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AIBU to want his wife’s life?

94 replies

Girlll123 · 06/05/2024 10:55

Because I'm being vulnerable, please be gentle with me. I am aware that I am AIBU. I was in awful relationships and experienced extreme abuse as a child, which has left me unhappy.

To cut a long tale short, I met a wonderful married man (34m and I am 25F). I want the life of his wife, if that makes sense. To be clear, I don't fancy him. I've lost all faith in men, so I'm just amazed at how kind and loving he is to her. I wish I could have someone love me that much.

Because of my trauma, I feel like I will never have a happy family like theirs. They have two beautiful kids, and he treats her very nicely. I wish to live that kind of life. I wish I was her.

OP posts:
Girlll123 · 06/05/2024 12:33

Pieceofpurplesky · 06/05/2024 12:23

When you say you met a man, do you mean you are sleeping with him?

No. I meant that I met him through a shared hobby. He is very happy with his wife.

OP posts:
WaltzingWaters · 06/05/2024 12:34

On the one hand, you don’t know what their relationship is like - I’ve known couple I thought were perfect for each other and been shocked when they split.

But on the other hand, relationships likes that absolutely DO exist, and you can find a lovely man. I met mine at 30 and were incredibly happy, he’s lovely, hands on parent, hands on with housework, and an amazing partner. Focus on some counselling for yourself for now so you know that you deserve a happy and healthy relationship.

pikkumyy77 · 06/05/2024 12:50

One problem is this idea of the perfect marriage in which the man “treats” the woman “so well” and “gives” her so much” As though the woman is a pet or a child who exists only insofar as the all important man does things for her. Its infantilizing if the relationship and of the man. He isn’t perfect and she isn’t a cipher. The marriage is equally composed of the two of them doing loving things for each other—mattering to each other.

Don’t get me wrong. I’m in one of those happy marriages and my parents and grandparents were in those happy marriages but the arise out of choosing healthy/generous/kind/self actualized men who act consistently with care and ethically because that is who they are.

OP needs to raise her standards for men and raise her expectations for her relationship—she isn’t a passive recipient of male largesse. She is the author of her own story.

ChazsBrilliantAttitude · 06/05/2024 12:56

OP very good relationships exist but perfect ones don’t. No relationship will fix childhood trauma but the right one will give you a place to heal and grow. I had a less than ideal childhood and one of the factors that caused the issues was my father trying to fix his childhood by creating the perfect family around him. He found it unbearable when we didn’t manage to meet his expectations.

So think about what it is about their relationship that appeals to you and recognise that whatever your start in life, you deserve the same. If you can’t accept you deserve the same then you may need to unpick some trauma with a therapist.

AnnaCBi · 06/05/2024 12:58

Throwapple123 · 06/05/2024 11:20

Because appearances can be deceiving. The op shouldn't be envious of or compare themselves to others. I had a wonderful relationship on the outside, but in reality, he was a horrible narcissist who only treated me well in front of other people. Every relationship has problems.

I’d say no one is perfect, but honestly not every relationship has problems.

Livelovebehappy · 06/05/2024 13:14

TwattyMcFuckFace · 06/05/2024 12:15

And yet in millions of happy relationships everything is pretty much as it seems, which is what the OP should be looking at.

I'm sure the future is much brighter as long as she keeps her bar firmly raised, rather than being lead to believe that the happy relationships she sees around her are fake.

As I said, some, not all, relationships, are not what they seem. Of course op should strive to meet that special person, but it's easy when you're on your own, and I've been there, to be surrounded by people either your neighbours family and friends or even strangers in shopping mall, and feel you are the only person who can't get it right and that everyone has someone. There are a lot of very happy relationships, but op shouldn't think that every relationship she sees is a perfect one. That's not to say she won't find her happy ever after.

Vastlyoverrated · 06/05/2024 13:16

I think it's great that you can see this man is kind and a good partner and want that for yourself. Hold that in your mind when you go forward, you will meet people, but not all will have these qualities. There really are some good male partners out there.

IpsyUpsyDaisyDoos · 06/05/2024 14:18

Men like that do exist. I have one. I am aware that many men the opposite also exist (I have friends who are with them). Everyone deserves to be with a partner who treats them right. But they are out there, so don't give up hope.

Apolloneuro · 06/05/2024 14:24

This is going to sound very patronising, but OP, you start by treating yourself that well.

Eat healthy
sleep
move your body in a way you think is fun
speak kindly to yourself
look in the mirror and say a couple of positive affirmations
make connections with nice people.

You may then attract a good man into your life. If you don’t, you’re still happy.

You've survived a shitty start. You’re already more incredible than you realise!

SpideyVerse · 06/05/2024 14:28

Runningbird43 · 06/05/2024 11:16

Why jump to that theory? Why lower the bar back to the floor?

o/p look at it the other way. Men like that do exist. There are men out there that do treat women well, as equals, and genuinely share their lives. It likely isn’t perfect, and they probably row over whose turn it is to empty the dishwasher, but good relationships can be found.

use their relationship to set your bar high. Don’t accept shitty treatment, find a man who treats you like this man treats his wife. Keep throwing them back until you find a good one. You are worth it, and you deserve it.

Spot on.

Abeona · 06/05/2024 14:36

Maybe reframe this to seek out a relationship that is as good as this one (looks).

I think this is helpful. You have no real idea, OP, what his relationship is really like, but hang on to your image of this man's behaviour as something to look for if you decide, in the future, to look for a man. Just bear in mind that some men who are lovely to their partners in public are vile to them in private. Look for a man who's as good to you in private as in public. Good luck. You deserve better.

Decorhate · 06/05/2024 14:39

@Girlll123 The best advice I can give you (or anyone) is to work on being content with your own life, your own company and not think that it would be better if you had a husband or more money or a different job. Yes these things can add to your happiness but if you are happy in yourself you will be a stronger, more resilient person.

So many people are afraid to be on their own and so make poor choices in partners that they regret later.

BusyCM · 06/05/2024 14:41

Throwapple123 · 06/05/2024 11:20

Because appearances can be deceiving. The op shouldn't be envious of or compare themselves to others. I had a wonderful relationship on the outside, but in reality, he was a horrible narcissist who only treated me well in front of other people. Every relationship has problems.

No you're right. It's far better that instead of knowing there are nice people in the world and good things are possible in her future, she should definitely believe that no matter how lovely someone's life can appear, chances are, they are actually living with an abuser and are secretly miserable and in a horrible marriage.

What a little ray of sunshine you are!

Schoolchoicesucks · 06/05/2024 14:42

Runningbird43 · 06/05/2024 11:16

Why jump to that theory? Why lower the bar back to the floor?

o/p look at it the other way. Men like that do exist. There are men out there that do treat women well, as equals, and genuinely share their lives. It likely isn’t perfect, and they probably row over whose turn it is to empty the dishwasher, but good relationships can be found.

use their relationship to set your bar high. Don’t accept shitty treatment, find a man who treats you like this man treats his wife. Keep throwing them back until you find a good one. You are worth it, and you deserve it.

Great post

BlancheSaysYes · 06/05/2024 14:44

BodenCardiganNot · 06/05/2024 12:31

it’s also what we tell ourselves about the impossibly fantastic lives we see on instagram and face book etc. We wont always see what their life isreally like.

Life would be so much better for so many people if only they would stop scrolling Instagram and Facebook and lived their own lives.

Instagram isn't real. People upload flattering photographs of themselves and their families having wonderful times. Each scene and each reel is carefully curated for maximum effect. Life isn't always fabulous and fun. It can be good though, and there will be a lovely man out there who will love you and cherish you and you can live the life of your dreams.

KateMiskin · 06/05/2024 14:46

I used to be married to a man who treated me very well in public. He treated me very badly in private. It was all a facade.

savethatkitty · 06/05/2024 14:48

Comparison is the thief of joy. Appearances can be deceiving. You will find your own happiness.

sunflowrsngunpowdr · 06/05/2024 14:53

If you have disposable in come invest in yourself - a good therapist who can help you with your past trauma would be a starting point.

Lurkingandlearning · 06/05/2024 14:54

@Runningbird43 best bit of advice I’ve seen related to this subject ever. I wish someone had said that to me when I was OPs age

Polishedshoesalways · 06/05/2024 14:54

It sounds like you are in a relationship with this MM so he is far from the kind of man that would ever treasure you in the way you are looking for.

This always starts with self love - deciding right now that the crumbs of his affection is not good enough for you - that you will settle for nothing no one short of devoting their life to cherishing you. Be grateful they have shown you what you want/looking for. Use his wife as a standard bearer. Would she tolerate this? How would she manage a first date? She knows her worth, and so can you. This works well for people that have no shining examples in their lives or childhoods - and have nothing to base their standards on.

You can have her life by finishing with him, and choosing to spend time with men that respect you, start with friendships with men that value you, aim high - be authentic and real. Be in control and know your weaknesses and trigger points.

Therapy as an adult is completely different give it a try. Good luck

NewPinkJacket · 06/05/2024 14:56

Polishedshoesalways · 06/05/2024 14:54

It sounds like you are in a relationship with this MM so he is far from the kind of man that would ever treasure you in the way you are looking for.

This always starts with self love - deciding right now that the crumbs of his affection is not good enough for you - that you will settle for nothing no one short of devoting their life to cherishing you. Be grateful they have shown you what you want/looking for. Use his wife as a standard bearer. Would she tolerate this? How would she manage a first date? She knows her worth, and so can you. This works well for people that have no shining examples in their lives or childhoods - and have nothing to base their standards on.

You can have her life by finishing with him, and choosing to spend time with men that respect you, start with friendships with men that value you, aim high - be authentic and real. Be in control and know your weaknesses and trigger points.

Therapy as an adult is completely different give it a try. Good luck

How do you know more than the OP who has stated that she's not in a relationship with him and doesn't even fancy him? Confused

Badburyrings · 06/05/2024 14:58

AnnaCBi · 06/05/2024 12:58

I’d say no one is perfect, but honestly not every relationship has problems.

Agree with this. I married a nice man who is nice to me and respectful etc and we genuinely don't have any relationship problems.

Screamingabdabz · 06/05/2024 14:59

My DH is lovely and all of our friendship group have decent men who are attentive husbands. They are out there op. You just have to settle for no less and have a high bar. I kissed a lot of frogs and fake prince charmings until I found someone with integrity and good values. Don’t give up!

Badburyrings · 06/05/2024 14:59

Polishedshoesalways · 06/05/2024 14:54

It sounds like you are in a relationship with this MM so he is far from the kind of man that would ever treasure you in the way you are looking for.

This always starts with self love - deciding right now that the crumbs of his affection is not good enough for you - that you will settle for nothing no one short of devoting their life to cherishing you. Be grateful they have shown you what you want/looking for. Use his wife as a standard bearer. Would she tolerate this? How would she manage a first date? She knows her worth, and so can you. This works well for people that have no shining examples in their lives or childhoods - and have nothing to base their standards on.

You can have her life by finishing with him, and choosing to spend time with men that respect you, start with friendships with men that value you, aim high - be authentic and real. Be in control and know your weaknesses and trigger points.

Therapy as an adult is completely different give it a try. Good luck

Nowhere in the thread does the OP mention she is in any sort of relationship with this man. She is not, she met him at a hobby.

Polishedshoesalways · 06/05/2024 15:03

Badburyrings · 06/05/2024 14:59

Nowhere in the thread does the OP mention she is in any sort of relationship with this man. She is not, she met him at a hobby.

Well the rest of the post still stands. It sounds like she is in a relationship as otherwise I can’t see the point of putting ages and sex etc, it read like she had met him and liked him - but anyway the point still stands just ignore the relationship part.

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