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AIBU - use of ‘Dr’ title - is this normal?!

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Cheesecake45 · 12/05/2024 18:54

Just not sure if I need to get with the times or not - is it normal to go by the title ‘Dr’ simply for having a PhD, if you aren’t in the medical profession? I’m talking one of the easiest PhDs to get (comparatively speaking), nothing vaguely linked to medicine.

AIBU??
YES = this is totally normal get over yourself
NO = wouldn’t be caught dead calling myself a doctor unless I could be assistance in a medical emergency!

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bunchofforgetmenots · 12/05/2024 19:00

Yabu. Of course its normal. When you have a PhD, your title is Dr. Are you bothered by other people's achievements for some reason? It is especially important for women to have their title respected, they've often had to work extra hard for it. There aren't really any 'easy' PhDs.

LauderSyme · 12/05/2024 19:00

YABU. It is quite normal and not at all cringey to use the title that successful completion of a PhD confers.

Bearbookagainandagain · 12/05/2024 19:01

It depends on the circumstances. In an email signature, any professional setting or a registration form for instance, it's completely normal.
With a general public people usually avoid it to avoid any confusion with medical doctors.

Source: I studied a PhD and I work with both medical and science doctors.

Ilovemyshed · 12/05/2024 19:02

They’re not really doctors though. No one thinks of PHD holders as doctors.

They literally are though ! Doctor of Philosophy.

NoddyfromToytown2024 · 12/05/2024 19:02

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Hedgerow2 · 12/05/2024 19:02

Amazed people think this is cringey. I worked in a setting where there were a lot of academics and those entitled to always used Dr, Prof etc.

Thingsthatgo · 12/05/2024 19:03

Always makes me internally chuckle!
We have a customer at work who loves to stress his Dr title and will correct anyone who gets it wrong with a lengthy explanation. He has a PhD in creative writing.

GETTINGLIKEMYMOTHER · 12/05/2024 19:03

Two young relatives of ours have PhDs*, neither calls themself doctor. Though since they were so hard earned, I wouldn’t blame them if they did!
*both science based, but not medical.

Evenmoretired44 · 12/05/2024 19:03

makes more sense than having a title based on marital status in my view.

MotherFeministWoman · 12/05/2024 19:03

pensione · 12/05/2024 18:57

They’re not really doctors though. No one thinks of PHD holders as doctors.

They ARE real doctors. They are mostly just not medics.

pensione · 12/05/2024 19:04

Neverpostagain · 12/05/2024 18:58

Of course they do! What a weird thing to say.

I refer to medical doctors as ‘Dr x’, if a PHD holder asked me to refer to them as doctor, I’d say no.

MidnightMeltdown · 12/05/2024 19:04

I had a teacher at school with the title Dr. All the kids took the piss.

sunnydaysanddaydreams · 12/05/2024 19:04

Thingsthatgo · 12/05/2024 19:03

Always makes me internally chuckle!
We have a customer at work who loves to stress his Dr title and will correct anyone who gets it wrong with a lengthy explanation. He has a PhD in creative writing.

And well done for him for getting it. Think there was a tone to your post that was a bit condescending because he chose to do the PHD in creative writing, don't think that's fair

MotherFeministWoman · 12/05/2024 19:05

pensione · 12/05/2024 19:04

I refer to medical doctors as ‘Dr x’, if a PHD holder asked me to refer to them as doctor, I’d say no.

But that's their actual title.

Daisymay2 · 12/05/2024 19:05

As I understand it Dr title for a PhD is awarded as Doctor of Philosophy. Dr for medical people is a courtesy title, they graduate as Bachelor of Surgery and Bachelor of Medicine.
Both hard work to obtain.

LadyThistledown · 12/05/2024 19:05

Well actually the title belongs to PhD graduates, by virtue of holding a doctorate. Medical doctors are the ones using it as a courtesy.
So PhDs are the 'real doctors'.
You're entitled to use it everywhere OP but I find those using it for irrelevant things to be uptight, pompous wankers usually. Like @Thingsthatgo Dr creative writing.

I think all titles are cringey really. Mr, Ms, and Mx should be the only ones allowed IME and all the rest discarded. Except where they actually matter. You know, like in academia.

SpideyVerse · 12/05/2024 19:06

Evenmoretired44 · 12/05/2024 19:03

makes more sense than having a title based on marital status in my view.

Quite

Riversideandrelax · 12/05/2024 19:06

NotJohnMajor · 12/05/2024 18:58

Well, why do they 'need to know' if you are a Mrs, Ms, Mr etc?

It isn't about needing to know, it's about your preferred style of address. If you're entitled to be addressed as Dr. and you want to be, why ever shouldn't you use it?

Exactly, they don't need to know. Titles are completely unnecessary in every day life. I find it so odd when the staff at my DD's school call me 'Mrs' - I think they only do so because they are known as titles - it's just all so old fashioned!

TheYearOfSmallThings · 12/05/2024 19:06

In a professional, academic or research context it is totally normal to use the title doctor, because is 100% relevant to your work.

Apart from that usually not, to avoid people thinking you are a medical doctor.

MissCherryCakeyBun · 12/05/2024 19:07

I work with someone with 2 he uses his title as do many in the scientific field I work in. They are very hard earned.
My uncle uses his too and rightly so a PHD from a red brick in the early 70's when you needed spoken Latin to get in was hard work

crumbpet · 12/05/2024 19:07

This is all part of society as a whole wanting to ignore experts. Or jealousy

sunnydaysanddaydreams · 12/05/2024 19:07

LadyThistledown · 12/05/2024 19:05

Well actually the title belongs to PhD graduates, by virtue of holding a doctorate. Medical doctors are the ones using it as a courtesy.
So PhDs are the 'real doctors'.
You're entitled to use it everywhere OP but I find those using it for irrelevant things to be uptight, pompous wankers usually. Like @Thingsthatgo Dr creative writing.

I think all titles are cringey really. Mr, Ms, and Mx should be the only ones allowed IME and all the rest discarded. Except where they actually matter. You know, like in academia.

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What's an irrelevant subject according to you and how many PHDs do you have then that makes it ok to devalue someone's hard work?

ZenNudist · 12/05/2024 19:07

I don't have a PhD. I see no problem with people who have earned it calling themselves Dr. Particularly in an educational setting.

MilkTwoSugarsThanks · 12/05/2024 19:08

I know a woman with a PhD - doctor of history (?) She insists on using Dr. and being addressed as Dr... she works in a supermarket 🙄

Just strikes me as a bit "look at me I'm specialer than you".

IncognitoUsername · 12/05/2024 19:08

If you have a PHD you are a Dr. As long as you are not trying to take my spleen out with no medical training it doesn’t bother me. Maybe because I’ve always worked in schools with Drs of all sorts of subjects?

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