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AIBU - use of ‘Dr’ title - is this normal?!

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Cheesecake45 · 12/05/2024 18:54

Just not sure if I need to get with the times or not - is it normal to go by the title ‘Dr’ simply for having a PhD, if you aren’t in the medical profession? I’m talking one of the easiest PhDs to get (comparatively speaking), nothing vaguely linked to medicine.

AIBU??
YES = this is totally normal get over yourself
NO = wouldn’t be caught dead calling myself a doctor unless I could be assistance in a medical emergency!

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babyproblems · 12/05/2024 21:40

I don’t think it’s unusual at all.. if you’ve completed a Doctorate I don’t see why you wouldn’t use Dr. I know several people who do this & ive never thought it pretentious. I think it’s quite normal! It’s not about being medically qualified.

Iamthemoom · 12/05/2024 21:40

Worked insanely hard for 7 years for my PhD (and believe me there are no easy ones!) quite honestly it nearly killed me to get it. Dr is the relevant title and it's weirder not to use it!

Riversideandrelax · 12/05/2024 21:41

PrincessTeaSet · 12/05/2024 20:30

Only? A PhD is a higher level qualification than a medical degree.

Many women see getting married as an achievement such that they want to be known as "Mrs". Do you think that's pathetic too?

I do think that is quite pathetic wanting to be known as 'Mrs' now that I'm older. But as a 21 year old I thought it made me sound very grown up!

Bellyblueboy · 12/05/2024 21:41

People in my work usually don’t. It causes a bit of eye rolling to be honest.

WalkingonWheels · 12/05/2024 21:43

Bellyblueboy · 12/05/2024 21:41

People in my work usually don’t. It causes a bit of eye rolling to be honest.

I just can't imagine being the type of person who eye rolls at someone's achievements. Do you eye roll when people have children? Get married? Receive a promotion? Are nominated for an award? Is it all achievements you devalue, or just educational ones?

DelphiniumBlue · 12/05/2024 21:43

One of my best friends has a doctorate, I am so proud of her and what she has achieved. I get a little frissson of delight when I address her birthday and Christmas cards as Dr J and not Ms J . Of course she is entitled to use her title, it's not pretentious, and if it flags up that she is a woman of substance and someone to be reckoned with, then great!

WimseyofBalliol · 12/05/2024 21:43

Bellyblueboy · 12/05/2024 21:41

People in my work usually don’t. It causes a bit of eye rolling to be honest.

The true British suspicion of anything that smacks suspiciously of intellect.

New2024newname · 12/05/2024 21:43

I have a PhD. Professionally I use Dr a lot (email signature, company website, presentation slides, reports) because the nature of my work means people would expect me to have a PhD. CV and LinkedIn I just put PhD after my name, because I don’t want people to mistake me for a medical doctor, which in my field is a relevant but less valuable qualification. Verbally, I would just introduce myself as “Jane”, or “Jane Doe”, not “Dr Jane Doe”- because that does seem a bit too try hard.

In my personal life, I never actually have to use titles (does anyone??). If I’m filling out a form and Dr is in the drop down list I might choose it, might choose Ms. I’ve never bothered changing my title on driving licence/banks/utilities so I am a mix of Miss, Ms, Dr and Mrs - it doesn’t really matter. I avoid Dr on airlines and medical stuff so that cabin crew don’t contact me in an emergency and medics don’t think I’m a medic. The only time I’ve ever ‘corrected’ someone on my title was when a twattish acquaintance of DH referred to me as Mrs Hisname and I said I’m actually Dr Myname. I myself felt like a bit of a twat afterwards, but he deserved it.

Calamitycassie · 12/05/2024 21:43

Mate of mine has a phd in drama. Dr Drama I call her 😂

smooththecat · 12/05/2024 21:44

YABU, there’s no such thing as an easy to get PhD.

AbFabDaaaaahling · 12/05/2024 21:44

Call me what you like as long as it's not Mrs!!!

Cycleaway · 12/05/2024 21:45

it doesn’t usually bother me either way, although I recently received an email from DS’s teacher, who addressed me by my Christian name and signed himself off Dr xxx, which felt very condescending!

GlitteryUnicornSparkles · 12/05/2024 21:45

I don’t have a PHD but if I did you can be damn sure I’d be using Dr as my title even if medically I wasn’t.

People that have a PHD have worked damn hard to get it, why shouldn’t they be proud to show off their hard earned achievement.

NewLifter · 12/05/2024 21:45

If I had successfully achieved a PhD, I would make everyone call me Dr, even my children 😂 it's a fantastic achievement, nothing wrong with using that hard earned title.

OhcantthInkofaname · 12/05/2024 21:45

Please let me know what you consider an easy PhD area is!

In the US you can graduate medical school with a C average. That means an average for all of your classes. To get a graduate degree masters or PhD, its two C's and you are out. That is only two classes. It doesn't matter if you have A's in the rest of your classes.

wishIwasonholiday10 · 12/05/2024 21:46

I use Dr because I hate having to choose from Ms and Mrs (and Miss prior to marriage). If there was an equivalent female title to Mr that didn’t have any meaning related to marital status I might be less bothered about using Dr.

ElaineMBenes · 12/05/2024 21:47

ClareBlue · 12/05/2024 21:37

No issue with a medical Dr being identified by their title as it could be important in situations.
But all those with PhD Dr. The title is to show publicly you have attained a level of education. OK, you worked hard to get it but why is your 5 years work so important that you can change your title to let your bank and Internet provider know how great you are. All those 'I worked bloody hard and I'm going to use my title'. Why do you think it is so important that everyone knows how hard you worked and not someone who set up a business and employs 500 people, for example. Or are you hoping you get treated differently.

Why do lots of woman change their surname and title to Mrs when they get married?
Why isn't that ridiculed and seen as pretentious?

Iamthemoom · 12/05/2024 21:47

Maybe worth explaining as you clearly don't know - to obtain a PhD (and I assume this is the same for most) I had to study for 7 years part time (5 full time usually), and write 80,000 words predominantly of original thought. So I had to review all the existing literature in my field and then contribute something substantial and entirely original. For that I earned the title Doctor of Philosophy, so yes I'm Dr not Mrs!

betterangels · 12/05/2024 21:47

napody · 12/05/2024 19:22

I love your friend!

Being asked whether you are Miss or Mrs (wish that would die out) is the most justified moment ever to play the Dr card.

Definitely. Good for her.

tridento · 12/05/2024 21:47

neonbluedog · 12/05/2024 18:56

I'm a vet and I don't even call myself Dr even though I can, YANBU

Why?

Therageisreal · 12/05/2024 21:47

pensione · 12/05/2024 19:04

I refer to medical doctors as ‘Dr x’, if a PHD holder asked me to refer to them as doctor, I’d say no.

Why? For medical doctors the title of doctor is an honorary and not earn’t where as a person with PhD has earned the title of doctor.

Riversideandrelax · 12/05/2024 21:48

Medstudent12 · 12/05/2024 21:28

I’m a registrar. I introduce myself by first name to all colleagues and patients. I’ll happily call consultants Dr Smith etc. They undertake huge amounts of responsibility. My surgeon who operated on me was a Ms, I called her by that. And would continue to do unless she told me to call her by her first name. In healthcare doctors take on the most responsibility and honerous training so if they want to be called Dr X then not problem by me. Personally I go by first name but we’re all different!

I do object to non physician or clinical psychologists using the term Dr in a healthcare setting though. It’s misleading for patients. Regardless of their right to be called Dr it’s unclear for staff and patients and inappropriate if on a ward. A physio might have a PhD but most would agree that Dr Jones if a physio would confuse patients.

I work with a few Profs who I call Prof Jones rather than Dr Jones but some are happy to be called Jenny instead.

Whilst the title comes from academia I don’t think academics can get upset if they use the title outside of work and people assume they’re a medical doctor. Most members of the public don’t meet many people with a doctorate so you can’t blame them for getting confused, it’s nothing personal just a difference in peers.

A couple of young GPs I've seen recently have introduced themselves by their first name. It really impressed me. Much nicer for my nervous DD.

I've never come across a psychologist calling themselves 'Dr' but some psychiatrists do. Why would you have a problem with that? I think most people would expect a psychiatrist to be a 'Dr'.

RosesAndHellebores · 12/05/2024 21:48

New2024newname · 12/05/2024 21:43

I have a PhD. Professionally I use Dr a lot (email signature, company website, presentation slides, reports) because the nature of my work means people would expect me to have a PhD. CV and LinkedIn I just put PhD after my name, because I don’t want people to mistake me for a medical doctor, which in my field is a relevant but less valuable qualification. Verbally, I would just introduce myself as “Jane”, or “Jane Doe”, not “Dr Jane Doe”- because that does seem a bit too try hard.

In my personal life, I never actually have to use titles (does anyone??). If I’m filling out a form and Dr is in the drop down list I might choose it, might choose Ms. I’ve never bothered changing my title on driving licence/banks/utilities so I am a mix of Miss, Ms, Dr and Mrs - it doesn’t really matter. I avoid Dr on airlines and medical stuff so that cabin crew don’t contact me in an emergency and medics don’t think I’m a medic. The only time I’ve ever ‘corrected’ someone on my title was when a twattish acquaintance of DH referred to me as Mrs Hisname and I said I’m actually Dr Myname. I myself felt like a bit of a twat afterwards, but he deserved it.

It's actually quite important for formal documents to be consistent, particularly in relation to DBS's, if you ever have to be positively vetted or there is an insurance or HMRC inquiry in relation to your affairs it may become important.

BustyLee · 12/05/2024 21:49

Op, if you are asking because a friend or someone you know used the title, then you are a crap friend. If you are asking for yourself I wouldn’t worry about it because there is every chance that you won’t pass. You seem to know nothing about what it takes to achieve a PhD and if you think your subject is so easy then you are either a genius or a simpleton.

decionsdecisions62 · 12/05/2024 21:49

@Iamthemoom as I said earlier-wankery.

You don't need to explain!

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