70s bush envy

[Sparklybutold]

Is it just me or does anyone else have bush envy? Yes I mean pubic hair bush. I swear I have alopecia down there. I would love a big soft bush. Apparently you can get a bush wig which I'd seriously consider.

(Dear Aston University - stick that in your pipe)

I think like many have said on here is all comes down to personal preference, there are numerous different reasons why someone would want to keep it, or trim it, or shave it off. Personally I like keeping it natural but I understand that may put some people off, but it’s my body and also is what my body naturally does. I’m a pretty open person and I like that about myself

Then don't strip and have what you want. Who gives a flying fox about fashion?

Oh fuck off idiot! 🤣🤣So I've to agree with you then? Its my opinion, I'm allowed it. Away and critically think about that.

It is!
The rejection of short is properly "in" at the minute so get the Schwarzkopf out 😄

It's really not just down to personal choice, if a woman is dating and knows that 90% of the women her age look a particular way then there is pressure for her to conform. In the same way our hairstyles are to an extent personal choice but are massively influenced by current styles and expectations (compare your schools class photo to how the girls at your local school now wear their hair!)

It may not seem like it is, but it is. We make our own pressures in our head, if a woman wants to have hair, but the guy she is seeing does’t like it, then it’s her choice to either adapt, or keep it. I would say to a guy he can do one if he doesn’t like it lol. And same with vice versa

Well ok it's choice but we don't make our choices in a vacuum we are influenced by the times we live in. If influence wasn't a thing then advertising would not be an industry, never mind bloody insta influencers.

I believe the thinking is that a bush helps prevent bacteria getting into the vagina and causing problems. Think of it as a muffbrow. Not sure what research has been done to confirm. No greater feeling than running your fingers through a lady's hair (in my opinion)

Agreed, something about trying to stop womanhood in there I think!

That's true. I bought my Renault Clio because Thierry Henry was on the advert. We're all influenced by what we see and hear around us.

What's not on though is the perpetual and utterly moronic statements about women looking like/wanting to look like, young girls. It's said by women to other women and it's despicable. Often their partners' inane comments are brought it for emphasis. Quite frankly, if my partner would make comments about any woman looking like a prepubescent girl then I'd be gone.

Paedophiles are a 'thing'. Some men do look at images of young girls and there's an industry around that. They don't all get caught. But all this faux 'my Nigel would NEVER want me without hair' is just posturing, they'd not necessarily ever know until there's a knock at the door.

I don't give a fig what any man thinks and mostly, I don't care what women think either, certainly not about this, but it matters that women's choices (and they are choices, whatever the reason for them), are being pilloried along with some fairly disgusting comments about 'young girls'. I won't tolerate that, nobody should.

I once went nude down there and my DH didn’t go near me for months, citing it as ‚creepy af to be hairless done there and expect a shag.‘

I‘m now a fully fledged fan of the large fluffy bush and wear mine with pride. You have my sympathy OP!

I grew mine too long and it would get trapped in my big pants knicker elastic. 😩

I don't wax down there, just keep it trimmed. I used to remove it all but there are drawbacks.

I find it strange that you think anyone gives a shit what your ex boyfriend thinks.

Defensive much?

It may not seem like it is, but it is. We make our own pressures in our head

I don’t agree. When words like ‘grim’, ‘unhygienic’ and ‘dirty’ are routinely used about pubic hair, along with the claim that women who leave theirs be aren’t ‘taking care’ of themselves, you cannot claim that the pressure comes from inside our own heads.

(For clarity: I’m not saying all of those words have been used on this thread but I have seen and heard them used in the real world to describe pubic hair)

Yes and I've seen comments from PP saying that they like to be 'bare and clean'. It's insinuating that you're not clean if you're not bare. Very disrespectful to those who have don't remove all their pubic hair.
I just don't understand why there's all this arguing on this thread. Just do what YOU WANT and ignore what others expect you to do.
As long as you have washed regularly you are all CLEAN.

When words like ‘grim’, ‘unhygienic’ and ‘dirty’ are routinely used about pubic hair, along with the claim that women who leave theirs be aren’t ‘taking care’ of themselves, you cannot claim that the pressure comes from inside our own heads.

I agree with this, it seems to come from 'the ether' with nobody taking responsibility for it but at the same time, it's accepted by many as a 'truism' when it's not, it's personal thought translated into opinion and shared.

I vehement disagree that leaving your pubic hair makes any woman, 'grim', 'unhygienic' or 'dirty' and I think it's a vile and frankly stupid thing to say. It's also hurtful and harmful - and spread around. I wish the first poster who commented about pubic hair being 'grim' hadn't said it because it's set the tone.

From this thread it's become a clear 'them and us' scenario with each 'side' pitting against the other That's pathetic. What does it matter why any woman wants to keep or remove her pubic hair? It's absolutely a private choice and it should be left at that. Telling a woman who removes her hair because she feels cleaner that she's wrong isn't going to make her reconsider. I agree that it's not equal from the other side as telling a woman who keeps her private hair that she's 'grim' is a vile thing to say and it's not the same.

Why though do we need to get into it at all? Women have always done what they want with their pubic hair, they shouldn't need to explain or 'find a tribe'. We all have this hair, some of us like it, some don't and remove it. Great. None of it needs judgement and certainly not from other women. Live and let live.

Totally agree @LyingWitchInTheWardrobe that those early posts in which pubic hair was declared grim/not taking care of oneself really set the tone for the thread. Those posts understandably upset and offended many of those who don’t trim/shave. It feels shaming, and when people have been shamed they can be very defensive and rather spiteful in return.

Personally I don’t care what other women do with their twats, as long as they are not being pressured by a partner and as long as they don’t attempt to shame me for having normal body hair.

Amen to that, Waitingfordoggo.

@Sparklybutold I’m particularly interested as to whether Aston University have been discriminating against big bushes?

I met DH when he was 26 and I was 24 and I was the first woman he's ever been with who had a bush. I found that really sad.

I did try removing it when I was late teen/early 20s but it made the skin so sore and spotty. Basically every hair became ingrown. It was so sore just wearing knickers let along letting anyone touch me down there or wiping.

I now wax the bikini line but only when needed.

Sadly it's not a glorious bush but tis soft and bouncy

I am very interested to know -

1. How do you respond to your dd's pubic hair when it first appears and they ask you about it? What do you say to them about it?

2. What age do you take them for it to be removed and by what method?

These are the two questions that take this out of personal choice and into education of younger women by older women.

Can they decide for themselves what to do when they're older?

My daughter is approaching puberty and I've had this conversation with her. I've never been given positive body image messages myself so have made sure that her message is not the same. She's been told that her body, just as it is, is perfect, that nothing needs to be added or removed. She's aware that I have my body waxed, she's pain-averse and whilst she accepts that I do it, she knows that it's completely my decision and that she is free to make her own, she's beautiful and perfect as she is.

If she wanted to remove her hair then I'd probably suggest depilation or shaving as both are non permanent and not painful. If she wanted to consider waxing at some point then that's fine too.

I'm fair so my hair is quite light. Hers is also. Perhaps that is a factor for many women who choose to remove it?

Overarching message is nothing that her body is or produces is in any way 'wrong' and that there's nothing that she ever needs to do to change it.

My daughter wanted a razor for her legs we didn’t really talk about pubes apart from that it’s part of puberty, everyone gets them. Same as armpit hair. She did ask me to wax her legs once before the shaving and decided it hurt too much so I doubt she will try that again in a hurry.

She does her legs every so often, her armpits maybe every 4/5 months and frankly her pubes are hers to do with what she wishes and are of no concern to me.

If she asked my opinion on it I’d say it’s personal preference. Bit like how she hates pads and tampons and love her period pants while others hate them.