To be really, really pleased about the explicit ban on the proactive teaching of gender identity?

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It's just such madness that we even got here. My family has been badly affected by activists pushing this madness on my Autistic son, who now half believes he's a girl because some nitwit came into the school and told him people who feel uncomfortable and like they don't belong are trans (not maybe gay, not maybe Autistic, not maybe just Puberty, but trans)

I won't apologise for wanting to safeguard children. This is not a Section 28 thing, it really is protecting vulnerable kids.

"Gender identity
The guidance will introduce an explicit ban on the proactive teaching of gender identity. It will say that the idea that children can change their gender by using different names, pronouns and wearing the uniform of the opposite sex is highly contested. If pressed by pupils, they should instead focus on the facts of biological sex.
Teaching children about gender identity could lead to them questioning their own gender when they may not have done otherwise, the guidance will suggest. Children can be taught the law about gender reassignment — that people can legally change their gender from the age of 18 — but children will be told that that they cannot legally be classified as members of the opposite sex."

More info on the changes https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/4a2b0d57-13c9-409a-a40b-104d7a0499b2?shareToken=ed46490f36a6c9fbb0f70d6bf03c0a99

This new guidance IS age-appropriate sex education! What exactly do you think has been banned?

Please may I interrupt the “teaching anal to primary children” debate and ask something…

If a child in year 5 is known as John but is female and was Jane up until year 2, what’s the schools stance likely to be now? Church state primary who allowed Jane to be called John and known as a boy for the last 3 years (obvs not actual names and not my child).

Genuinely would like to know from any teachers how this might change?

AND when I said I shouldn't have to teach 11-year-olds about anal sex, you said you hoped I wasn't a teacher! What point were you trying to make there?

Pretty sure this is what the guidance is.

That statistically lots of children have seen inappropriate images and then are faced with squeamish adults who won't talk to them about it.
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The reason I mention those acts is because they are common on every free and accessible porn site and therefore the impact and harm that would have to a child.

As you are a teacher, and I assume have also read the guidance, are you not particularly concerned with the 'answering difficult questions' statement?

@IdgieThreadgoodeIsMyHeroine that you would recognise that sadly this is a topic that students that age are aware of and therefore might come up in PSHE.

That's the (earlier in the year) gender questioning guidance. SFAIK that particular situation was not in the draft guidance.

They just put out age appropriate guidance for consultation. Jeez.

"Squeamish adults". Really? Have you considered that adults themselves may be victims and survivors of child or adult sexual abuse? Or is this just desperate stuff now?

Have you further considered that the draft guidance actually covers the example of what to do if porn is being discussed, including how to bring it forward if the school needs to? Including telling all the parents they're doing this?

Yes, and when it does come up, I have my stock answer of, "There are other types of sex which don't make a baby, and which involve other body parts, but at this age, you only need to know about the type of sex which can make a baby. If you are curious about other types of sex, you can ask your parents about it, and they can decide whether or not they think you are old enough to know about it."

Did you think I just stick my fingers in my ears and say, "Lalalala!"?

@ResisterRex what? Sorry. V tired and clearly being dim. I’ll rephrase… (am not a teacher).

Female child has been known as a boy since year 2. Now year 5. Will start puberty soon.

the school have accepted that she’s known as John, is a “boy” at school etc. Will they now have to go back to treating her as a girl (in pe lessons, PSHCE, general boy vs girl stuff)?

Yes that situation hasn't been addressed in the "gender questioning" draft guidance which was out to consultation earlier this year. It was a criticism made of the draft guidance.

Unhelpful but as I recall and now especially following Cass, it's really a situation that should never have happened. How you row back from it, I don't know.

Thank you. I always worried about her getting the top of primary, starting puberty and it all crashing down. Seemed so wrong to allow a 6 year old to change “sex” and had I been a parent in the class I would have been very unhappy. Felt/feels like our children are being gas-lit to accept that this girl is now a boy, even though she obviously isn’t.

It's a sensible ban but it's not being communicated clearly so people are confused. Or being misled by hype and rhetoric. I work in a school and some staff think we now can't tell younger girls about periods. Considering several of my year 4s have them, I'll carry on chatting with them and helping them through this.

I think the majority of people have no idea what's been going on because of the failure of the BBC C4 and ITV to report on safeguarding. So are a bit surprised that something they know nothing about has been legislated about.
its as if some new laws about blue people came out. But no one knew there were any blue people anyway.
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This is one of the discussion topics on YouGov today if anyone is a member and would like to comment/read other comments. Data is being gathered. Majority are in favour of government guidelines so far.