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Royal Family

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TedTheCat · 28/04/2024 22:48

I was chatting to friends earlier today who had mixed opinions on the Royals and whether they support them.

I would prefer not to have a Royal Family, but wonder what other people think.

YABU - Keep the Royal Family

YANBU - Get rid of the Royal Family

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wordler · 29/04/2024 13:36

We have a constitutional monarchy as our head of state.

The royal family is there to support the head of state in however the monarch directs them to, including being his representative for the government when requested by the government.

We have a very simple way to remove the royal family - as a country we choose to have a different parliamentary model.

If the entire Windsor branch upped and left tomorrow we’d still have a constitutional monarchy - it would just be a different family branch who would be the new ‘royal family’.

TheCryingTheBitchAndTheFloordrobe · 29/04/2024 13:38

Definitely get rid. I can't wait until they're gone along with the creepy fawning they inspire. They're all gross.

Grenwyn · 29/04/2024 13:40

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wordler · 29/04/2024 13:41

Well I say the concept is simple the process would be long and convoluted and make Brexit look like a walk in the park.

It’s the work of decades and will cost billions - the up side is that you only have to do it once of course and then it’s done.

But you’ve got to get a government in power with enough political capital to push through something that will be contentious and costly every step of the ways for years.

PleaseletitbeSpring · 29/04/2024 13:42

I'd love to see them gone. All that bowing and scraping to people who are only in that position by an accident of birth is sickening.

An elected president who is only allowed a four year term could carry out the non ceremonial duties. They would be out on their ear quickly enough if they were awful.

ginasevern · 29/04/2024 13:48

Get rid of them. To be fair it's only a matter of time. Under 30's don't support them and they find it a distasteful anachronism so it will all die a death and not before time.

If anyone is in any doubt about the RF's excessive privilege and completely out of touch lifestyles/outlook (which is the understatement of the century) take a look at the article below:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/royals/article-13319015/Hanoverian-Housekeeping-revealed-silver-boxes-grab.html

The Royal Family's 'Hanoverian Housekeeping' revealed 

Outwardly, they give the impression of being frugal and parsimonious - which they are - but it does not apply to what they eat, drink, wear, drive and ride, says Brian Hoey.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/royals/article-13319015/Hanoverian-Housekeeping-revealed-silver-boxes-grab.html

Livingtothefull · 29/04/2024 13:49

@Grenwyn your post is blatantly racist, I have reported it.

Grenwyn · 29/04/2024 13:50

Livingtothefull · 29/04/2024 13:49

@Grenwyn your post is blatantly racist, I have reported it.

How so? Stating a fact about changing demographics isn't racist. I suggest you look up the definition of the word if you're going to throw it out so freely. Insane.

AliceKyteler · 29/04/2024 13:51

Livingtothefull · 29/04/2024 09:46

'However, if someone like Harry or Andrew were ever to become the monarch...I couldn't stomach that'

2 points on this:

If you believe in hereditary monarchy you don't get to choose who is in line. If you think we should choose the best suited person then you may as well do away with monarchy altogether.

Also, the casual lumping together of Harry & Andrew (which happens so often) sets my teeth on edge. Whatever you think of Harry he left the RF, is no longer funded by the public and made a different choice for himself - something that millions of people do without it being questioned. He does not 'owe' the public anything.

He also has not been accused of any crimes - unlike Andrew. Who by the way has been publicly supported by his family while Harry has been very publicly cast out. Do you honestly think their behaviour shows our country in a good light?

Yes and Charles was also close friends with Savile and fully supported the former church of England bishop Peter Ball AFTER he was exposed as an abuser of numerous young men.
Plus years of infidelity.
But yes let's ignore all that and hate Harry and Meghan instead.

Idontfinkso · 29/04/2024 13:52

Thedogscollar · 28/04/2024 22:50

What would be your preference to replace the RF?

Why would we replace them? They don’t need replacing. We still would have the Tower of London, Bucks. palace, changing of the guard et all - it’s not like you pay your £30 to get into Buckingham Palace and get 5 mins chat with Charlie, is it?

IncognitoIsMyFavouriteWord · 29/04/2024 13:54

They can move into Windsor Castle, Balmoral, and Sandringham. They can keep Buckingham Palace if they pay for the maintenance. If not, then it's ours for tourism.

Then they can shrink into obscurity, and we can become a Republic. The rest of the houses are to do as we wish. (Social housing).

Idontfinkso · 29/04/2024 13:54

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So, in your tiny little mind anyone born in Britain with not-white- skin isn’t really British?
Racist twattery that whole ‘we’ll be a minority’ bollocks

Idontfinkso · 29/04/2024 13:55

IncognitoIsMyFavouriteWord · 29/04/2024 13:54

They can move into Windsor Castle, Balmoral, and Sandringham. They can keep Buckingham Palace if they pay for the maintenance. If not, then it's ours for tourism.

Then they can shrink into obscurity, and we can become a Republic. The rest of the houses are to do as we wish. (Social housing).

This - all day long. All that land too? Why the deck to we support it and kowtow to these people who just happen to be born richer than us?

Idontfinkso · 29/04/2024 13:56

‘We have a constitutional monarchy as our head of state. ‘

Easily rectified.

Grenwyn · 29/04/2024 13:57

Idontfinkso · 29/04/2024 13:54

So, in your tiny little mind anyone born in Britain with not-white- skin isn’t really British?
Racist twattery that whole ‘we’ll be a minority’ bollocks

White British is an ethnicity in case you were unaware. I didn't say a person isn't British if they aren't white.

Are you stupid or just a race baiting dipshit?

FearYeTheDeadlyBisonAndItsToxicYogurt · 29/04/2024 14:08

Toddlerteaplease · 29/04/2024 09:20

Completely agree. We must not throw away over a thousand years of history.

In that case, we should bring back plague, trial by ordeal and the practice of sending children down t'pit.

wordler · 29/04/2024 14:13

Idontfinkso · 29/04/2024 13:56

‘We have a constitutional monarchy as our head of state. ‘

Easily rectified.

In principle it is very simple - the country decides on a new parliamentary system and votes on it.

However the practice of converting to the new systems and making the hundreds of probably thousands of decisions and choices to unravel and restitch all the different parts of the country that are affected by the current system if going to be long and expensive.

When it happens it will probably be a lifetime’s work for whichever constitutional lawyers and political committees that are tasked with the work of changing everything.

It’s why no political party ever takes it on as a serious campaign promise because the whole thing will be a nightmare for the party that’s in charge when it happens.

FearYeTheDeadlyBisonAndItsToxicYogurt · 29/04/2024 14:15

Thedogscollar · 28/04/2024 22:50

What would be your preference to replace the RF?

They don't need to be replaced, that is the point.

cyclamenqueen · 29/04/2024 14:16

CurlewKate · 29/04/2024 09:33

@cyclamenqueen "One problem with getting rid of the wider family is the need for people to do visits etc. "

Why do we need people to do visits?

Because people keep asking for them , but if you read the rest of my post ( maybe I wasn’t clear ) I said that if they keep having to refuse because there aren’t enough royals people will lose interest , which on balance would be a good thing .

Applescruffle · 29/04/2024 14:19

@Livingtothefull "If you believe in hereditary monarchy you don't get to choose who is in line."

Hmmm pretty sure that's exactly what happened many times over the centuries by people who have very much claimed to beleive in hereditary Monarchy.

Leeksinthesun · 29/04/2024 14:21

GrumpyPanda · 29/04/2024 12:20

If you check the visitor numbers for Versailles I believe you'll find "history as USP" works perfectly well without real-life mascots to accompany it.

The Versailles argument always makes me roll my eyes. Versailles is very beautiful, of course it and it's history will bring millions of visitors but a real life, history unfolding in front of you brings a greater overall relevant interest. Versailles is just one place.

cerisepanther73 · 29/04/2024 14:25

@TedTheCat
I do have mixed feelings about the idea 💡 of Monacary,

I don't think 🤔 they are as popular or seen as relevant as used to be especially since the queen's passing,
Part of her appeal obviously related to her being from and involved being with second World War generation and war efforts,
" we are in this together ect,"

"a reasuring presence despite lots of change and instability,"

Now she has gone .....

tara66 · 29/04/2024 14:32

They are not as pretty or as good looking as they used to be. Think of young Phillip, Elizabeth and Margaret - stunning (GC Townsend too but not a royal of course).
One now sees the royals photos all the time - but they are not very attractive .
I need good looking royals only. Kate is fine but the others - no.
But I am a very visual person and also very shallow.

Allergictoironing · 29/04/2024 14:35

Patchymum · 29/04/2024 13:32

Yes I know that, but the current genetic line was.

Well sort of, vaguely, if you include some 2nd/3rd cousins & the like. And some with questionable parentage, including things like unfaithful queens and twice-married kings conveniently "forgetting" or denying first wives. And a few diversions down the female line (which wasn't acceptable in Medieval times, was always males first unless you ran out of them). And "next in line" being determined by religion rather than blood closeness (Hanovarians replacing Stuarts).

Applescruffle · 29/04/2024 14:42

tara66 · 29/04/2024 14:32

They are not as pretty or as good looking as they used to be. Think of young Phillip, Elizabeth and Margaret - stunning (GC Townsend too but not a royal of course).
One now sees the royals photos all the time - but they are not very attractive .
I need good looking royals only. Kate is fine but the others - no.
But I am a very visual person and also very shallow.

Kate is beautiful as is Meghan. William is meh but I wouldn't kick Harry out of bed.

The children are all very beautiful too.

Princess Anne was a stunner when she was younger.

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