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If Labour get in, will house prices fall?

112 replies

DontCheetoTheCheetah · 18/05/2024 09:44

Well will they?

OP posts:
Democracymanifest · 18/05/2024 11:14

HFJ · 18/05/2024 11:11

The stats don’t back you up there. Young, single people generally can’t buy.

Because they have unrealistic expectations (I'm not old myself). Many people want their first property to be a 3 bed detached house in a prime location - you only have to read threads on here and the property boards to see what people are looking for. Gone are the days of buying a bedsit/one bed and sticking to what you can afford. We appear to have moved into a society of over reaching then complaining when it all gets a bit too much.

PiHanLot · 18/05/2024 11:15

What would be helpful is if interest rates could fall which would make borrowing more affordable for people but whenever that happens house prices go up.

Agree with this. We are in our 50s and bought our first house nearly 30 years ago. House was much cheaper in terms of ratio to salary than would be now but the interest rate on our mortgage was more than double what it would be now

Timee · 18/05/2024 11:18

It would be nice if they did but unlikely unless they throw us into a huge recession.
House prices will never fall in the SE because the population grows and there is insufficient supply.
Cheaper areas to live have more stable house prices already.

EwwSprouts · 18/05/2024 11:19

HFJ · 18/05/2024 11:11

The stats don’t back you up there. Young, single people generally can’t buy.

Single people are not all young! The newly divorced for example. Also my aged parents have just 'downsized' from a 3 bed to a 4 bed because they wanted to stay in the same town and there was so little on the market.

HFJ · 18/05/2024 11:21

Democracymanifest · 18/05/2024 11:14

Because they have unrealistic expectations (I'm not old myself). Many people want their first property to be a 3 bed detached house in a prime location - you only have to read threads on here and the property boards to see what people are looking for. Gone are the days of buying a bedsit/one bed and sticking to what you can afford. We appear to have moved into a society of over reaching then complaining when it all gets a bit too much.

Actually will concede you are right here on expectations. We had some young couples look round our house and honestly it was like they’d not settle for anything less than a castle with a moat round it. They were mostly in tiny rentals and were in a position to buy a family home, but no, grass is always greener.

That said, we are still short of a few millions homes.

MidnightMeltdown · 18/05/2024 11:22

Definitely not.

Immigration is likely to increase under Labour and so pressure on housing will be greater.

Kitkat1523 · 18/05/2024 11:24

DontCheetoTheCheetah · 18/05/2024 09:57

@WonderingWanda
Sorry I am pretty economically ignorant. How do you shake off a recession once and for all?

Very slowly

canp · 18/05/2024 11:30

I think there is such intense pressure on housing that prices won't fall.

I think that what could become a bigger issue is trying to find a private rental. I have a relative currently looking for one (as current landlord wants to sell and has given notice). But there is absolutely nothing to rent near work.

I think clamping down or taxing the hell out of BTL or whatever will have unexpected consequences.

MrsSkylerWhite · 18/05/2024 11:30

No. Supply and demand.

FancyBiscuitsLevel · 18/05/2024 11:37

Unlikely nationwide, if you live in an area where a significant number of properties are Airbnb /holiday homes/second homes, then possibly, but any restrictions on holiday lets/second homes won’t have a significant overall effect.

MidnightMeltdown · 18/05/2024 11:38

Democracymanifest · 18/05/2024 11:11

But we don't need that many houses. Once the boomer generation are gone our population levels decline rapidly. So what we are at risk of doing is building excessively, losing our green spaces and farm land then will be in a situation of having too much housing stock.

Once the boomer generation are gone our population levels decline rapidly.

Will they? Looking at population statistics I don't think that's a foregone conclusion.

Besides, the UK will just keep importing more people to replace them.

If Labour get in, will house prices fall?
helpfulperson · 18/05/2024 11:40

DontCheetoTheCheetah · 18/05/2024 09:57

@WonderingWanda
Sorry I am pretty economically ignorant. How do you shake off a recession once and for all?

You don't. Countries go in and out of recession regularly. It just happens its been a few years since the UK had one.

Pollipops1 · 18/05/2024 11:43

They have already fallen in parts haven’t they? Particularly when taking inflation into account. Whoever is in house prices are not going to have big lifts over the next few years unless our economy somehow turns around.

Ioverslept · 18/05/2024 11:44

whoopdeedoo · 18/05/2024 10:33

Huh? How did you get that? Everyone has said no they won’t!

Oops, it was meant to quote, I meant nobody seems to know how to shake off a recession once and for all, if they did I hope they would have already! But regarding house prices and anything else that may happen in the future, I guess nobody knows either 😉

quietpink · 18/05/2024 11:45

How could anyone know that,OP?

Pollipops1 · 18/05/2024 11:47

How do you shake off a recession once and for all?

we never really recovered from the 08 recession just masked it with low rates.

If Conservatives continue then fewer people will afford to have children and to buy so could lead to falls in 30 years time. Plus more likely to be a recession due to money continuing to flow out the country to tax havens.

Birth rates are already low & have fallen far faster than predicted. There are big issues in schools due to the funding model and lack of pupils in parts.

The obsession with high house prices in this country is ludicrous. Logically if prices go down a bit, so will the cost of your next purchase.

It’s crazy, people should be far more concerned about low wages.

KnittedCardi · 18/05/2024 11:48

These issues are not "Tory" issues though. They are happening in all countries regardless of who is in power. Too many people, not enough housing. Basic supply and demand.

Pollipops1 · 18/05/2024 11:50

I expect house prices to stagnate in nominal terms as they are now so unaffordable that the ‘housing ladder’ has gone

yes, the concept of a ladder is outdated for most.

Pollipops1 · 18/05/2024 11:51

And no government will be tough on immigration because of the ageing population issue.

Pollipops1 · 18/05/2024 11:55

I’m pretty sure London has been the weakest market for growth for a good few yrs because it isn’t just supply and demand, affordability matters. Other cities and cheaper areas will see more growth as people are pushed to other areas, more hybrid working etc.

LakieLady · 18/05/2024 11:56

Building more houses won't fix the problem. Encouraging businesses into areas outside of the south east and spreading the housing crisis round the country and out of (not just south east) cities will.

True. It's absurd that there is such a massive variation in house prices and rents between regions. It's causing real problems for recruitment in the SE in occupations like teaching and nursing, where pay scales are the same for everywhere outside of London, but rents and house prices are so much higher.

TripleDaisySummer · 18/05/2024 12:00

They may do something about Air BnB - though as a family we prefer these to hotels - as you don't get hotel suits in UK really but can see they make many tourist places housing situation worse.

The house problem is rising population and lack of supply going back decades.

The natural population is predicted to go into reverse as soon as next year more deaths than birth is expected but immigration likely lead to increase population for decades and at same time we need more workers to pay tax to fund aging population.

On top of that is under occupation - due to divorces aging population and lack of suitable and preferable housing to move to. But building more in area where demand is high is increasing difficult as services in those areas are already under strain. Increased density of housing - but poor build quality and people in UK preferring houses makes that hard.

Rent controls being their own issues and rental market has huge problems.

Labour are making noises about building more but so have previous governments and once you start to try you run into local opposition and need to also build up local services - which takes more money and actually getting the developers to build type of housing stock needed not what makes most money.

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Plus as PP have said it's not just a UK issue - Ireland, Australia, USA - various European countries also have high housing cost and housing problems.

FloofyBird · 18/05/2024 12:01

Let me get my crystal ball out....

Genevieva · 18/05/2024 12:04

Labour and the Conservatives are basically identical. We will just swap one set of incompetents for another. They are both Blairite. The have both overseen policies that have resulted in massive house price growth. Arguably this government’s policies are to the left of Blair. We have the highest taxation since WW2 and the highest peacetime taxation in our history. We have higher corporation tax than the high tax Nordic countries. Wealth, business investment and employment opportunities are leaving daily and there is no party willing to reverse it.

Pollipops1 · 18/05/2024 12:11

We have the highest taxation since WW2 and the highest peacetime taxation in our history. We have higher corporation tax than the high tax Nordic countries.

And yet look at salaries or the services we get for that tax. Tax is far too weighted on PAYE imo.

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