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AIBU for not wanting my child to be called "cheeky monkey" by the staff at a nursery every time they greet him?

127 replies

ekatk · 26/04/2024 12:03

My DS is 3.5 and is quite an active child and lately I noticed that one of the staff members at the nursery calls him "cheeky monkey" every time she sees him. I don't want him to feel "branded" with this and think that it's a norm to call someone this word all the time, cause someone might consider this offencing. Should I talk to the nursery staff or AIBU? What would you do?

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kitsuneghost · 26/04/2024 13:23

MerryChristmasToYou · 26/04/2024 13:19

Isn't that racist in itself?

I kind of think so too. But there was uproar when a cheeky monkey t-shirt was put on a dark skinned child in an advert so I would just avoid using it toward racial minorities just in case
Though I quite like the term, I find it cute.

Wellhellooooodear · 26/04/2024 13:24

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Pointshopgirl · 26/04/2024 13:24

YABU and overthinking this

Sapiens · 26/04/2024 13:25

SilverBranchGoldenPears · 26/04/2024 12:40

Unless you are a black Briton or otherwise a POC, please don’t be that parent!!!

So white kids can only be called terms of endearment. Got it.

MerryChristmasToYou · 26/04/2024 13:26

So if a child who looked white was always taken to and from the nursery by a white parent was called 'monkey' by a member of staff, and the parents took offence because the child was mixed race, where would the nursery stand?

Ineedwinenow · 26/04/2024 13:26

This isn’t a wind up is it? I’d only worry if they started calling him a little shit, cheeky monkey is a term of endearment

Princesspollyyy · 26/04/2024 13:27

If you don't want them to call him that, the next time they do, just say "Sorry I know you don't mean anything by it but could you stop saying 'cheeky monkey' as I really dislike it"

MinervaMcGonagallsCat · 26/04/2024 13:28

Unclench and breathe.

They are being nice. Not branding him.

YABU

TheKeatingFive · 26/04/2024 13:29

There's big PFB energy here

Love51 · 26/04/2024 13:31

MerryChristmasToYou · 26/04/2024 13:19

Isn't that racist in itself?

No.
Because black people have had the experience of having monkey used as a racial slur, it us covered in the press periodically when it is directed at a footballer. White people will not have had it used as a slur, only a term of endearment. A poster earlier explained that this is why it was triggering for her to have her child addressed like this.

My mum is in her late 70s. Some time back she had a chat with me and my brother because she knew that language was evolving and she didn't want to say anything that in her head sounded OK but to the listener might be offensive. The first thing that came to mind was calling my cousins' kids (mixed race) monkeys.

DameMargaretofChalfont · 26/04/2024 13:32

OP - I really hope this thread is a wind up!!

If not, you seriously need to get a grip!

"Cheeky Monkey" is NOT branding a child - it's a term of affection!

Kitkat1523 · 26/04/2024 13:32

Ffs 🙄

MerryChristmasToYou · 26/04/2024 13:36

@Love51, you're saying 'cheeky monkey' is offensive if the child is black or mixed race but not if the child isn't?

LateAF · 26/04/2024 13:36

Sapiens · 26/04/2024 13:25

So white kids can only be called terms of endearment. Got it.

There's not a comparative word for this analogy - but let's just imagine the phrase "cheeky bimbo" became a term of endearment for boys and girls alike - surely you can imagine a situation where girl parents get offended by their daughter being endearingly referred to as "cheeky bimbo" because that term was historically used in a pejorative way towards women. Would you then say "so boys only can be called terms of endearment- got it" in that scenario?

Can you now see why it can be problematic to call a black child "monkey", even endearingly, in circumstances where monkey is still used as a racist term for black people around the world, including in this country (just go to your average football league game and see some of the chants occasionally made at black players)?

Conkersinautumn · 26/04/2024 13:38

It's rude and hardly professional NEVER heard it as a term of endearment here.

FiveLamps · 26/04/2024 13:39

LightDrizzle · 26/04/2024 12:17

I do feel sorry for people working in schools and childcare these days.

On the one hand they are firefighting issues with the products of 3rd generation poor parenting who arrive at nursery and school never having sat at a table; had a regular bedtime; or been read a story. Then they have to accommodate parents nitpicking at every tiny thing they could possibly take offence at.

Yep.

Seriously OP, let it go.

Concretejungle1 · 26/04/2024 13:43

MerryChristmasToYou · 26/04/2024 13:05

I would gladly be that parent. My DC weren't called it because they were girls.

It irritates me to see it on clothing. It is gender stereotyping.
Same goes for Dude, Devil, Angel and Princess.

Edited

Its really not. I was called it as child.
I had this nicknamed growing up,along with little devil. I’m a woman.

SevenSeasOfRhye · 26/04/2024 13:44

If you have to think about a child's skin colour before using a phrase, it's best to find another phrase to use.

eatdrinkandbemerry · 26/04/2024 13:44

Your going to be one of those parents once your child starts school 🤷‍♀️

Universalsnail · 26/04/2024 13:44

I think you are being completely rediculous sorry 😅

aridiculousargument · 26/04/2024 13:45

OP- is your child white?
@ekatk

LandArt · 26/04/2024 13:46

Beginningless · 26/04/2024 12:24

I think some of the replies are a bit harsh. I get you, if it’s not a phrase you like or would use. Tbh I found nursery staff would say all kinds of shit that I wish they wouldn’t say, but like this, I don’t think you’d achieve a lot by raising it. Some of this is just what we deal with when we entrust other people to care for our kids.

I had to ask our childminder to stop calling toddler DS ‘a little tinker’. It was intended entirely affectionately, but it’s an old-fashioned pejorative term for Traveller in my home country, and I just couldn’t listen to it.

TheGoddessFrigg · 26/04/2024 13:47

However, I am definitely going to start using the phrase 'You funny onion' more. It's just adorable

PrincessHoneysuckle · 26/04/2024 13:47

You're being precious sorry.
I work in a school and we call the children many names inc

Love
Sweetheart
Darling
Chicken

All sorts really. Yorkshire and we like our terms of endearment.

DappledThings · 26/04/2024 13:48

Conkersinautumn · 26/04/2024 13:38

It's rude and hardly professional NEVER heard it as a term of endearment here.

Is it rude and unprofessional that there a multitude of nurseries called Cheeky Monkeys which are implying that every child on their books is a cheeky monkey?

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