AIBU to think that all the recent threads about benefits are heading too far towards online bullying?

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The way disabled people are being treated and spoken about on here in recent days is disgusting. It is verging on online hate crimes and if ithey were about other marginalised groups would not have been allowed to stand by MNHQ.

The disinformation, the sneering, the complete lack of compassion from so many Mumsnetters is vile.

Disability for the very most part isn't something that people bring onto themselves. Parents don't do anything but have different luck to you and have a disabled child.

My genetics are different to yours so I have a fucked up immune system and the host of problems that has given me.

My DH had a horrific upbringing which has led him to have MH problems- he works by the way. I did too for a long time until my body couldn't cope.

My DC was injured at birth due to a hospital fault.

My neighbour fell off his bike and has a traumatic brain injury.

My friend has breast cancer.

My cousin is dead at 38 due to epilepsy.

My nephew is so unhappy due to his ADHD bot letting him fit in at school and my sister is having trouble helping him through it due to hers.

Why are we so unworthy to you?

Are we not due the same courtesy of online treatment as those of different races and religion...or does that go out the window as you pay for us?

@MNHQ why is it acceptable for you to allow your users to bully the marginalised on this site?

I did 🙂 if you don’t want to believe me, thats up to you.

But to a certain extent people don't have to post about relying on benefits, you do so knowing others will comment.

Having brought up a dd with a disability and worked, and dp did the same for his dd we know that people do work with disabled children, the bigger issue is men walking away

Well we've been told they can't fit one in these flats. I don't know why, Welsh Water said its not possible, so that's it.

I always see this on here. "Start your own business." Like it's that bloody easy. I have no disabilities, no mental health problems, and there's no way I could deal with running my own business!

Well done you OP 🩷🩷🩷🩷
for voicing this wonderful 😊

Fair enough, you don’t have to believe me. I understand that people say all sorts on here.

She was asked if she would start her own coffee van business.
Silence......

What?

The only naivety on this thread is people imagining that a life on benefits is easy and is a choice for many.

Fraudulent claims for disabilities is tiny but you're right I do know several business owners who play the system. It's called tax evasion and the amount of wealthy people/companies that do it makes the small number of fake benefits claimants look like rank amateurs.

Yes, every single one of them MUST be lying 😂

Fair comment but if they choose to be unfit for work through their own lifestyle choices, drink and drugs, then they can't expect us to work to feed their habits with copious benefits.

I was being facetious

Why?

I'd say 99% are.

Oddly enough, I don't find any of this funny.

I always find it funny how people bang on about benefit claimants getting this, that and the other for nothing but you never see these people just giving up their jobs if benefits are that cushy, do you? 🤣 and I’d bet my bottom dollar not one of you would choose to be permanently disabled so you could live the high life on PIP 🤣🤣 absolutely ridiculous

Yet somehow not as lazy as your stereotypes.

Well, lucky for you that you have encountered the 1% right here.

@Apricotsaretheonlyfruit you know I have a vague memory of having a job, really faint but it comes back to me from time to time.....I think I paid something called tax, it was high rate.
My DH does something funny with his pay too but his isn't as good as mine was he only pays 20%..
But do you what's really funny cause when I paid tax and now when I don't I have this wee thing that I think your missing...

Its called compassion.

If you want to take that as bullying go for it. Or maybe dwell on it overnight, or longer

This is utter bollocks.
Should women avoid going past builders who might heckle and harass them?
Should a black person avoid an area where racist graffiti abounds?
Should a jewish person not look openly jewish in an area where people shout antisemitic abuse?
Should we all just look the other way and avoid bigotry and predjudice?
Mumsnet is open to all and should not have no go threads which disabled people must not read to enable hate to flourish without being challenged.

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I don't believe it happens to anywhere near the extent these days that some are claiming it does no.

Having helped many people with their forms I'm acutely aware how difficult PIP is to get. I call utter bullshit on anyone who suggests it's easy.

No-one's on a high horse, like many they are tired of working to keep others. Over the years life style choices have become legitimised and are now used as a reason not to bother with work. However this is such a polarised topic that it will never end well.

Nice meme, gif or whatever it’s called.

Sorry, I meant the person that kept going on at me about starting a coffees van... she was asked if she would do the same. No reply.

I’d love to see some of the anger and hate redirected towards businesses like Amazon who operate in the U.K. but avoid paying billions in tax every year or multimillionaires who use every tax loophole their very expensive accountants can find and pay less tax than someone on PAYE who earns a tenth of what they do.

Waste all your time and anger on people who get a few thousand in benefits that you feel they don’t deserve - or that you’d deserve more - and ignore the billionaires who lobby the millionaires in government to twist the system in their favour.