Singapore flight turbulence tragedy

[Freespirit44]

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Since I have heard the news I am absolutely terrified.

I am a VERY anxious flyer. For this reason I haven't flown in over seven years.

The news of this tragedy has triggered me as i have a short haul flight next week from the UK.

Anyone else feel the same?

The fact is, there wouldn't have been injuries if everyone was strapped it....

Air hostesses can’t be strapped in the whole time though?

Take some benadryl when you board and everyone is settled, or ask your doctor for a prescription of two lorazepam, one for the outbound flight and one for the return.

Saying "just wear your seat belt" isn't "minimising it" that is literally what your seat belt is for! What did you think it was for?

Actually It is more likely to happen at low altitudes, which is why they fly high to try and avoid wind patterns. But can happen at any altitude.

Still the safest way to travel though

No. Most flights experience turbulence. This was something of a freak occurrence, unlikely to repeat. Air travel is incredibly safe.

Just to back up what a pp has said there appears to be no truth in the story that the aircraft “plunged” 6000 feet…

There was the turbulence encounter and shortly afterwards the aircraft descended 6000 feet in 3-5 minutes, which is a fairly normal rate of decent (around 2000 feet a minute or less) if for example you want to step down in altitude to get out of a turbulent layer.

The jurnos spotted this of Flightradar and completely misunderstood what they were looking out,..FlightRadar even issued comment about it this evening.

I flew this route a lot over a period of thirty years, the Bay of Bengal can be interesting at this time of year, very very large cumulonimbus clouds that you have to pick your way around using eyeball and/or weather radar but it’s all in a days work and I certainly never encountered anything close to being as bad as this.

A million Britons die every year. Some of them on aeroplanes.

We had bad turbulence on a flight recently, it went on for minutes. But everyone was seated except the crew initially who quickly got to their seats so noone was injured at all.

It def is a risk as telemetry can't detect it yet so pilots don't know how long, tall or wifde it is.

Just know this, I am frequent flyer due to work 🙄 and turbulence has not been a feature except on the recent flight. Yes you may find a pocket, but real turbulence, def not!

Obviously cabin crew can’t be strapped in all the time and there may have been people in or waiting for the toilet who were just unlucky but it is clear that a lot of the passengers who got injured were in their seats and simply not strapped in. Every airline I’ve flown with in the last 15-20 years advises in their safety briefing that you should wear your seatbelt whenever seated in case of unexpected turbulence.

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The only problem with doing this is I get asked to swap seats on almost every flight because I’m under 5 foot and taller people (usually men) think this means I don’t deserve the extra leg room. I’ve also been asked many times to swap my window seat for someone’s child and I’ve had so much pressure put on me to move - especially when I fly alone.
I wish people would book and pay for their own seats if they feel entitled to them, it makes me anxious every flight waiting for someone to ask me to move.

Bit ironic when you had asked someone to swap their allocated seat in the front row because you wanted it. Nice that they did swap but don't see any difference in people now asking you to swap @Minimili ?

And this is why i will never go abroad by flight.

I hate flying, and am flying tomorrow, this is my absolute worst nightmare.

But I also understand that incidents like this are very rare indeed, keep your seatbelt on and it's overwhelmingly likely you'll be fine.

Every airline I’ve flown with in the last 15-20 years advises in their safety briefing that you should wear your seatbelt whenever seated in case of unexpected turbulence.

I don’t think you are the only one who knows this & of course complacency sets in but as I said people could have been caught out by having their seat belt off for a legitimate reason at the wrong moment, we don’t know that everyone who was injured had their seatbelt off for hours & as I already said you can still get struck by something when belted in. I just find it a bit crass that so many comments are “this is why I wear my belt at all times”. It’s like when a women is raped in a park & posters say that’s why “I don’t cut through parks” or “walk alone when it’s dark”.

I'm guessing you don't travel by car, train, tube, bicycle, boat or bus either......

Where your seatbelt! For short haul flights I use the toilet before boarding and don't get out of my seat, for longer flights I wait until I can see the toilet is empty and go quickly, needs must, then straight back and seat belt on. When my kids were under 6 they travelled in aircraft compatible car seats. Turbulence this severe is very rare though. I've flown in excess of 200,000 miles and never had severe turbulence.

Well thats just a silly comment,🙄

For the geeks and anyone is interested in basic details Flight Radar have released a trace of the data they got of the encounter. It was a turbulence induced erratic climb from 37000 up to about 37400 then back down again. Problem is the rate of climb was very erratic, swinging positive then negative. The resultant loading and unloading of g forces is what will have caused problems in the cabin....there was no multi-thousand foot plummet.

https://x.com/flightradar24/status/1792927321935987078

For short haul flights I use the toilet before boarding and don't get out of my seat, for longer flights I wait until I can see the toilet is empty and go quickly, needs must, then straight back and seat belt on. When my kids were under 6 they travelled in aircraft compatible car seats.

You win the award for the most sensible & safest flyer ever, congratulations!

No sillier than your over reaction. You're happy to take the risk on those far more dangerous options but not a plane?

I’m a bad parent & don’t own aeroplane car seats.

And most long haul flights I’ve been on involve a little queue for the toilet.

Comparing it to rape is ridiculous. The rape example is blaming a victim for the actions of a criminal attacker.

Turbulence isn’t criminal and isn’t anyone’s fault. There is no victim and aggressor here.

I already said that there might be people who were out of their seats and couldn’t be belted in, but if people chose to sit in their seats without their seatbelt fastened then they chose to take the risk of injury in the case of unexpected turbulence and were unfortunately unlucky. I have limited sympathy as they put other passengers at risk with their choice not to wear their belt. I’d be pretty annoyed if I got injured during turbulence on a flight because the person next to me chose not to wear a seatbelt.

They will have sat through a safety briefing that told them to wear their seatbelt whenever seated and chose not to.

It was not an over reaction it was just a comment i would never go on a plane.

@Takoneko have you never seen those comments when discussing attacks or even just women walking alone at night?