Having to wait for everyone's lifts after work

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I'm a team leader in a pub, I regularly work the evening shifts and have to set the alarm and lock up once everyone has finished and left. Generally it'll be me and one other member of staff at the end of the night finishing, some drive home, some (like me) get taxis and wait at the back of the pub.
Recently we've had a couple of new staff start who rely on lifts from parents when they finish, the problem is they are waiting about 20-30 minutes for them once we're finished. Both are younger girls who don't feel safe waiting outside alone, which is understandable. I obviously can't lock the door until they're outside so I have to wait with them but this is adding half an hour onto my shift when I just want to get home and go to bed, my taxi only usually takes 5 minutes to get there.
I talked to the manager about it and his answer was just tell them to wait outside and go....but I really don't want to leave 19 year old girls on their own late at night when they don't feel safe. I also don't want to be waiting at work longer than I need to, unpaid, after a long shift.
I've tried telling them when it looks like they're half an hour away from finishing so they can call their lifts but there always seems to be a delay, and there's no guarantee what time we will finish so they can't set a specific time.
AIBU to ask my manager to either sort
something out with the staff members
or let me stay clocked in until I can actually lock up and find some extra tasks so I'm at least being paid to be there?

Of course it is. It’s a manipulative and passive aggressive way of asking, and the OP needs to be better at dealing with it, but it’s certainly what the employees are doing.

It's ridiculous that you are more concerned about their safety than their own parents are.

The parents need to make sure they are there in time and if that means sitting in their car for a short while then so be it,. It's hardly a hardship is it?

I have this exact issue except I am the parent waiting to get the call to say come and collect my 20 year old. The issue is they don’t know when they will finish so can’t phone for the lift until then. There is no public transport that time of night. We sit waiting around for the call.

Either they have a set finish time so they can be collected, or your boss should pay you for waiting around.

My daughter would be scared on her own, thank you for caring. All these people saying they are adults, that’s true but they are young woman, outside a pub with drunks, in the dark, they can feel quite vulnerable, and us parents are waiting to hear when the pub will be closed, no set times, it’s a nightmare.

They’re 19 for goodness sake! I worked in a pub from age 17 and used to regularly walk home alone, wouldn’t have dreamed of asking for a lift or making my manager wait for me, how silly.

If it takes their parents 20-30 minutes to just DRIVE to the pub, imagine how long it would take these women to WALK home. In the dark.

If the parents are happy to pick them up then it's irrelevant what happened when you worked in a pub.

They are 19 years old and adults.
You are not their parent and are not responsible for them.

The world is no less safe than when I was young. Back in the 80s/90s it wasn’t safe to walk home alone, drinks were spiked, men did grab you in clubs and shout and whistle in the street. We knew it wasn’t safe to get drunk and stagger around alone. (I know your staff aren’t doing this OP). I’m saying this because people in general think others should be responsible for people who put themselves in a dangerous or vulnerable position.

BUT we had to fend for ourselves when we got jobs and went out with friends. That’s life!

Tell the girls it’s not safe for them to be waiting alone and tell them their parents must come sooner. That’s it! No further involvement from you is needed.

Agree!!

Leave sooner then and wait outside for her. How would she manage if you weren’t there

They have the opportunity to text 30 minutes in advance. Or get a taxi.

OP has already said she gives them 30 minutes heads up to call their parents and still it's taking 20-30 minutes more than that for the parents to arrive.
So either they're not bothering to call, relying on OP to wait with them, or the parents aren't bothering to set off when called, again relying on the OP to wait. Neither of those is within the OPs or her managers control so she shouldn't be expected to wait, nor should her boss expect to have to pay her for this waiting time, because of the inaction of other people.
They get the opportunity to get their parents there on time so no one is waiting, either the women or the parents aren't bothering.

If your daughter would be scared on her own, on the situation that OP describes, it's down to you as the parent who's picking up, to be there on time. OP said that she tells the girls to phone their parents half an hour before they're finished, but the parents often tell them they're not ready to leave yet.

If there's any risk to the young women (and I'm not convinced that there is) it's the parents who are causing that risk, not OP, who is entitled to go straight home.

There's 2 of them.

Tell them to wait together for their lifts until both cars turn up.

If they can't or won't do that, it's really on them, not you.

If you sit around waiting for the call, why not drive to the pub and sit waiting in your car?

The employer shouldn't have to pay OP to stand around chaperoning other employees whose own family can't be bothered to exert themselves.

Does no one read all of the OPs post these days?

” its two different women but on different days so it would be one waiting alone.”

If it were my child I would get there early, take a book and be prepared to wait. I wouldn't expect other staff to wait around for an extra 20-30 minutes.

They're grown adults working in a bar!!

Go home. They need to call their parents earlier and their parents need to be on time. Or they need to bike home or use a taxi or whatever. I worked in a bar age 18-22, i sorted myself out. I also never once expected a parent to ferry me about!! I got a taxi, walked, or cycled home.

Give them a half hour warning of when you will all be leaving, get them to let their lift know, and when it's time to go, just go. Suggest they chat on the phone to someone until their lift arrives if they feel uneasy.

Why can’t they get cabs?

I have waited but the finish time can vary so much. Waiting an hour to an hour and a half is not ideal. I feel if the employer can’t give a set finish time then they should ensure their staff have a way to get home if the area is not serviced by public transport and they can’t give an actual finish time.

The wait for a taxi can be 45 minutes to an hour but she is unable to pre book a taxi as she doesn’t know when she will finish.

I think the issue is the pub should close at a set time so staff can ensure safe passage home

Can't she use the family car?

The pub does close at a set time. Eg 11pm. It's just the close down process after punters have left, might take any where from 15 minutes to over an hour, depending on what needs to be done.

She is doing lessons but hasn’t past test yet

The pub does not close if they have events, parties etc, they have to stay until it finishes. She never finishes the same time

If this were my daughter I would get there for 11 or just afterwards if the pub closes at 11. If that meant hanging around in the car for a bit, so what?

These girls' parents are behaving in a very strange manner.

As for getting a cab home, I expect that would cost the night's wages.

The OP manages to get a taxi in 5 minutes. So presumably the girls can too ...

Or they could ask to share a taxi with OP etc.

Well, this is the decisions you make as an adult. Can you get yourself to and from job? Can you afford the taxi fare? No? Then as an adult you look for alternative roles or ways home etc.

If the girls don't want to wait alone, then they need to come up with a solution, such as waiting somewhere safer, ordering a taxi, pinging the message home 30 minutes before end of close up, find an alternative job etc. it really isn't for a colleague to sort. What if OP was a young girl herself? It's not unheard of for. 21 year old to be abar manager... Then what??