to be a wartime PM. He also says we are already at war, we just haven't been told yet.

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Andrew Bridgen is really out on the wilder shores these days, he just gets more and more strange. Another one who won't be back after July 4th. i feel very sorry for his constituents , chucked out the Tory party, off to that Laurence Fox strangeness that is Reclaim, then falls out with Fox in a row about the party car and is now an Independent. I also understand that the current Mrs Bridgen has left him saying that he has been radicalised by the anti-vax narrative.

QuickJadeUser · 24/05/2024 21:03

Bjorkdidit · 24/05/2024 10:59

It would if you were outside the main blast zone but within the area where there is nuclear fallout. The same applies for releases from nuclear power stations, chemical releases etc. A huge amount of protection can be gained from sheltering.

Some good news is that modern nuclear weapons (H Bombs) don't have nearly the same risk of fallout. The kind that we're used on Hiroshima and Nagasaki worked through fission: so taking really heavy and unstable elements and breaking them apart to release energy. They are very inefficient and the blast would distribute a lot of unreacted waste (that's the fallout).

H-Bombs have a primary fission stage and a secondary fusion stage, where the fission energy is used to cause a bunch of heavy hydrogen to fuse, releasing huge amounts of energy. The amount of actually radioactive material in a H bomb is far lower, so there's no so much a of a problem of fallout.

That said, they are many many times more powerful than a fission weapon. That could be a plus, given you're very likely to just die and you wouldn't have to live through a flattened UK, could be a minus because... Well, you're dead. Depends if you're a glass half full person or not.

My father was in Coventry in the 80s when they accidentally set off the early attack warning. He rolled over and went back to sleep, as did the rest of the population. Apparently, a police officer had phoned up the speaking clock, and it had mistakenly set off the warning (as the alert system piggybacked on that infrastructure.) Personally, I would too. By the time protect and survive (and I'm veering very far off topic here) became public knowledge, I imagine most people were numb to nuclear armageddon by that point (as is evidenced by interviews with people at the time being asked what they would do, and a top answer being "finish my pint"). Protect and survive is a gem, though, really. I love the note about caravans which is basically "idk have fun being dead I guess".

LittleMonks11 · 24/05/2024 21:07

Wilder shores. That's one way of putting it.

marie3e · 24/05/2024 21:09

I've got a radio, need batteries, torch, can drink out of the tinned fruit and tomato cans. Net some babywipes for cleaning and may as well fill the bath as soon as whatever it is happens

Totallymessed · 24/05/2024 21:12

BeverForget · 24/05/2024 19:13

In the first wave of Covid, it presented a lot of challenges.
There is the storage capacity, nationally, but it is getting it to sites.
One of the biggest hindrances to this in lockdown was the lack of qualified HGV drivers and the difficulty in training and licensing them.
Toilet paper, for example.
There was an abundance of it throughout the whole of 2020/2021, but panic buying decimated local supplies, that could not be replenished fast enough due to lack of available staff to fulfill transport obligations.

Now this was definitely generated by Chatgpt 😂Nicely done OP!

QuickJadeUser · 24/05/2024 21:13

Itsthedress · 24/05/2024 11:57

Are you sure? Pretty sure Protect and Survive films and booklets were never broadcast / published.

They were available to the public by the mid 80s, as in the Young Ones episode Bomb, Neil is praising his handy Protect and Survive manual, painting himself white and stockpiling takeaways.

I think they had been circulated in local government in the 70s, and weren't secret, just not handed out to the public. I think you could have requested one I have a nice hardback copy from the IWM, but you can find it online in a PDF format.

Spaghettily · 24/05/2024 21:14

Livelovebehappy · 24/05/2024 20:40

Can’t even begin to imagine that Labour might be in charge when we go to war! We would be screwed……

Why? Based on what?

TheFirmBiscuit · 24/05/2024 21:15

Lifeomars · 24/05/2024 21:00

Andrew Bridgen is really out on the wilder shores these days, he just gets more and more strange. Another one who won't be back after July 4th. i feel very sorry for his constituents , chucked out the Tory party, off to that Laurence Fox strangeness that is Reclaim, then falls out with Fox in a row about the party car and is now an Independent. I also understand that the current Mrs Bridgen has left him saying that he has been radicalised by the anti-vax narrative.

He also lost a claim against his family for property and the ownership of a potato business in Lincolnshire. I almost feel sorry for him. Almost.

ExasperatedDancer · 24/05/2024 21:15

TheFirmBiscuit · 24/05/2024 15:57

Poor old Sir Keir he's going to inherit a pretty broken state, people crying out for help and no money and a possible war. I don't envy his job one bit, but I do trust him. He is honest as the day is long.

He wasn’t very well regarded by those in legal circles when he was DPP.

Smarmy, shifty and a self-serving arse licker were among some of the more positive descriptions. 😉

TheFirmBiscuit · 24/05/2024 21:18

Totallymessed · 24/05/2024 21:12

Now this was definitely generated by Chatgpt 😂Nicely done OP!

Sorry ! The writing style and content are consistent with human writing. The language is conversational and reflects personal observations and opinions. The mention of specific details like the shortage of HGV drivers and the panic buying of toilet paper further supports the idea that this was written by a human. While AI can generate text, it often lacks the nuance and personal touch found in this passage.
Therefore, it is likely that this text was written by a human.

marie3e · 24/05/2024 21:19

Vlad though. he doesn't usually make threats like this

Spaghettily · 24/05/2024 21:19

ExasperatedDancer · 24/05/2024 21:15

He wasn’t very well regarded by those in legal circles when he was DPP.

Smarmy, shifty and a self-serving arse licker were among some of the more positive descriptions. 😉

I’ll take that over the current lot. I’ve heard different views from his time as DPP though. I guess not everyone is going to like you.

Kalevala · 24/05/2024 21:21

Bjorkdidit · 24/05/2024 09:30

Or you rotate stocks. Go out and buy some bottled water and a few tins soon. If you haven't used them by the end of the year, put them in your normal grocery cupboard and use them up and replace with fresh items. Set a calendar entry to do this once a year at a time of your choosing.

If you're the worthy type who 'never uses tinned food' then set the date for 6 months before the use by date and donate it all to the food bank at this time.

Must be very rare to never use store cupboard staples to cook with.

QuickJadeUser · 24/05/2024 21:24

user8800 · 24/05/2024 20:53

Yeah...
Not like labour actually ran the country in WW2 whilst Churchill made pretty speeches....

I would like to hazard that none of those politicians are actually alive anymore, and that the Conservative and unionist underwent a radical change in the late 70s. Churchill would be turning in his grave at the shower the current Tories constitute.

CountFucula · 24/05/2024 21:27

ExasperatedDancer · 24/05/2024 21:15

He wasn’t very well regarded by those in legal circles when he was DPP.

Smarmy, shifty and a self-serving arse licker were among some of the more positive descriptions. 😉

He was also given a Knighthood so… not all bad.

TheFirmBiscuit · 24/05/2024 21:30

CountFucula · 24/05/2024 21:27

He was also given a Knighthood so… not all bad.

Attacks on him for his probity bounce straight back on those that make them. He may be dull but that's probably it.