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To teach all day for £11.90 p/h?

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Sooooootired01 · 25/04/2024 18:05

I'm a qualified teacher primarily working as a SEN HLTA. Pay £11.60 an hour. OK I guess.
Last week I covered for a teacher who had gone on residential. This meant teaching all day from Monday - Wednesday, a full and routine curriculum of English and Maths etc. 30 kids in a class, no supervision, completely left to own devices. Again, I'm qualified so fair enough. Lessons preplanned but of course still needed delivery.
AIBU to think that paying me rate of £11.60 p/h for this is not OK?

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TheChosenTwo · 25/04/2024 18:07

Are you contracted as an HLTA or as a class teacher?

Lumpalicious · 25/04/2024 18:07

Isn’t minimum wage £11.62 p/h now?

TheChosenTwo · 25/04/2024 18:07

Ps I forgot to add the most important thing which is that there isn’t a single job I would do for £11.60 p/h.

Sooooootired01 · 25/04/2024 18:08

@TheChosenTwo Both. No other support staff in the (huge) school would ever be asked to do what I'm doing here.

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Sirzy · 25/04/2024 18:08

£11.60 for a HLTA is shocking. that’s only 16p above minimum wage isn’t it? So you can’t be on Much more than TAs?

our welfare staff are on £12 an hour since 1st April

Sooooootired01 · 25/04/2024 18:08

@TheChosenTwo I have to pay the rent somehow!

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marshmallowfinder · 25/04/2024 18:09

TheChosenTwo · 25/04/2024 18:07

Ps I forgot to add the most important thing which is that there isn’t a single job I would do for £11.60 p/h.

Well aren't you lucky. Some of us have to make do with £11.50 per hour.

Ilikewinter · 25/04/2024 18:09

If your not happy just dont do it ??

marshmallowfinder · 25/04/2024 18:10

I think it's extremely low for what you do, OP.

Sooooootired01 · 25/04/2024 18:10

@Sirzy Yes. And of course nobody TA'ing actually gets even a minimum wage due to the hours of work.

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Sooooootired01 · 25/04/2024 18:10

@Ilikewinter Who pays my rent?

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NewPinkJacket · 25/04/2024 18:11

Ilikewinter · 25/04/2024 18:09

If your not happy just dont do it ??

This ^^

They can't force you to act as a teacher and not pay you the same as a teacher.

My friend is a union rep and she represents TAs all the time who are expected to do this.

takemeawayagain · 25/04/2024 18:12

This was why I gave up TAing, I was expected to teach on a pittance wage.

Sooooootired01 · 25/04/2024 18:12

@NewPinkJacket They say not teacher rate as lessons already planned by the year group staffing team.

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AmaryllisChorus · 25/04/2024 18:12

The lowest supply teaching rate per day is £186 which is around £20ph assuming a 9 hour day or just over £23ph for an 8 hour day.

You should absolutely be properly compensated for this. Talk to the head. Talk to the governors and the union. Teachers are already so undervalued. The very least a school can do is treat its existing staff with fairness and respect.

notthatperson · 25/04/2024 18:13

TheChosenTwo · 25/04/2024 18:07

Ps I forgot to add the most important thing which is that there isn’t a single job I would do for £11.60 p/h.

No need to look down on people

Sooooootired01 · 25/04/2024 18:14

@AmaryllisChorus Thank you. I have spoken to head. 20 years I've been qualified but feel so close to resigning tomorrow. Union say it is OK because I'm not planning.

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Sooooootired01 · 25/04/2024 18:16

@AmaryllisChorus How is a teaching day 9 hours paid?

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Bobbybobbins · 25/04/2024 18:17

This is ridiculous OP. I'm a teacher and really cross for you. Planning lessons imo is the easy bit- it's the delivery, managing behaviour etc that is key!

OMGitsnotgood · 25/04/2024 18:18

I think the people responsible for setting TA's wages have no idea what they do these days.
Pay would have been acceptable back in the days when classroom assistants were generally Mums with children in the school, who wanted a job that fitted around school hours/holidays etc. Now many are qualified, I've seen the work they're expected to do for their qualifications (best friend's DD is a TA) and I know what she does is way beyond what people generally realise TAs do now. The pay is shocking, I believe they don't get paid for all the holidays either - which would be fair enough if they had a decent salary when they are working

Sooooootired01 · 25/04/2024 18:18

@Bobbybobbins Thank.you. It is hard work as also lots of SEN need and children with EHCP.

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0verandoveragain · 25/04/2024 18:21

TheChosenTwo · 25/04/2024 18:07

Ps I forgot to add the most important thing which is that there isn’t a single job I would do for £11.60 p/h.

It's not the most important thing though is it? Because absolutely no one at all, not one person, on this forum gives a shit that you are stuck up and clearly think very highly of yourself.

NewPinkJacket · 25/04/2024 18:22

Sooooootired01 · 25/04/2024 18:12

@NewPinkJacket They say not teacher rate as lessons already planned by the year group staffing team.

Yes but they can't force you to do a teacher's job.

pinkwaterbottle9 · 25/04/2024 18:23

@TheChosenTwo everyone on band 2 in the NHS are on £11.45 p/h non stop dealing with immense pressure and toxic work environment and they wonder why people are leaving. Some of us have no choice and these jobs need to be done.

Sooooootired01 · 25/04/2024 18:24

@NewPinkJacket It now comes under the remit of any TA or HLTA to cover full classes.

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