AIBU - use of ‘Dr’ title - is this normal?!

[Cheesecake45]

Just not sure if I need to get with the times or not - is it normal to go by the title ‘Dr’ simply for having a PhD, if you aren’t in the medical profession? I’m talking one of the easiest PhDs to get (comparatively speaking), nothing vaguely linked to medicine.

AIBU??
YES = this is totally normal get over yourself
NO = wouldn’t be caught dead calling myself a doctor unless I could be assistance in a medical emergency!

obviously there’s a difference between a PhD from Cambridge in astrophysics and an online PhD in another subject

Doctoral degrees are research degrees. They are undertaken independently with only occasional input from a supervisor.

At this level, what makes the difference is the originality and quality of the research. Technically there is no such thing as an 'online' PhD.

I did explain.
You not understanding doesn't mean something isn't true.
Can you please badger someone else now. None of this has been remotely useful.

Nope, you didn’t explain. Because you can’t.

Perhaps you should read the OP's post again and make an attempt to digest the fundamentals of this thread. I'm in England and I'm standing by the fact that to see a non-medically qualified person using the title "Dr" on a wedding card as per my previous post is unheard of and that too is a fact.

FYI, the OP was not taking about the EU but UK and that is another fact

Hilarious. Just admit there was no irony, as you can’t explain it.

This has probably been said 18 times, but my understanding is that it is people with a PhD/ DPhil who can use the title Dr in everyday life as well as professionally. Medical drs are strictly only supposed to use the title in a professional context. And of course surgeons don’t use it at all.

I don’t have either btw but that’s what I’ve been told

Your comment makes no sense, as a BA or MA don't entitle you to use the pre-fix Dr; but a PhD does..

Well this thread well and truly proves that people will argue about anything on the internet.

Sure.
You not understanding something means it's not been explained.
Move.on.

Apart from academic circles and book blurbs etc., I use my Dr title only with the health service. (Not a medical doctor, I always explain.)

Why? I've found it's useful there (and, really, only there), I suppose because people who work in the health service are conditioned to do what they're told by an elderly person called "Doctor".

Other than that, no; ime enough people are intellectual inverted snobs for it to be counterproductive to let them know you're relatively smart.

You are now asking someone else, who did understand it, to explain it, and you still think it's not you who has the issue?
Move.on.

Your explanation was ‘Oh, there's definitely irony.’

How is that an explanation?

I hope you did better than this in your PHD!

Merriam Webster's definition of 'doctor':

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/doctor

well its obvs not unheard of because somebody has heard of it. and honestly what is the big deal? Someone has a title, which they have earned, and chooses to use it....alternatively someone has a title, which they have earned, and chooses not to use it. So what?

I don’t see PHD holders as proper doctors and given some of them have called me ‘triggered, inferior, bothered, loser, a nob end, a loser’ and more on this thread, I feel pretty vindicated in that view. Not to mention calling a receptionist a numbskull and sneering at another poster for getting a 2:1 degree.

A PHD can’t buy you class it seems.

Re "consultants," that is a fact.
Some of our family are consultants and you are right, they stopped using the title, "Dr" - I asked one of them and it is to do with the fact that doctors are "physicians" and consultants are surgeons - a bit weird IMHO, but it is what it is

I used to work in an NHS clinical team with a nurse who had a PhD & she had a name badge, ID badge, email signature & answered the phone ‘Dr xxxxx speaking’

Her PhD was in a very niche area of Anglo Saxon history.

You sound just like someone know (not in a bad way) and this is exactly why they did it

No one said if it is or not a "big deal," that is a fact - I did not nor did the OP

The fundamentals of this thread are as per OP. Therefore, we have family as docs , nurses and surgeons - as do many others from the people we know - we are Asain - therefore, in our circles anyways, there are quiet a few docs/gp's/surgeons,nurses,etc - we also have friends and family with varying "phd's" but none of us had seen the title of "Dr" used for a no medical person and everyone that talked about lol, joked, but we are all aware the title can be used by those with a PHD but we'd never seen it before.

Apologies, I understood doctors had to complete a specialism/training first. My error!

@vawodoc
Other than that, no; ime enough people are intellectual inverted snobs for it to be counterproductive to let them know you're relatively smart.

It's ok at least you will know you are better than them on the inside 😂😂

A PHD can’t buy you class it seems.

It is an indicator that you’re not ignorant though.

Blimey, imagine the reaction on Mumsnet if a Physician associate had a PhD and used Doctor, Posters would explode in fury.

Even though becoming a vet is more competitive and takes longer than becoming a medical doctor? Who also have the title as a courtesy? Their occupation is doctor, they (usually) do not have a doctorate.