Londoners have absolutely decimated my city

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NC as really outing.
I'm a musician and over the years I have seen what was a steady stream of londoners turn into a flood this year.
I'm so gutted. I know everybody has the right to live here but it has pushed so many of my friends out, artists and other musicians. It pisses me off that the whole reason these londoners moved here, they are also destroying.
I'm lucky as my landlord is really decent and hasn't put my rent up in years, so I can afford to stay here. But now I'm considering just leaving because of the vibe factor. It makes me really sad. I still gig a few times a week but the crowd is different. I miss my community, but now everybody is scattered as everyone who was pushed out has gone to different places.
I'm considering just jumping ship and moving on myself but I don't know where to go.
Today some more londoners moved into the street...The whole street is full of scaffolding as they seem to really love doing home improvements 😅
I know I sound really bitter. I guess I am. I don't know whether to stay or go, and of I go, where to?

You have no more right to your city than they do. Your attitude is pretty nasty.

why would they make it ? thats down to the singers, musician's, artist's etc

Maybe they like it as it is?

OP, maybe you could try living in London for a little? I can assure you that there is plenty of music and art there. You might like it.

Plus, without being too harsh, you sound like you have a very narrow and prejudiced world view so it might do you some good to get out of your bubble and try living somewhere else.

As soon as I read OP, I thought this.

I live in London and have friends who go to Brighton every weekend looking for properties to buy. Blame the fast train to Victoria, which makes it commutable, especially if you only have to go in to a central office a few times each month.

Also, tell all your left Green voting brighton friends to stop supporting mass immigration if you dont want property to go up. You can't have it both ways.

Or you could argue that the people selling their houses probably ay a huge profit to the ex Londoners are the ones at fault.

London! Some sort of commercial globalisation going on. I live in London and have the new Londoners moving in . Property obsessed even in their early 30s

All this slagging off Brighton and saying it's a shit hole, it can't be that bad if people are willing to pay so much to live there. And the poster slagging off the blue hair brigade is just one of those people who hates trans people.
They're always slagging off the blue hair brigade on the FWR threads.
Also the schools aren't shit, my 3 kids are all going very well thank you.

Lots of people seem to have relocated from London during the pandemic to start families. There are lots in my city and I’ve made lots of new friends.
I’ve only met one person who grated on me when they said that my city is like a ‘little London’ but they have to go back to London twice a week to get their fix of the real thing.

Brighton was always a bit like that though. I went to university and then lived there afterwards in the nineties and everyone was saying the same!

I want to know where all these Londoners are.
(((peer’s out of window))))

Try Liverpool, you’ll feel like a billionaire house price wise!

Wondering what the definition of a ‘Londoner’ is? Definition needed.

We moved to where we live now from a London postcode, but I grew up in E Sussex/seaside town and my husband in the Midlands. Are we allowed?

. Sorry I made a mistake in my quoting and can't delete so I have to change it to a nonsense message!

In was born and grew up in London.
When I was 19 I went I university in the NE of England - I wanted to get as far away as possible.
I moved to Yorkshire in the late 90s and have lived in and around Sheffield ever since. Am I allowed to do this? Or do Londoners have to stay there forever?

Until the planning system is freed up of red tape and power taken away from the nimbys lots more housing needs to be built to get the gap between supply and demand closer nothing will change
everyone agrees on the need for more housing but just not here !

Trust me, Birmingham and Sheffield really don't need you to come along and liven them up. They are pretty fucking awesome already.

More housing where though? There isn't anywhere for anything more than flats in the popular areas of the UK.

OP I know the perfect place for you.

Wiveliscombe in Somerset.

You're welcome.

These type of comments piss me off completely!

Regular Londoners can't afford to buy in their home city as people from all over the world have moved there and priced them out of the market.

It's life and happens all over!

Just destroy our farmland? We can not be self-sufficient for food as it is but permanently destroying the food production areas we do have in a time of increasing climate uncertainty would be worse than idiotic.

OP - to add to my previous post, are you originally from Brighton yourself? It’s always been a transient place, with people moving in and out. I moved there for university but my family connections go back to the 1940s (my dad was a mod there in the 1960s, there’s a fairly famous photo on the seafront with him in!) and even then according to my parents it was full of people from London.

@LadyTiredWinterBottom2 My friend's family have lived in London for several centuries longer than your family have lived where you do.

She moved away from London by choice, before her part of London was allowed to become unaffordable (unaffordable partly because of people moving to London from other parts of the UK).

However some of her friends have had to move out of London. Not to buy but simply to afford to rent.

Tbh I used to think she was exaggerating when she spoke about her friends back in London and how bad things were for them.

Unaffordable to live where they're from but unwelcome elsewhere (despite numerous threads on MN telling them if they can't afford London to move out...).

@Waitingfordoggo DH's friend (moved to London from another part of the UK then later moved to Brighton) doesn't describe himself as a Londoner, but he says many who did the same as him, especially the wealthier ones for some reason, do say they're from London.

Shouldn't matter if 'born and bred' (London or wherever else imo) but I can now see my 'born and bred' London friend's point and I used to think she was OTT. Miscategorising 'incomers', especially wealthy ones, as Londoners is ever so helpful to the people who're chomping at the bit to 'London bash'.

You're moaning about people moving to your town and now you're considering moving to somebody else's town

Pot, kettle, black