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Do you send failing asd kid to private school?

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Pippy2022 · 24/04/2024 09:33

Have a little dilemma. I can only afford private school for one kid.

Do you send the non-academic (1-2 yrs behind), dyslexic, autistic child to a non-selective supportive private school (Y7+) so she has the 'best' possible start in life (IF private school let's her in....she is atrocious at any sort of tests). She is more straightforward and less overwhelmed than child no.2.

OR do you send next child who is also possibly autistic but is bright. This child may pass 11+ and go to a good grammar. However, this child is very emotional etc and would benefit from a smaller classroom.

Which would you choose?

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Pippy2022 · 24/04/2024 13:40

I actually have child no 2 registered with a private as that was my initial plan as she has 'the most potential' but now I'm visiting state secondary schools and I'm thinking child no 1 has no chance of doing well, as her primary years are showing. The private route will mean I've tried everything. I don't want to have regrets when they reach 18.

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Octavia64 · 24/04/2024 13:48

Pippy2022 · 24/04/2024 13:03

I've just been on the phone to an Ed Psychologist who says it doesn't sound like she (no 1) meets the criteria for an ehcp and they are very hard to obtain....

An EHCP may or may not be the right route to take. You need to decide that yourself.

However as many local authorities are running out of money they are trying to discourage parents from applying for EHCPs.

schoolsweek.co.uk/councils-do-have-targets-to-ration-ehcps/

There is a brief guide to the process here:

www.simpsonmillar.co.uk/education-law-solicitors/ehcp-appeal/what-does-an-ehcp-entitle-you-to/#:~:text=An%20EHCP%20identifies%20your%20child's,EHCP%20must%20be%20properly%20funded.

tobee · 24/04/2024 13:51

Some private schools say they have SEN help but when it comes to it the SEN help is an added fee.

Peonies12 · 24/04/2024 13:52

CanaryCanary · 24/04/2024 09:39

Save your money and spend it on tutors, occupational therapists etc as needed by both of them.

Do this. You are setting up for all sorts of issues only sending 1 to private school. And private schools aren’t necessarily any better for Sen, in fact it could be really pushy and lots of high achieving kids

Moveoverdarlin · 24/04/2024 13:53

I would send both or neither.

tobee · 24/04/2024 13:56

tobee · 24/04/2024 13:51

Some private schools say they have SEN help but when it comes to it the SEN help is an added fee.

To clarify, one of mine had non diagnosed adhd and asd but diagnosed other issues (processing speed, executive function etc) and SEN help was included.

Other child in other school had an echp plan before secondary and the SEN provided cost extra.

Both schools said they provided SEN help but I'd make sure you find out the specifics.

oberst · 24/04/2024 14:06

My son has been in private school since year 1-2. He has adhd. It has been the best decision I have made for him. His senior school now (he started year 7 in sept) have been amazing.

We have a daughter who starts school next year and we probably won't send her if she's getting along okay at our local primary (different to my son's primary).

But we may decide to send her to my son's school for seniors.

Labraradabrador · 24/04/2024 14:08

Pippy2022 · 24/04/2024 13:03

I've just been on the phone to an Ed Psychologist who says it doesn't sound like she (no 1) meets the criteria for an ehcp and they are very hard to obtain....

Find a good local Sen support group so you can get the lay of the land in your area and maybe also some good recommendations for people who can help. So much of this can vary based on your locality - it is a real postcode lottery. I know a few people who have used educational access consultants / advisors to help them navigate the EHCP process (having been initially told they wouldn’t be successful) and in addition to saving lots of time, in both instances they had a successful outcome. It is still a LONG process, but one you might want to pursue regardless of whether dc moves to private.

Caravaggiouch · 24/04/2024 17:56

There’s private school and private school. None of the private schools where I live (bar, perhaps, one) are somewhere I’d send a child with any kind of SEN. Being in a class of 25 rather than 30 might sound good but if that’s a class of 25 overconfident, sporty, high achievers? But if you’re talking about somewhere small and nurturing with a reputation for being good for children who are lower achievers then that might be good. It also might not be that the state school is “letting” your child “fall behind” but that the results they’re getting reflect what they are capable of.

Caravaggiouch · 24/04/2024 18:00

And actually, if you’re in a grammar area, I’d probably invest the money in moving somewhere else. Otherwise it sounds like the choices for your other child who might not thrive in grammar won’t be great.

Checkandbalenance · 24/04/2024 18:07

Oh God the Kent Test. I really cannot fathom why that system still exists there.

Saracen · 26/04/2024 00:20

Both of your children sound like they could be well suited to home education. Is that something you'd consider?

Buttons232 · 28/04/2024 06:47

I sent my dyslexic daughter to private school in Year 4 and pulled her out, with no where else to go in Year 7. I have two others that have always been in state.

I personally don’t think there’s an issue with sending one if it’s the right school for them and that’s what they need. It’s not fair, but then neither is dyslexia or any other diagnosis that makes them a square peg in a round hole.

However, I do think you should guard yourself against seeing private schools as inherently nicer, more supportive places than state schools. Often they really aren’t, they’re just very good at marketing themselves. Also, fees will increase. Be prepared for that. My daughters school stayed off at 12,000 a year. It’s now £18,500.

In year 7 when my daughter moved from the prep school, she was drawn into a very unhealthy relationship with a girl who encouraged her to view pro anorexia / self harming content on social media. She almost groomed her into it, this girl destroyed her relationships with everyone else and then completely cut her off so she was totally isolated. The school’s response was to allow her to sit crying in a classroom every break and dinner time, rather than cry in the toilet. The head of year told her that she needed to make up with this girl and try and fit in. When they’d done literally F/A and she started self harming by taking a pencil sharpener apart and cutting herself with the blade, I was told this wasn’t a safeguarding concern. There were reams and reams off WhatsApp conversations and social media content that showed exactly what was happening and they couldn’t have cared less. I suspect it was because the other girl was one of three siblings and that I was only paying 1 set of fees. This is how it came across. They didn’t speak to the girl, talk to her parents etc etc . I pulled her out eventually giving a terms notice on the penultimate day of term, so I wouldn’t have to pay two terms worth. They went absolutely mad at me. I can’t tell you how awful their response was. I was told I was making a big fuss about nothing, despite the evidence I gave them and that they’d sue me if I didn’t pay the extra terms fees. I didn’t get upset or angry or give them any abuse I just said , no I can’t keep her there and they hung up on me! They could not have given less of a fuck about my daughter who at that point couldn’t go outside without having a panic attack. They were an all round school that prided themselves on their pastoral care and provision for children with dyslexia , ASD etc. My husband pursued a complaint against them. I just didn’t have the energy to do it at that point. I just wanted her out of there. It wasn’t about the money, we were totally prepared to pay a term’s fees but in the end they wiped these off, admitted fault rewrote their safeguarding policies and provided extra training for all staff etc.

My daughter chose a state school for her next school. She went to view two other private schools too but decided on that one. She was out of school for six weeks while we sorted another place. I was really apprehensive about her moving to state. It was a school that had a complete overhaul in recent years and had not got the best reputation. She’s been there for three years now and they’ve been bloody brilliant with her. The pastoral care is fantastic. She’s happy, she’s doing really well academically. She walked through the doors and became a totally different person. In addition, with the huge amount of money we’re no longer paying in school fees I’ve bought three horses/ ponies for her and her younger sister. I feel like the horses are far better value for money in terms of developing soft skills.

Sorry for the long post but I guess my point is don’t be drawn in by their glossy marketing and state of the art facilities. Try and see past the bluff and realise that ultimately they’re all businesses. Think what you could do if you spent the money indulging other interests and whether it’s the best value for money.

Mistredd · 28/04/2024 06:49

I don’t think I could do this. My autistic child and NT go to different schools but I don’t think I would pay for one and not the other. It’s just conveying that you value one somehow.

Hucklescar · 28/04/2024 06:59

I work in a private school and believe me, they are shockingly bad for any type of SEN.
I really don’t think you’ll be able to see quite how lacking they are until you’re a good few years in and your child has been neglected and at times told off for their behaviours linked to to ASD.

Nappyvalley15 · 28/04/2024 07:21

If you have done your research and feel that the private school would be good with SEN then trust that research. Only you know the particular private school you are thinking of and they may well be very good with SEN.

If I thought the younger child could pass the 11+ without stressful hothousing, then I would put the older child in the private school and let the younger try for grammar. However I would be prepared to remortgage to move the younger child to the private school if their secondary option was unsuitable.

I also think it will be hard to get an EHCP for either child.

Labraradabrador · 28/04/2024 11:25

Hucklescar · 28/04/2024 06:59

I work in a private school and believe me, they are shockingly bad for any type of SEN.
I really don’t think you’ll be able to see quite how lacking they are until you’re a good few years in and your child has been neglected and at times told off for their behaviours linked to to ASD.

You have experience with one private school, you can’t really extrapolate to the entire private sector. There is an active thread at the moment where a frustrated mother is describing the exact situation you do, but it’s a state school.

jeaux90 · 29/04/2024 16:42

The private school my DD15 goes to is fabulous for SEN

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