to enjoy hearing Paula Vennels being taken apart?

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Is anyone else listening - radio 5 at the moment. Paula Vennels being slowly picked apart by an expert?

I often liken it to football managers. They are always getting sacked but every time that happens, a vacancy is created. There are only so many people who can manage football teams (no matter how badly), and there are only so many football teams.

It just seems to me that every now and then somebody gets sacked, somebody moves into vacancy that's been created, which creates another vacancy, so someone moves into that. They all have a bit of a shuffle around but the same group of people end up doing the same jobs!

She must be delighted a general election has been called, thereby shuffling her tears down the news agenda

Even emotional support scorpions have standards - and they are bliddy fast!

Is it another good day to bury news?

I do not think announcing the GE today is a coincidence..... but then I'm an incredibly cynical old bat.

And just like prince Andrew....she's probably thinking "it that went pretty well today".

Haven’t RTWT and this has probably been mentioned, but it seems the price to pay in terms of public shaming is higher when it’s a woman who has stuffed up. I’m not denying her dishonesty and cowardice over the whole issue. But who knows the name of the head of Fujitsu, who after all were responsible for the faulty software? Or what he looks like?

'I have this special condition where I can't lie'

Was she also in Pizza Hut when everything was going haywire?

Maybe her and Andrew can vouch for each other.

On the other hand, since neither are capable of telling the truth....

Like government cabinet reshuffle Hokey Cokey

Gareth Jenkins ... been interviewed under caution, almost certainly facing perjury charges. People from Fujitsu are actually the only group who have been spoken to by the police so far (at least publically).

Thanks Sceptic good to know he’s being brought to book. Although I still believe he has less public recognition and media interest.

Absolutely there should be a public inquiry into Fujitzu.

We can’t make the head of a Japanese company appear before an enquiry in the U.K. She has to appear.

Turning on the waterworks at the first really awkward question and apologising so often to the families that you could turn it into a drinking game was her using her gender to across as more sympathetic.

Come across

I was thinking this too. I’m not excusing Paula Vennells, but why are men in scandals like this never pulled apart in such a fashion?

Turning on the waterworks at the first really awkward question and apologising so often to the families that you could turn it into a drinking game was her using her gender to across as more sympathetic.

It was revolting the way she was doing that, continually mentioning the suffering sub postmasters and their families claiming she was thinking and worrying about them throughout her tenure when she was in fact dismissing any and all evidence that they were innocent, stating they had their hands in the till. I was pleased to see JB pulling her up on that.

Must have had flameproof pants on.

PV went silent, could't answer the question and the muttered response she made did not answer the question put to her.

I hope that the general election announcement doesn’t impact coverage of this case.

I don't want this inquiry.

I want those responsible to face criminal charges, perjury for some. I also think Paula Vennells as a vicar should be defrocked.

Well, that's what happens when you let women out of the kitchen. Why do you think we've only had one accidental female PM since Thatcher who lasted less time than a lettuce? Vennells has probably kicked back progress for women in the corporate field by decades, even if it's just on a subconscious level. Oh, the game is afoot mark my words.. ..

It hasn't.

In fact Gareth Jenkins has said that he will allow his evidence to the enquiry to be accepted by a court ... in effect what he says at the enquiry is all he's going to say. If that is enough to convict him of perjury then fine. One of the few to show a shred of human decency. Not sure how this works legally.

He was the expert witness at early trials, although there was only one case ( Seema Misra) where he stood up in court.

This was mentioned briefly this AM ... Vennels confused by problems about expert witness. The issue of his evidence, who knew what about about it and when they new is one of the important issues. Concerns about him were raised in the "Clark advice" letter which Vennels claimed not to've seen. This was sent to PO by a barrister working for Cartwright King.

In fact everyone at PO is denying having seen this letter, including a huge number of senior lawyers. One Jainail Singh denied even when told that the IT records show that document had arrive in his email account, downloaded to the hard disk of his office computer, and printed out, all within 8 min.

Admitting to knowledge of it is a bit like playing monopoly and drawing the "go to jail, do not pass go, do not collect £200" card. Anyone at PO who knew about Jenkins lack credibility should have acted to stop the Misra trial and save her from prison.

I've been following this closely for a long time. An underlying story with a few key points has slowly emerged. The issue of the expert witness is one of the real hot potatoes that could see someone locked up for perverting the cause of justice.

you’re forgetting May.

Exactly what I thought. They've timed it perfectly. 😠

yabu

by all means the responsible need to be held to account.
but the jeering at the coverage is cruel.

Blinked and missed her .... thanks 😊

Yep, they all have each others backs, might all have dirt on each other?