To think McDonald's isn't actually That bad...it's not cardboard and cows ears as people seem to think?

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Looking at the ingredients in most of it, it's fine??

They use organic milk, free range eggs, burgers are meat and salt, probably better quality stuff than the likes of Harvester burgers etc.

People talk about it like you're feeding your kids arsenic, rats piss and pig shit...

Thats a very woke statemen. of course there are foods that are bad for you and foods that cause weight and health problems . there are an awful lot of fat and overweight, unhealthy people about nowadays… and thats caused by diet and a bit by lifestyle

and they aren’t that way from eating veggies and fruit with home cooked meat and fish.. unless they’re eating them by the wheelbarrow load

you can eat what you want, clearly lots of people do 😂

Are we even calling people discussing food 'woke' now?

Jesus!

Get. A. GRIP.

But...it doesn't have "masses of salt etc" - especially when compared to similar foods.
for example, medium hamburger and chips
McDonalds: 1.72g salt
Burger King: 1.6g salt

doesn't matter whether you like it or not, or you think it over priced etc - it just isn't as bad as people make it out to be.

It's eating to excess which causes weight problems, not an individual food.

Well, that's fair enough, but that's not what McDonald's is made of

It does actually. A Big Mac alone contains emulsifiers, Xanthan gum (a thickener) and flavourings amongst (many) other things.

You know what xanthan gum is also used for? Gluten free products. There are lots of health benefits to xanthan gum.

Yes I do know that as I make my own bread and know some use it. I was answering the previous poster who said they aren’t found in McDonalds when they are. Also it doesn’t mean when used in a McDonalds it gives health benefits and that was just a few of the chemically made ingredients I listed. The big food companies want us to believe what they make is natural etc but it’s far from it. More profit for them though.

Yes, but it's not "almost entirely" made of those things like you're trying to claim.

That's not what I said at all

You said McDonald's is made "almost entirely" of those things, I said it wasn't.

I wasn’t at all if you re read it again. The poster said no food is bad. I said I considered food that contained those chemically made things bad. I wasn’t referring to nor said McDonalds in that answer. (But yes some of those items do contain those things)

But by that standard, the majority of food unless you have grown it and made it yourself, is 'Bad'.

What does 'bad' mean?

I doubt anybody is going to Mc ds for healthy food... we want a burger! I think the wraps are value for money. KFC wraps are nicer but a lot smaller and KFC is more expensive overall.

Then 99% of food available in supermarkets must be "bad" according to your logic.

Personally I don't believe any food is "bad" - it's all about moderation.

Oh, I must have been mistaken, because at 13.44, you said "Personally, I would consider a ‘food’ made almost entirely of emulsifiers, stabilisers, flavourings, thickeners etc bad."

McDonald's isn't made "almost entirely" out of those things. It may contain those things, but so do most foods.

I think each to their own, there are worse things to eat I am sure.
I can't even set foot in one thoughas just the smell makes me feel ill.
I do eat crap, just not burgers, KFC etc

Well yes, ideally we should eat whole foods and minimally processed. There is evidence to show that those ultra processed foods are bad for our health - because of those ingredients. The man-made chemicals created in the factories and added to make the food softer, make us eat more, make it feel better in our mouth etc and which are added to food are not good for health. Eating those type of foods doesn’t form the majority of my diet. Yes it is virtually impossible to avoid it completely but I have made a conscious decision to reduce my consumption of it.

Yes you are mistaken. I didn’t say every item on a McDonald’s menu is made almost entirely of those ingredients. I was talking about food in general and those that are.

Yes - a lot of the food in supermarkets is full of crap. It is very hard to avoid it completely.

Also gluten substitute products aren’t necessarily ideal human fare. They are a better alternative for those with gluten issues, but that doesn’t make them something humans should be eating. It just makes them better - for that group- than gluten.

I think that has hit the mail on the head. A vast amount of modern food is unhealthy when compared with whole foods grown, eaten fresh, and prepared as non upf food and additive free .

These ingredients you listed are in the bun. I think they would have to bake fresh buns to not include those ingredients?

In answer to the OP, yes I agree. It’s just food like anywhere else.

Yes and the sauces etc. Yes they would have to bake their own without those ingredients or source them from somewhere but that would cost a lot more for them!

I forget about the sauces!

I wonder if we need to move to saying “fresh food” and “UPF” food rather than “healthy and unhealthy food” because people start thinking about fat and salt and it gets confusing.

“MacDonalds isn’t fresh food” - you can’t argue with that.