To think McDonald's isn't actually That bad...it's not cardboard and cows ears as people seem to think?

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Looking at the ingredients in most of it, it's fine??

They use organic milk, free range eggs, burgers are meat and salt, probably better quality stuff than the likes of Harvester burgers etc.

People talk about it like you're feeding your kids arsenic, rats piss and pig shit...

Is this the American analysis? They spell 'fibre' using American English. It may not translate to the UK offering.

I love the chicken wraps and the crispy chicken and bacon salad.

But good levels of B vitamins, iron, calcium. Its not accurate to say its low in micronutrients. Its one meal, in one day. If someones diet was based on this 3x per day every day, thats one thing

But as others have pointed out, does all this handwringing go on each time someone eats out at 5 guys or buys a Pret baguette? No.

Its pure snobbery.

Diabetes (type 2, before all the type 1's get annoyed) is caused by a myriad of factors such as being too heavy for what your body can cope with (not necessarily overweight), too high blood sugars over a long period and for some people a genetic component.

Quite, it's either an acceptable food choice, or it isn't.

All these "only in emergencies!" People are never in a place where the ONLY place to eat is McDonald's, it's bollocks. McDonald's is almost always next to or near another source of food.

They basically, don't mind a McDonald's, and yes, might have it less than a handful of times a year... But they have to make out like they're superior in some way, and finally this "ohhhh it's dreadful, I'll only eat it if it's the end of the world and I haven't eaten in the last 452 days".

Definitely going full maccas pig out tonight 🤤

I don't get what high category for diabetes risk means
So a McDonald's cheeseburger eaten four times a year means I'm at high risk for diabetes? Even if every other meal is home cooked with fruit and veg eaten daily
But someone who eats UPF or no veg daily but never McDonald's isn't

Surely it's about your overall diet and not one item of food

A McDonalds every now and again is fine.
As has been said its beef lettuce bread and chips.

“But good levels of B vitamins, iron, calcium. Its not accurate to say its low in micronutrients. Its one meal, in one day. If someones diet was based on this 3x per day every day, thats one thing”

Yes…. But it is scientifically assessed as being low in micronutrients .

And of course it is fine if the rest of the day / weeks diet fits well.

I don’t feel snobby about this at all. I just don’t enjoy the taste or texture of most of what McD offer.

Obviously it is your overall diet.

But the assessment is per individual item within that diet. I.e if you are nothing but these you would be at high risk.

If you ate nothing but celery, you wouldn’t (but obviously you might starve)

Look at the link.

I think just the one? 🤷🏻‍♀️

Bugger

That’s what I’m thinking. Though thankfully it’s taking it’s time …

If you ate nothing but celery you would be incredibly malnourished, and then starve to death

So is there a warning against celery?

Of course not, which shows that all this extremity about one item is ridiculous.

McDonalds UK and USA are not comparable I believe. They use different products.

Yes. Upthread I learned that UK uses Michelin Star foodstuffs. So that must be very different to America because I think they don’t have Michelin Starred restaurants- well maybe a couple in New York but it’s not clear if they supply McDonalds.

Ps anyone tried maccies in Paris? It’s probably divine …

Yes USA has Michelin guides and there are no "Michelin foodstiffs'
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MDs are very good at marketing. if they can convince us their ultra processed high salt high fat food is organic and not too bad they are doing their job.

Literally every part of a MD burger and chips is processed as far as humanly is possible!!

The 'white bread' ingredient list looks nothing like real bread. Sugar? Oil? These are ingredients in cakes, not bread. The wheat they use has been processed to the point that a few key vitamins have to be added back just to make it legal again.
The ketchup and pickles are basically jam, there's so much sugar in them. Not to mention the salt levels in everything.

If you eat low quality white bread and cheap condiments with every meal, you might as well have a chocolate bar and a bag of crisps instead. 100% Pure beef includes 20% fat.

And I’m guessing you enjoy your MDs with a drink do you ? Unless you’re having bottled water or milk your having a sugary soft drink or worse still a chemically sweetened alternative.

By all means go out and enjoy some junk once in a while, but it’s ultra-processed food. Don’t let the multi million pound marketing department trick you into recognising it

How is cut up potatoes, fried in oil , super processed?

Noone is saying it's health food, not a single person has suggested they should/would eat it every day.

But a beef patty made from beef and a bit of salt isn't dreadful. It's certainly better than a lot of other options out there 🤷‍♀️

It's actually very low salt compared to other similar products.

When you eat at any restaurant from a takeaway to a high end place, it's full of processed foods. Bread, sauces, chocolate in desserts etc. UPFs are just the current middle class obsession to help themselves feel superior to others. Now of course no one should be living entirely off processed foods...life is a balance. Truth is though vast majority of us consume some form of processed foods every day and a mixture of both. I mean I made a Thai curry...I used a shop bought curry paste but the rest was fresh ingredients. I'm not going to lose my mind over this issue.

“The 'white bread' ingredient list looks nothing like real bread. Sugar? Oil? “

Pretty much every loaf of bread I’ve made includes sugar and a fat. Sugar is used to get the dried yeast going and fat (oil, butter, lard, dripping) improves texture. You also grease the baking trays to release the bread.

Was just going to say this.

We make our own bread, and sugar with some form of fat are standard ingredients.

I agree with the fat comment but I decided not to use any sugar in my bread maker compared to adding the sugar and it still made a lovely loaf and I didn’t notice any difference!

Pretty sure our bread recipe only uses 2 tsp of sugar. It's not exactly huge amounts!

@BlackPanther75 it's actually very common for bread baked from scratch to contain oil and sugar.

I grew up baked Italian breads like focaccia from scratch and they all contained olive oil, salt, yeast, flour, water and occasionally sugar to help activate the yeast (depending on the recipe).