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Humiliated by John Lewis staff

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FTMaz · 01/05/2024 21:53

Hi
okay so I know this will seem very trivial to some but it is playing on my mind because I think I am a very reasonable and polite person and feel I was humiliated for absolutely no reason.

so I bought a jumper from a John Lewis store (Sweaty Beaty brand). The jumper was in the sale for £65. I wore it once and washed it according to the instructions. I put it on yesterday and my Mum commented that it had faded, the jumper is beige but I noticed it had a big white patch where the colour had seemingly ran out of it on the front. As I know John Lewis is known for their customer service I decided I would take it to the store to see if they would offer an exchange, I still had the receipt showing it had been purchased recently.

I went to the womenswear till but the queue was massive (I had my 12 week old baby with me) so I went to a till near the shoes. The girl serving must have been about 17/18. I explained to her what had happened and said I wasn’t sure if I could swap it but thought it was worth an ask. The girl was very polite but said she needed to check with a colleague, fine not a problem. She returned with a colleague who didn’t even acknowledge me. At this point there was a now a queue at the till. They both turned away from me and girl number 2 started whispering and inspecting the jumper. This probably went on for about 10 minutes. Girl number 1 then turned back to me and said something to the effect of I’m really sorry but I need to check with a manager…I assumed girl 2 was a manager but again I said okay. She then called someone on the phone. I continued to wait and at this point my baby started to cry, girl number 1 obviously feeling uncomfortable called again and apologised, again fine as not her fault that baby is crying or that manager is taking a long time. So eventually the manager turns up and calls me ‘sweetheart’ okay a term of endearment but I am a 34 year old professional so odd of her to do. Anyway…she inspects the jumper and says she can’t see the white patch, I said to her I couldn’t either until I went into natural light and my Mum pointed it out. At this point I am starting to feel agitated and embarrassed as there is a queue, my baby is crying and I am basically being told I’m making things up so I say ‘don’t worry about it for the sake of £60 I’ll just have the jumper back,’ she then says to go with her outside the store to natural light to show her the patch…seriously? I reply no it’s fine I’m not dragging my baby outside I’ll just have the jumper back. Again she insists I go outside with her and I again say it’s fine I’ll have the jumper back. She then turns to girl number 1 and says ‘you’ll come with me outside to look won’t you’ so they both then walk off and leave me at the till with my now screaming baby. Sometime later they return with ANOTHER member of staff, so now 4 people have looked at this bloody jumper! The manager says they all agree there is nothing wrong with it. Now I am quite frankly pissed off and humiliated and say ‘ I told you I would take the jumper back but instead I have been standing here whilst 4 people inspect it, I didn’t demand a refund I simply asked if it was possible to do anything such as an exchange.’ She replies there’s nothing wrong with it. So I say (probably wrongly so but I’d had enough) ‘if you go on my account you will see how much money I spend in this store, do you seriously think I would make things up to get back £60?’ She replies again there is nothing wrong with it.

for context I worked in retail for years both before starting university, during and after (the irony is I actually also worked in that John Lewis 😂) I get that it can sometimes be shit and people are rude but I was honestly lovely and feel I was humiliated and spoken to like an idiot.

However I am also overly tired from the sleepless nights….so AIBU to wait to complain to the store?

OP posts:
doingitbythebookthistime · 01/05/2024 21:55

I don't think we can vote until we see the suspected white patch OP Grin

MissingMoominMamma · 01/05/2024 21:57

I think you should write to their customer services and tell them what an uncomfortable experience it was for you in their store!

bridgetreilly · 01/05/2024 21:57

I think it was honestly all in your head.

FTMaz · 01/05/2024 21:57

doingitbythebookthistime · 01/05/2024 21:55

I don't think we can vote until we see the suspected white patch OP Grin

😂😂😂 I’m over the return of the jumper now I don’t even want to take it back! I just want to know if I’m being over sensitive about the way I was spoken to and the 4 bloody staff!

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soupfiend · 01/05/2024 21:58

If Im honest I dont understand why you didnt go outside and show it to her

To say you werent going to go and 'drag your baby outside' didnt make any sense, you were presumably going to leave the store at some point werent you?

FTMaz · 01/05/2024 21:58

bridgetreilly · 01/05/2024 21:57

I think it was honestly all in your head.

What was the white patch? Well my mum pointed it out 😂

im over the return of the jumper I’m bothered about the experience in store

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StrawberrySquash · 01/05/2024 21:59

They sound like they faffed around an awful lot, but I would have gone outside if that was the sensible way to show them the damage. It's not their fault if the indoor light is unhelpful.

FTMaz · 01/05/2024 21:59

soupfiend · 01/05/2024 21:58

If Im honest I dont understand why you didnt go outside and show it to her

To say you werent going to go and 'drag your baby outside' didnt make any sense, you were presumably going to leave the store at some point werent you?

Hi
it’s in a shopping centre so going outside isn’t just like stepping out the door, you’d have to go out the whole centre

OP posts:
Branster · 01/05/2024 21:59

But then she'd probably have to come back inside for a replacement or refund.
Not on.
With a crying baby in tow as well.

soupfiend · 01/05/2024 21:59

FTMaz · 01/05/2024 21:59

Hi
it’s in a shopping centre so going outside isn’t just like stepping out the door, you’d have to go out the whole centre

Yes as you would to go home presumably?

52fifty · 01/05/2024 22:00

bridgetreilly · 01/05/2024 21:57

I think it was honestly all in your head.

Same. I think you are overtired as you say. It doesn't sound great, but it sounded like they actually put effort into finding a fault and you reacted quite strangely insisting it's only £60 etc

FTMaz · 01/05/2024 22:00

soupfiend · 01/05/2024 21:59

Yes as you would to go home presumably?

Yes but it would involve going out and coming back in. I think it’s a silly thing to suggest. If she wasn’t going to return it fine but why didn’t she just give me the jumper back?

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bridgetreilly · 01/05/2024 22:01

Not the white patch, the perceived humiliation.

PrincessFionaCharming · 01/05/2024 22:01

”for the sake of £60…”

is it just me who thinks that’s actually quite a lot 😶

ApolloandDaphne · 01/05/2024 22:01

It really can't have been noticeable if no one could see it except your mum. Are you sure it wasn't just the way the light hit it?

FTMaz · 01/05/2024 22:01

StrawberrySquash · 01/05/2024 21:59

They sound like they faffed around an awful lot, but I would have gone outside if that was the sensible way to show them the damage. It's not their fault if the indoor light is unhelpful.

No I agree with that…I’m not bothered about them refusing the return to be honest I just think the whole experience wasn’t good customer service.

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soupfiend · 01/05/2024 22:02

FTMaz · 01/05/2024 22:00

Yes but it would involve going out and coming back in. I think it’s a silly thing to suggest. If she wasn’t going to return it fine but why didn’t she just give me the jumper back?

Perhaps she was trying to help. REturning things is always a faff, theres always a queue, then having to explain, then explain again, then looking and talking, then perhaps in your case needing a different type of light

60 quid is a lot for a jumper, perhaps they found you odd saying you would just have the jumper back after they're trhing to suggest a way to help.

Sounds like you could have managed it a bit better but your stress levels were high no doubt

StillYourFavouriteRegret · 01/05/2024 22:02

Why did you ask for a refund then basically retract it in a huff??

You weren't 'dragging' your baby outside at all, so much drama. If you'd gone outside in the light it might all have been resolved instead of all this snippy 'I'll take it back' nonsense.

ICanFixHim · 01/05/2024 22:02

I would contact Sweaty Betty directly with really good photos of the patch and receipt.

FTMaz · 01/05/2024 22:02

PrincessFionaCharming · 01/05/2024 22:01

”for the sake of £60…”

is it just me who thinks that’s actually quite a lot 😶

No…it’s not cheap at all but I was annoyed that they made me feel like I was begging for this return or something.

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FTMaz · 01/05/2024 22:02

ICanFixHim · 01/05/2024 22:02

I would contact Sweaty Betty directly with really good photos of the patch and receipt.

That’s a good idea. Thank you

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Glass113 · 01/05/2024 22:03

It sounds like they were going out of their way to be on your side otherwise it just would have been a straight no.

StillYourFavouriteRegret · 01/05/2024 22:04

ICanFixHim · 01/05/2024 22:02

I would contact Sweaty Betty directly with really good photos of the patch and receipt.

Yep- I'd imagine the staff were trying to be sure because they might have to return it to Sweaty Betty, and eat the cost if they couldn't see the white patch.

FTMaz · 01/05/2024 22:04

StillYourFavouriteRegret · 01/05/2024 22:02

Why did you ask for a refund then basically retract it in a huff??

You weren't 'dragging' your baby outside at all, so much drama. If you'd gone outside in the light it might all have been resolved instead of all this snippy 'I'll take it back' nonsense.

As I said the store is in a shopping centre so it’s not a case of just stepping out the door. You would need to leave the whole place, then come back in etc. To be honest the way she was speaking to me just wasn’t good.

OP posts:
Eyesopenwideawake · 01/05/2024 22:04

Why didn't you go to the customer service desk rather than a till?

Maybe missing the point

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