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to enjoy hearing Paula Vennels being taken apart?

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Sausagenbacon · 22/05/2024 10:50

Is anyone else listening - radio 5 at the moment. Paula Vennels being slowly picked apart by an expert?

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frankentall · 22/05/2024 16:39

Elsewhere123 · 22/05/2024 16:35

How many other CEOs on huge salaries are just as incompetent? The idea of having workers on the board as in Germany is increasingly attractive.

Fucking loads. Even if fired they get fat payouts and massive pensions - that bloke who had to quit the BBC got a million for his pension.

murasaki · 22/05/2024 16:39

Good question Sir Wyn. And pathetic crying.

littlbrowndog · 22/05/2024 16:39

She got pissed off at people laughing at here

EggcornAcorn · 22/05/2024 16:39

Some mocking laughter from the members of the public attending at PV's hesitations and mis-speakings.

Plus she's TOO TRUSTING OF PEOPLE, don't you know.

Quirkyme · 22/05/2024 16:40

JB did a huge exhale there.

I'm sure he may be off for a drink haha

frankentall · 22/05/2024 16:40

littlbrowndog · 22/05/2024 16:39

She got pissed off at people laughing at here

Evidently not used to being held to any kind of account for anything ever.

EggcornAcorn · 22/05/2024 16:40

Sir Wynn admiring the restraint of the members of the public present.

BigMandsTattooPortfolio · 22/05/2024 16:41

‘Too trusting’ reminds me of Andrew Windsor’s ‘too honourable’.

murasaki · 22/05/2024 16:41

Sir Wyn just basically said ' dial the laughing back, guys'. Without telling them to stop entirely......

Yogachick · 22/05/2024 16:41

Anyone know where I can watch this from the start. I want to see her as she lies

SinnerBoy · 22/05/2024 16:41

EggcornAcorn · Today 16:39

Plus she's TOO TRUSTING OF PEOPLE, don't you know.

Some big kids dunned it and runned away, Sir!

Gettingbysomehow · 22/05/2024 16:42

The crying made me sick, was she crying when some of the post masters committed suicide? It made me furious.

littlbrowndog · 22/05/2024 16:42

She was told by McCormack. She wasn’t to trusting to completely ignore him

EggcornAcorn · 22/05/2024 16:43

Back tomorrow 9.45 am.

I am busy tomorrow (I don't earn a living lying to as many people as possible, ofc 👍) so I will be relying on you lovely lot to keep an eye on proceedings please.

piscofrisco · 22/05/2024 16:44

Who are the 'people' that sought to lie to her so much I wonder? The ones she trusted too much. I don't buy it

murasaki · 22/05/2024 16:45

JB has earned a large gin.

I can see tomorrow is not going to be my most functional day either, I can't take my eyes off this car crash.

murasaki · 22/05/2024 16:46

Yogachick · 22/05/2024 16:41

Anyone know where I can watch this from the start. I want to see her as she lies

I think YouTube, or if you turn it on on iplayer, mine had a watch from start option.

KTheGrey · 22/05/2024 16:46

Puzzledandpissedoff · 22/05/2024 15:08

For someone who keeps claiming not to recall what happened, she seems to have a pretty good handle oon what others have said in evidence

Pity she didn't pay the same attention at the time, but then it was others' necks on the line back then rather than hers, so that's to be expected

Yes, she spoke up cos she saw a specific Postie in court today - sharp as a tack now. Apparently she "did not understand" what the email saying Fujitsu had remote access to Horizon and could be making unauthorised transactions meant. Really? Because it meant what it said.

PrincessOlga · 22/05/2024 16:46

Jellycatspyjamas · 22/05/2024 16:23

I do wonder what evidence those post office workers were sent to prison on, what solid evidence was presented to the Magistrates/Judges in order for those sentences to be handed down by them.

Wasn’t part of the issue the Post Office having the power to investigate and prosecute their own staff, so no independent examination of evidence by the police or CPS?

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I think you may be right. The Post Office had some "special powers" in Scotland, which were rescinded this week, I believe, by the Scottish Lord Advocate.

The thing is here, and people should not forget, the post office workers were also prosecuted in Scotland. Scotland has an entirely different legal system, names of the offices, laws, etc. So this happened in two "different" countries.

This means that prosecutors in two different countries somehow came to the same wrong decision. So both systems face questions -- and why was one aping the other? Was Scotland's system really so independent (and is it is, constitutionally, supposed to be)?

IsawwhatIsaw · 22/05/2024 16:49

Her sheet mediocrity,dishonesty and heartlessness on full display today

KTheGrey · 22/05/2024 16:49

BoudiccaOfSuburbia · 22/05/2024 15:05

On current evidence I hope she is prosecuted and jailed.

But I also hope that she is not the sacrificial offering that saves the skin of all those men who should also be prosecuted and jailed. The lying gits from within the PO and especially Fujitsu who will lie their way through and are not as publicly emotional as PV.

Yes - if Fujitsu had remote access then their operatives are the ones responsible for the disappearing money. They need to step up.

meimei80 · 22/05/2024 16:52

Zero accountability like most of the top layer of the C of E who answer to no one. The faux innocence is particularly nauseating. No admission of responsibility. I hope she gets sent down.

ginasevern · 22/05/2024 16:53

TreadSoftlyOnMyDreams · 22/05/2024 15:14

I believe around £150m has been paid out to date including interim payments. Final figures will be significantly north of that though. There's a tracker for the various compensation schemes on the Post Office website.
https://corporate.postoffice.co.uk/en/the-horizon-it-scandal/

I'm honestly no expert (obviously) but what has and hasn't been paid out and to whom is incredibly, and probably delibertatley, complicated. Alan Bates, the spokesman for those convicted, has rejected an offer as of April saying it is only one sixth of what he claimed.

Other victims received payments that were entirely gobbled up by lawyers fees because they had to fight for justice and although they were offered a large'ish sum they actually ended up with only £20,000 each.

Other Victims who were not imprisoned but nonetheless lost everything they owned trying to pay back the Post Office have received a utterly insulting £75,000 as full and final settlement. One such woman on the news today has just been offered £44,000 even though she lost her home, her savings, her reputation, her pension and her health. She is 60 now.

It's an absolute mess and I am perfectly sure that nobody has yet received fair and proper compensation and it certainly appears that some people are still having to prove they are entitled to it, even though they clearly are.

porridgecake · 22/05/2024 16:53

KTheGrey · 22/05/2024 16:49

Yes - if Fujitsu had remote access then their operatives are the ones responsible for the disappearing money. They need to step up.

Yes. What were they doing? Deliberately creating false deficits, interfering with the accounts? Why would they do that? Just because they could? Surely they would have known that the sub post masters would be blamed.

This is the bit that I just do not understand. It is no different from hacking into someone's lap top or bank account to steal their money.

WayMeanWood · 22/05/2024 16:54

BigMandsTattooPortfolio · 22/05/2024 16:41

‘Too trusting’ reminds me of Andrew Windsor’s ‘too honourable’.

Yes, just the same 🤬

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